Is good rock dieing?

Discussion in 'Music' started by Tanelorn, Feb 8, 2006.

  1. Tanelorn

    Tanelorn Member

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    30 or 40 years ago music was big, it meant the lives to alot of people and affected them in great ways. it still does today and alot of the new genereation (including myself) listen to pink floyd, led zep, hawkwind, yes, etc. and my friends agree they were great musicians. :sunglasse


    But most of the greats have stopped making music, or so many of their band members have left and changed that their sound doesnt have the same passion as it used to.

    Popular music (mostly RnB and Emo i think? :H ) is very poorly thought out - short, repeativing lyrics and rythyms with no real meaning except an attempt at gaining more money :$

    i think with the generation after mine, there will be less who remember the greats (as the LP's, get scrached aaway and the bands forgotten). the generation after that will remember even less.

    Are we going to lose good music for ever, are the days of GOOD, MEANINGFULL, and POWERFUL sounds soon to be gone or distorted into something corrupt?


    :rolleyes:
     
  2. TARABELLE

    TARABELLE on the road less traveled

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    I think there are modern bands that rock and write songs of "great social and political import". I don't know why they never get props. Bands like the Offspring or SOAD or Tool or NIN.
     
  3. dedhead95

    dedhead95 The Wizard of Rhythm

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    Rock is not dead...and it will never die..Listen to this...you'll learn

    THE HARD LESSONS!
     
  4. gurney

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    [font=&quot]Instead of complaining why don’t you start writing the kind of music you like [/font]
     
  5. DeadHead~

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    Good tunes may not be dead.
    However I don't know if we will ever see widespread GOOD music around again.
    Mainstream music is lame, 3:30 predictable shit. I think that may have to do with
    our culture not being as involved with music as it used to.

    I don't belive that it's coincidence that you see more kids wearing Dark Side t-shirts then Good Charlette right now.
     
  6. John221

    John221 Senior Member

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    I'm not sure whether good music is dying out, perhaps it is merely going underground for a while, while all of the manufactured, zombified crap gets to number one in the charts.

    I should also point out that 30 or 40 years ago, there was an awful lot of crap being made alongside the good stuff, just as there is today.

    But I think you may have a point if you said that an awful lot of bad popular music right now is making it more and more difficult to pick out the music that may actually carry some more important meanings.

    I'm personally happy that now, as opposed to ten years ago, we're starting to see a few "bands" who actually try to play instruments.

    Many of their attempts may not be very good, but to me it is at least a better form of "music" than an enhanced voice played over an irritating programmed beat on someone's synthesiser.

    Anyways, as for future generations forgetting the good music:

    When I have kids of my own, they're gonna hear some good old rock bands (the Floyd, Hendrix, Jefferson Airplane), plenty of classical, blues, jazz and traditional folk music. So just go ahead and beat that!
     
  7. MichaelByrd1967

    MichaelByrd1967 Garcia Wannabe

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    I plan to be as multifaceted with my children in the music department as possible, because I hope to be just as multifacted as a musician as possible. But I'm definitely not showing them anything to do with religion, because it's an evil institution. Music is what brings people together. So with music I hope to use that as a guide. Not the false guides that are shown to us with religion.
     
  8. KasabianRulesMan!

    KasabianRulesMan! Member

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    When i was a child my big brothers closed the doors, windows , close the light ...then in the total dark put the vinyl of my father like "Animals" and "Atom hearth mother" of the Floyd...and i was scared to death when i was 5... some parts of those album are scary & mysterious for a children...

    I will never do that with my children... but well some of the previous post said that you will make listen to your children some good music ...the music we like...
    but there's a lot young who listen rap right now who were with parents listenin' to rock n roll at home... so i don't know if it influence the future musical vision of your children...i hope so...
     
  9. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I agree with this. There's a lot of great rock music being made in these days as well. Bands that are heavily inspired by the sixties and seventies rock bands.
    I can't wait 'til the Roadburn festival again to see the combination of old rock and psych rock (Hawkwind, Leafhound) and the newer generation of these kind of bands (Colour Haze, Abramis Brama, Orange sunshine (heavily inspired by Blue Cheer) Gorilla, Solace, Ufomammut, Brant Bjork, Orange Goblin and so on). Of course this music has evolved as well and some of these bands are a lot louder but it's still rock and these bands are good. :)
     
  10. localhippy

    localhippy Senior Member

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    all i had to see was "led zep" didnt need to finish reading the rest
     
  11. Tanelorn

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    what do you meen by that? :H

    trust me, i've tried :) but as a not-so-good-yet-drumer whose mates all have different ideas of music it's hard :p
     
  12. MichaelByrd1967

    MichaelByrd1967 Garcia Wannabe

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    I'm in the process of doing that right now with my band. And I hope all you guys will dig it.
     
  13. Mind Gardens

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    You live in the UK, and you can't find decent music? [​IMG]

    Doesn't the UK always have an abundance of good music?
     
  14. HairyCarey

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    The UK has McFly...

    I love the way every new band with a number one is "BIGGER THAN THE BEATLES OMG!!!"
     
  15. nananie

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    good music never dies i guess
     
  16. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    The reason everything seemed good is cause you forget crap

    I agree, quit complaining, you just aren't trying hard enough...
     
  17. tomorrows_dream

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    I don't think the music around now is anywhere near as good as it was. I mean putting dance, hip-hop, rap and all that SHIT aside, the rock scene is really poor. And the bands that are pure and talented aren't the ones on the cover of Kerrang! or Rolling Stone. Also, rock has been so diluted into sub-genres, "pop-rock", "punk-rock", "rap-rock", "dance-rock", "urban rock" etc. Some people consider bands to be rock that i wouldn't have put in the "rock" bracket in a million years! For example, i was told just the other day that "Pink Floyd are kinda punk or glam-rock"!!! I mean what the fuck??

    But there is the odd talented rock band about these days. if you scratch the surface of "Aiden", "My Chemical Romance" and such like, you might just find some real ROCK!
     
  18. Spiral Sea

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    very true, everyone remembers the 10 or 20 top acts of the 60's and 70's and completely ignores the thousands of crappy artists that poluted the hit-parades during those decades.

    Brenda Lee for example wasn't any better than Britney Spears or Madonna and Cliff Richard or Del Shannon weren't better than Robbie Williams.

    I have no doubt that the quality acts of today will still be remembered in 40 years :) (though we might disagree about what quality acts are, your grandparents probably didn't care much for Led Zep or the Stones either)
     
  19. badwolf

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    I don't think so.

    Every decade has its fair share of garbage (ie. 1970s had The Village People, 1990's had that horrendous wave of lousy boybands like The Backstreet Boys and New Kids on the Block).

    If you look hard enough, you can find some amazingly talented bands and singers, who haven't made it onto the mainstream because they haven't got the "sound."
     
  20. Skin Is  My!

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    Umm, you're seventeen, so how would you know how music back then truly affected people in those days?

    I hate people who walk around claiming the only good music is from the 60's. If you actually knew anything about contemporary music and did some research, you'd know there's a lot of great music out there. The Mars Volta can play just as great as Led Zepplin could, if not better, and though he's not up to the level of Bob Dylan, Connor Oberst from Bright Eyes is a pretty fucking amazing writer, and he's only in his 20's. I'd even be brazan enough to say he has some songs that are better written than Bob Dylan's (Though less metaphorically.)

    Your word choice of "emo" being poorly though out offends me. Listen to Bloc Party, Damien Rice, Ted Leo and the Pharmacists, Sufjan Stevens, The Faint, Netural Milk Hotel, The Mars Volta, Bright Eyes and Songs Ohia and tell me if it's short, repeative lyrics and rythyms with no real meaning.

    The reason why music was so powerful back then, as you claim so adamantly, is because music like that had never been created. Music went from being jazz and fucking Buddy Holly to "Led Zepplin," and Pink Floyd (Which I consider the first electronica band.) You're comparing such a huge time/music gap.

    Stop thinking Destiny's Child, Green Day and 50 Cent represent all of today's music, because your knowledge of music is probably limited to a time machine stuck in the 60's. Expand your horizon a little before you make such idiotic statements about music. After all, you were born about twenty-eight years too late to know what the hell you're talking about.
     

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