JESUS God or Prophet?! Well, if Jesus is god why he doesnt know when will doomsday be? He said in (Mathew 24:36): "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the son, but only the father." I think that god should know everything in the world, the past, the present and the future, right? In this statement he assured that even the Holy Spirit doesnt know about the day! So both Jesus and the HS arent complete, so how they should be considered as gods?! ************ In (Mathew 12:18): "Here is my servant whom I have chosen,..." Is it reasonable that god call another god "my servant"?! Choosing this particular word indicates that God doesnt consider Jesus as an equal god or even a son, but rather a human servant. Besides, even if J. was called son of god in the Gospels, this doesnt make him necessarily a god because Jacob or Israel was called son of god too in the Bible. Plz read (Exodus 4:22): "Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn." King David was called son of god too in the Bible: (psalm 2:7) Solomon too: (II Sam. 7:13-14) Even Ephraim: (Jermiah 31:9) Common People: (Deut. 14:1); (Romans 8:29); (Mathew 5:45-48); and (II Connthians 6:18) So to be called son of god in the Bible this doesnt prove that J. is a god. ********* In (Luke 13:33) Jesus himself said: " I must keep going today and tomorrow and the next day - for surely no "PROPHET" can die outside Jeusalem." Jesus called himself a prophet and he never called himself a god. Can you give me just one text from the Bible in which J. said frankly that he is god or asked his followers to worship him? Jesus told you that he is a prophet, do you believe him? He also told you that there is only ONE TRUE God, do you believe him? In (John 17:3) J. declared the truth: "...that they may know You, THE ONLY TRUE God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." He didnt say that they may know the trinity or may know us, or any indication to multiple gods. He only mentioned God as the only true one, what more? If this is what J. said, do you believe him? ************* And when he talked about himself, he considered himself as a prophet who was sent from God, not a a god who has a freewill to do what he likes. He said in (John 8:26-29): ".... But He Who sent me is Reliable, and what i have heard from Him I tell the world ... and that i do nothing on my own but speak just what the father has taught me. The One Who sent me is with me, He has not left me alone, for i always do what pleases Him." I think that if you thought deeply in this quote you will find the truth by yourself, but i will try to help u. From this quote we can conclude that J. doesnt have a freewill to say to the people what he wants, but rather what God wants him to say. And this is the mission of prophets: "to convey God's message to the world". That's why he used to say "who sent me", gods dont send each other, God sends humans or angels or any of His creatures. As in the quote mentioned above, Jesus affirmed that he did nothing on his own but spoke JUST what God taught him. I think that this sentence tells everything, J. couldnt say a word on his own but only what God taught him. Even the word "taught" that Jesus used has many implications, god doesnt need to be taught, he should know everything. Who needs to be taught? Humans or creatures in general. God teaches not be taught. If you applied God's characteristics on Jesus and applied them on J., the notion of divinity wont be applicable on him. Instead Humans' characteristics could be easily applied on him. So J. is a human prophet not a god. Or what do you think?
He is both. It's simply understood that Jesus is the son of God, born of a mortal women, but without an earthly father. Thus making him kind of like Hercules, except a real person. He's also a prophet, since he gained revelation from God, told the future (i.e. his ressurection). He's the mouthpiece for God, thus making him a prophet.
By giving Jesus the status of God it gives those who would, a way out of truly trying to lead a life like Jesus. They might say, "We are just mortals, we can not lead a life like he preached." Yet conditions in the world make it self evident that mankind must indeed, follow the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule if anger and hate is to be decreased, and self destruction avoided. This includes the anger and hate behind Islamic Jihad theology.
Well put Dan. I'm constantly amazed at how many people who claim the bible is the word of God display such ignorance about what it actually says. It's as if they're saying, "If I diefy Jesus I can ignore what he said. If I diefy this book that excuses me from reading it".
The supposed Jesus only became a "god" when Roman Emperor Constantine formulated the Nicean Creed which commences with the phrase "we believe...." and most notably does not say "we know....." A cursory check of Constantine reveals a murderous insanity typical of Caesars, and that tells you all you need to know about those who created the christian religion, it's texts, and all that they choose to believe. BTW ~ I think you should write in size 2 font.
If you understood the God of the Bible you would understand He exists as three persons, and each of those persons have a different funtion. And you have your first glimpse of God in the first Book of the Old Testament when God states, let US make man in Our image. God did not speak of Himself a single being.
