Question to old hippies about LSD, especially if you've read Leary

Hi all;
I don't get this way very often anymore but I would like to add my thoughts to this question. Acid? Like Robert Crumb said "I would not recommend it to anyone but it certainly worked for me." Well not absolutely true in my case-I did have a handfull of trips that were jolting, life changing and intensely spiritual experiences. The rest were just party tripping, ho hums, and a couple out and out bummers. Mistakes I made were;
A. Mistaking acid for a party drug-it is not. There are plenty of good party drugs out there my favorites being hashish and liquor.
B. Not watching quality at first-there were some real bathtub brews out there. After a time I would not Do anything that did not come highly recommended for people who's word I trusted. Even the good stuff takes a lot out of the physical plant and unless you want to end up totally out of touch with this all too real physical world you had best limit your trippings. I finally came to a place where I would touch nothing that came out of a laboratory and have remained there ever since.
C. Hanging with the WRONG people on a few trips.
D. Not watching the "eating sleeping exercise" thing when I was off exploring but what the hey-I was young!
E. Mixing with other goodies-acid and opiates are the absolute worst and potentially lethal.
F. Walking around nasty neighborhoods while tripping. It's not recommended to deal with cops and hustlers and the like while in the zone.
G. I am sure there are more...
Anyhow! It was not a long period of my life but it was certainly the most intense. Of course the day was intense enough as it was! I have felt this sense of mission ever since though I cannot ever say for sure just what the mission is... just to hang out and kind of hint to people that there is more to it all than the 9-5 meatball realities? Possible...
Tundrahopper

 

open duh door 2 deniell.

 

What's that mean Only?

 

How the hell would he know? EVERY post he makes is depressingly stunning in its absolute inanity. Just to see his ridiculous avatar ruins my day.


This is the downside of free speech.

 

I think someone should take this guy and duck tape him to a tree for a day in front of a full length mirror and feed him a ten strip!

 

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V​

 

Carefully chosen words create reality, as we chose/use them, they bind us to this 4-d duality we all share and learn within or without. For that matter, OnlyOne chooses to learn the hard way, if at all.

LSD is a wonderful tool, used in the proper set and setting. There's always a time and place for its use I feel, no matter how old you are, of course with proper guidance for the younger ones.

Albert Hoffman in fact used LSD last when he turned 97. Isn’t it amazing he discovered it about the same time the bomb was created? There’s a message here indeed.

Isn’t it a shame that LSD is marketed to kids who haven't realized the power of language as yet and miss use it unknowingly?

It seems Fads, gangs, clicks, cultures, races, communities etc... Emotional brainwashing like that is that what is taught in this world. Not how to use language to create one harmonious world.

Psychedelics seem to open ones eyes to this. I believe that cocaine, heroin, Meth, has been used as a weapon to counter the LSD movement, and negative media seems to attract the attention of most people witch may be the reason why people really don't see that there being subtly trained to think and react the way we/they do.

Words have the ability to attract or repel and have built our reality as we see it. God surly did not create every thing we have built!

The slow evolution over time is how it works; the elements merging together, chemicals created over the eons, then we evolved from the slime. Our societies have been visualized by us and actualized into reality by others.

Psychedelics and the modern monetary greed driven world don't work together for those who are keeping you blind to it.

There’s a sickness called control that may be rampant in this world.

It seem that the negative and positive forces that make up the universe is a natural occurrence we just need to learn how to use it in a harmonious matter, so to build a sharing and caring world!
Peace love and reality

 

Easy fellas, maybe Only knows something; have you seen his pictures, they deffinately have a connection to India. I'd like to hear what you have to say Only, maybe denial really is staring me in the face and I don't know it.
Thanks Sunshine, I think it's a shame how the drugs of modern day have merged into the popularity role and now just bring people down. I've been reading this book called "Acid Dreams" and I'm to the part now where it's talking about John Lennon having dosed over thousand times, searching for this complete ego loss Leary talks about in the Tibetan Book of the Dead, having completely blown his mind in ego terms and then he asks, "Now What" What is there ever to do once you graduate from acid, that's a big question for me right now. Sometimes I think the only thing to do now is to give love to everyone, be in love, raise my children to know that love's all that matters and to have fun, any fun I can imagine. What's do yall think, what happens when you graduate from acid, maybe yoga, more meditation, living in nature, having friends, a movement.
Peace

 

What's after acid.. good question.. A lot of the Old Ones say that the only thing left is death
For me and that's all I can speak for. Was learning all the things that I didn't know that will be needed for when the change comes.
I took my gifts that I was born with ( we all have them ) and exentuated on them. I studied and came to know them inside out. It was what I loved to do and it came naturaly so I there-by decided that thoes we my gifts.
I believe that we have these gifts to use when it is time, when we are needed. Knowledge is the Ultimate Key to understanding, without it we have only part of the intelect. LSD opened many doors and windows for so many bright minds..
OSV was right about the counter-effects of hard drugs.. counter-productive to our counter-culture.
Peace, Love and Unity is the way to live and the way to teach your children to live.
I have only one comment for only.. and that's, no comment..
BTW I am learning not to FEED the Trolls.
Brightest Blessings
sh

 

Shameless and George;
After acid? Well me and that group I "did" with mostly just picked up and got on with our lives. Some of them didn't seemed to have learned a thing from all that but some of them certainly did. I guess I don't see acid as having made a difference in where I ended up and what I ended up doing (destiny is destiny I suppose). It did make a difference in how I did it!
haha,
tundrahopper

 

great post man, I do not think the younger generations of today will ever reach the state of conscious that LSD can bring. I know for me LSD really changed my goals in life in a positive way. I also worked out ways of acheiving my goals.

 

Beck,
I cannot recommend anything manufactured in a laboratory-period. What I can endorse from the old days was Southeast Asian marijuana and some of the fine hashish we found.I was smoking some fine maryjane with my son about a year ago and it was well...unbalanced and too heavy on the THC recipe. Now the really good marijuanas and hashish recipes were developed over the course of generations in villages in places like Afghanistan, Turkey and Thailand. Back in my drug dealing days I used to relentlessly hunt these finest of the fines, and was actually told to leave a party down in Albuquerque one time as there were gunmen coming to rob me of some Nepalese. I guess they liked Nepalese!
Tundrahopper

 

i have only just joined this thread and only just read a few of your comments
i did a lot of acid in my teens and also mushrooms
when i say a lot i mean heaps
i did some of my most creative works while on the stuff
but i do not encourage use of hallucagens
i suffered 10 years from 30 to 40 with severe anxiety and phobias which i attribute to my vast drug use mainly the hallucagens
no one wants to go thgrough what i ave suffered with mewntal turmoil
i have 7 kids and instill upon them the horrors to follow theese drugs

 

sens,
We used to call it "burnout." and I had a few month period in the Fall of 1970 when I was barely functional. There's no evidence that psychedelics cause any serious brain damage but it does seem to cause... well a redordering. And some profound psychic exhaustion. So I stumbled around in a haze for a time feeling like I was three years old. After a while I started coming around but others were not so lucky. I did not do anything that came from a laboratory after that time in the abyss.
Tundrahopper

 

Well George, the only worthy thing I can say to you is follow your heart and realize your dreams.

I was too young for the 60's, so I am a child of the 70's. As a young man I was heavily into Carlos Castaneda and the 'man of knowledge' and 'warrior' concepts. I stepped off that path into the rat race and here I am wasting my life on the internet.

 

Acid was by far my favorite experience. The thing with acid is that it's not for everyone, but there's no litmus test to figure out if you're right or wrong for it. I'd suggest that it's for those with a firm grip on reality, and prone to straight line thinking. Those folks are probably better mentally prepared for the experience, and it will help break down some walls.


Clearly if you've got psychological issues of any sort it's not a good idea. Or if your subject to things like fear or insecurity it could well push those issues over the top.

For me it permanently altered the way I look at things. Wow - talk about thinking "outside the box!" It helped me understand that even the reality we cling so tightly to may even be an illusion. Who's to say that everything I see around me, people, places things, etc., are not just products of my own mind. It surely lessened my fears about a lot of things.

 

I started dropping Owsley acid in 66'-very-very colorful-San Francisco was a big fun Disneyland and we laughed and giggled and our eyeballs were huge and black and the trip was allnight long-The windows melted-the streets were heaving up and down and over at the Avalon; Janis and Big Brother were makin some very loud beautiful noise-Blue Cheer was real loud-many decibals -a 30 mile an hour wind comin off that stage-!-High volumne-high dosage and high-happy times-wow-Thanks God ;for allowing me to make it so far-what a long strange trip it's been-and well worth the price of admission-If you want to do it-be careful and be out in the country with people you trust-good luck-

 

Great post Maggie-You said it all-Some folks just never got it-

 

Real good list Tundra and very accurate-with the real Owsley; the trip was always much better if I was with friends or lovers and not in the city-the city is just not that condusive to having a pleasent journey--I had way too much of it for too long-but had very few bad trips-with acid trips-location is very important-as any paranoia-stress' worry or yelling ' screaming or any other violent behavior is a sure way to ruin the trip-ideal situation is on 500 hundred acres of free commune land with mellow people-with guitars and flutes and congas-no drunks or loud idiots-After moving north to Oregon in 73'-I started eating lots of local grown-(backyard) mushrooms-real nice!