Would you cure Conservative Christianity if it becomes available?

So, I stepped into the 'Gay' forums this morning only to find the first post titled,

Would you 'Cure' Homosexuality if it becomes Available?
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136506

How sweet, a well-meaning, filled to the brim with Gods love conservative has proposed the question to these poor pillow biters that if they could cure their awful affliction would they do it?

Out of my admiration for such kind-hearted, non-prejudiced thinking I have gone out of my way to find a solution for the terrible 'disease' that is Conservative Christianity:


Communists - With Guns
Are you down in the dumps, giving 10% to the church and getting nothing back, got Jesus on your back? Do you wish to free yourself from the desire to bible bash the holy hell out of every living thing that doesn't agree with you?

What would you say if chao lung came around your house today? burnt your bibles, interrogated you and confiscated every bit of religious paraphernalia from your household, would you let him? Its the perfect cure

or if thats too much for you why don't you just stay a Christian and start thinking about unconditional love? Oh, and chuck in a little empathy (you know, that little nagging feeling you get sometimes that might threaten your ability to discriminate..don't be scared, its very HUMAN), and throw in some thinking too...God gave you the bible, but he gave you a brain too, i suggest you use both.

PEACE

 

hahahahahaha wait for the backlash to that one

 

If there was a backlash it would be more fun. Sadly a majority of the christians on this site have their mental health and their attitudes in check. Its the one man army you have to worry about, i wont name names.

 

CURE THE CHRISTIANS!

Especially if the "cure" came in potion form.

I believe in LIBERATING minds!

 

Yes, I was thinking along the lines of well armed oppression, but a potion would probably be a much more humane idea

 

yes the cure for conservatism- any type religious/political etc. IS LIVING!!!
LIVING IS LIBERATING THE MIND
Experiencing now and the beauty of every experience and interaction.
Without diversity of ideas and beliefs HOW IN THE HELL ARE WE GONNA LEARN ANYTHING??????????????

The simplicity is so astounding, I cant even see how there are even people who cant see this-christian or otherwise.

 

Unfortunately most Christians don't use their brain like the good Lord intended.


GW is a perfect example. Then again methinks the Lord skipped ol' GW when He was handing out brains.



Him: I'm a Conservative Christian Republican.

Me: Good for you. Admission is the first step to recovery.

 

That's brilliant.


I love christians.
It's idiots (no matter what they are) I have a problem with.

 

I supoose the question is whether fundies are deceived, sick, or both.
IMHO the deception has led to illness in the same way that anyone who is constantly lied to becomes unstable in the least and loopy at the most. Tortured minds can be healed, but only after accepting the need for healing, and constancy of pain leads invariably in that direction (don't we all know it!)
Google ex-christian
or http://www.users.bigpond.com/pmurray/exchristian/

 

Hush my child, its the idiots that need our help the most.

 

Yes i do, Erasmus is openly a Christian. He is well known in these parts.

 

Thast just being nice...I don't care if the post is religous in nature or not, the guy was being flat out ignorant so I used satire to turn the argument on his head.

 

There is nothing 'Ignorant' at all about posing the hypothetical question and duly note 'Cure' was ''ed.

One of the reasons this thread doesnt work as any sort of 'turnabout' is that there are different premises going on.
In the homosexual gene hypothesis, we based this on an assumption being made by many gays (and what seem to be 'official' spokespersons belief) that homosexuals are 'born gay' and while they may not have a vagina, they simply 'must' have gay sex as its 'genetically' instructed.
Ok.
So if that is the case (and maybe it is according to you) then advances in the human genome project, gene therapy just might find such a 'gay gene' and possibly a way to remove/neautralise it.

Nobody contends Christians are 'born Christians' and just cant help but follow Jesus because something in their physiology is just 'making them do it'.
Christians would contend we are born with 'inherint sin' in our nature and there is not going to be a 'sin gene' that we can speculate on finding and repairing (even though we do find flaws in physical persons).

So while it 'sounds like a gotcha' to someone with a narrow-minded simpleton view of 'this makes me feel bad..duhhh... so I will say reverse duhhhh' - it really doesnt work as a turnabout.

 

One word man...
Conditioning.

The cure...
Un-conditioning
Who needs a gene for being religious when you can so easily be programmed?

By the way I have nothing against christianity- only people who mindlessly take on all they are taught and are too scared to formulate their own beliefs about God/life.
That goes for any person regardless of religion.

 

One thing to say man, get a brain, a sense of humour, and don't take yourself so seriously.

It doesn't matter if what i proposed was entirely scientifically inaccurate. What matters is that in both cases (my satire and your serious proposals) the ignorance is pretty comparable.

Get a clue, Conservative Christianity is more of a disease then Homosexuality, genetically inborn or not.

 

Damn straight

 

Im a bit different than most of these Christians you keep talking about. (your Highschoolers minds eye version).
I was into agnosticism, atheism, evolutionism and the whole list of them from the various 'cults' to the philosopher, theosophy and all that jazz.
I came about to Christianity after I decided to open my mind and think for myself in rational and logical ways, investigating the evidence and making judgements based on evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.

The whole thing is hilarious to me to see you people with nothing more than just asserting you are right because you are.
"I think for myself and you dont"
Thats all it is.
"I dont agree because im open minded and you are closedminded.. so I decree"
Ha
Bullshit.

You dont even know the freedom of mind you will experience when you finally realise that Naturalism is total and utter bullsheet and you stand in a Created and Recorded world.
I hope you are so 'open minded' and such a glorious 'free thinker' that you assert and 'announce' yourself to be because maybe one day you will arrive at that place.

The only 'downside' is that human nature dictates you feel such an embarrassment over your previous thinking that you can barely even admit you did once lol!
But its worth it.

 

Yes, it will seem more and more absurd or as 'foolishness' the further back you go.
Oddly enough, validating at least one claim the Bible makes.

 

Yes, very interesting. That post seems to provide evidence of intelligence and logical thinking.

Sadly, nothing you ever say can make up for the fact that you posted a thread in a forum for gay people that quite openly expresses your close minded views on homosexuality.

Its not a disease you stupid fuck.

Gay people fuck people of both genders, and both paries enjoy it......whereas you fuck everything that is right and good in humanity, including truth, tolerance and the right of an individual to choose his or her sexuality without being asked if they wanted to 'cure' it as if they had a life threatening disease.

Plenty of people in these forums give substantial evidence to back up their views. Either you don't pay any attention, or YOU dismiss our thinking as close minded, while you can freely rant and rave about theories that almost the entire world want to puke over while we sit back and listen because you are the one with freedom of mind... How modest you are

Lets also not forget the fact that a fair amount of people on this site choose not to give you credit or respect for many of your ideas because they quite clearly and obviously show a LACK OF UNDERSTANDING.

So, you wish to do us a favour in convincing us to abandon our beloved naturalist views in the hope that we will enjoy the same 'freedom of the mind' as you. I think many of us have been there Erasmus, and maybe we are wrong, but the fundamental truth that dragged me away from die-hard Christianity is that I realised there is a difference between 'freedom of thinking' and 'ease of thinking'. Its bloody easy to mistake the two. 'God is on his throne in Heaven. All is right with the world' How nice that must be for you. I will never bow down to such a primitive ideology. Nothing in my immediate surroundings shows any evidence of, nor does it justify the belief that it was created by a robed, all knowing, humanoid in the sky. Its beautiful and complex, it can be explained, but never fully, for having so much faith in one simplified belief system as well as your own judgement to decide such a thing for sure is bound to send you down the path of closed mind and inflated ego. Perhaps that is where you separate the 'knowers' from the 'thinkers'.

Ok enough preaching and plugging of my own spiritual beliefs as I might be in danger of becoming you. Now lets play a little exercise...you take some RESPONSIBILITY, how about it?

Now did you, or did you not imply in your thread that homosexuality is a disease that needs to be cured?

 

Wow. I just heard the sound of a Gasket Blowing!

I can assert that I have the right ideas because I am the one with an open mind.
You have a narrow mind.
I am 'for' thinking for oneself.
I am 'all about' challenging the way people tell me to think.
At least I am able to question authority and 'think for myself'.

Give me one good reason why that is not just as much for me to say than for you or say a Libertine?
I can just say that too.

See, you people dont think for yourselves and I do.
My positions are better simply because I assert I have special knowledge and you have limited knowledge.

Right?
I can just as easily assert that too.
Thnx.

P.S. The reason I dont get a lot of 'Credibility' in these forums (or too much?) is because a large percentage of Hipforums posters are morons.
Not all.
Many are Teens or young adults who have formulated opinions based on 'internet culture' ideologies and memes, stuff they were led to conclude 'by themselves' by leading college/high school teachers and at best, from 'The Daily Show' writers.
I mean, you cant really call a 19 year old a 'Moron' yet because so far they dont know any better.
Like I say, I actually thought Kierkergaard was a genius and was really onto something .. when I was 19.

But hey, I think Suicide is a bad idea.
Im against it.
So is that nefarious evil Christian Church and even those precious beautiful Buddhists say its bad too.
So, do I need to be 'for Suicide' in order to stop being so 'narrow minded' about Suicide or to stop 'being told its bad by some simple Bible telling me what to think' lol!

Anyways, I think the difference between me and you is probably just life experience.
Its not really that Im 'smarter' than anyone but I just lived long enough and through enough various things (enough times) that I just know better.
Even a Moron begins to know better after trying to ram a square peg though a round hole for enough years.
If not by proving it out through formula - they do by plain common sense.