Working hours

Anyone seen the film "office space"? The film is dead funny but unerringly accurate

 

People liked my first theory, so here's another.

An employee and employer agree, before the work is done, what the employee is to be paid. Assuming that the work conditions are as described and the employee performs as they promised, the employee is paid regardless how much value he added to the employers stuff. The employee gets what he was promised for doing what he promised. Except for non-payment (a.k.a. slavery), an employee can not be exploited.

 

Sounds like Wal-Mart, open 24/7.

 

Is your mum a temp ? or a permanent member of staff ?.. If she is a temp i have to say she is not as lucky.. but if she is permanent she has legislation to give her ''work life balance'' http://www.employersforwork-lifebalance.org.uk/work/legislation.htm . Even if your mum is a temp.. it might be good to see what her rights are.. Companys sometimes hide behind ignorance of employers.. If she is fully aware of her rights 1.what the hell is she working there for ?

It does seem Tesco is getting it in the neck recently.. probably because of there huge profits.. [any Hip forums supporters might find my ''Fuck tesco'' thread i started when pre tax profits were anounced last year.. i thought Tesco would become the next 'coporate monster' even if maybe unjustly targeted by anti capitalists and the like ??.]


My brother works for Tesco.. he seems to have steady hours ?.. but i don't know the Tesco your mum works for [obviously]..

Conveniance.. shoppers wish for 24 hours or the companys simply would not do it for very long..

 

I feel that you need to think a little harder. It goes deeper than capitalism and communism but in order to explain I'd have to give you a long and contraversial lecture, and by the end you wouldn't believe me anyway. Check out the political forums and learn a little

 

Don't understand what you mean by that, and politics is a complex issue. A statement like "Yea, the society where humanity is a higher priority than money is called communism, and that worked really well." shows a complete lack of understanding. Sorry to sound mean, but the communist empires that fell in the 20th century are no indication of whether a society can base itself more on the needs of humans than simply making more money.

 

I have been saying for a very long time, the reason church attendence is down, is not because less people believe in god, it because the mall is open.

 

And its because I'm the most popular man-whore in Australia and i'm now open for business 7 days a week.

 

As long as we, as a society, keep supporting these businesses, it will only get worse(a.k.a. Wal-Mart)

 

ok - this is the way it works

britain - the short story. massive pool of labour- low wages because of it. no need to educate its citizens as educated/trained people can be imported. currency strong, strong buying power, can import products as currency strong can give loans to foreign countries and live off the interest, as products being imported are paid for by the interest on the loans. massive surveillance programme to watch and control the population to stop open revolt, only need to educate and train who can be useful AND loyal to the people who own britain. massive social problems but this can be managed by by police and security forces. plus the weathers fucked.

me - i don't have any problem with it as i don't live there anymore. its rather like the various third world dictatorships around the world - the people ultimately prefer the way they live, under a dictatorship, tyranny etc. when australia eventually turns into the british system i'll leave and go to another dying democracy. as for you in britain - leave if you can.

 

That sounds like a load of shit.

 

It is a load of bullshit..

 

well tell me how you think "it" works. as a man who openly encourages and supports war and openly advocates the use of depleted uranium i am curious.

 

mmm don't think so.. i agree and 'support' actions taken and openly try and show that mechanisms in place are not based on 'lies' .. Yeah i guess that is true.. when people say things like 'No war for oil' or 'bring our troops home'.. i try and find WHY they say such things.. many people have a NO WAR EVER attitude wich i respect but they also argue about 'lies' and many other things from that position wich is like 'no shit sherlock' of course you are going to say that... if i disagree or people just spout stuff that is based on no more than a 'satirical' take on things yeah i try and say 'you are wrong' if they prove me wrong .. fair enough.. i have no problem with that.

Highlight when i have done so??.. I point out DP is not a danger as some people say.. Who base their POV on hearsay and miss the finer points..and the arguement that is put against it is based on a falsehood.

Whats wrong with dispelling myths ?

e.g

Sandia releases study on health effects of DU exposure during 1991 Gulf War

Sandia National Laboratories has completed a two-year study of the potential health effects associated with accidental exposure to depleted uranium (DU) during the 1991 Gulf War.
The study concludes that the reports of serious health risks from DU exposure are not supported by veteran medical statistics nor supported by this analysis. Only a few U.S. veterans in vehicles accidentally struck by DU munitions are predicted to have inhaled sufficient quantities of DU particulate to incur any significant health risk. For these individuals, DU-related risks include the possibility of temporary kidney damage and about a 1 percent chance of fatal cancer.
Health risks for Iraqi civilians are predicted to be very small, and claims of observable increases in leukemia and birth defects from DU exposure are not supported by this study. The highest health risk for civilians was for children playing in DU-contaminated vehicles. The nominal radiation-induced fatal cancer risk for these children was 0.1%.


> View Sandia release July 21, 2005 An Analysis of Uranium Dispersal and Health Effects Using a Gulf War Case Study, by Albert C. Marshall, SANDIA REPORT SAND2005-4331, July 2005
> Download full report (2M PDF)


http://www.wise-uranium.org/dissgw.html

I have no chrystaline reasoning to 'how it works' i just think what you say is not true.. i hope i naively point out a bit later..or at least try and point out that you miss vast swathes of the truth...

True..but thousands of people who don't wish to work.. thousands of people who would rather take take take ..rather than work.

Explain your rationale ?.

We have to 'import' people as economic migrants..because people don't wish to train .. simple as that.. They wish to have a placement for a few weeks and expect to earn £25.000 afterwards.. It is true that 'Britain' could not cope with out 'importing' people.. but thats a social issue based on a lack of will .. always has been.

Opportunity is there..

e.g

http://www.dti.gov.uk/er/nmw/

http://jobseekers.direct.gov.uk/SubjectMenu.aspx?Obj=T&SessionID=d0613f6b-9e5c-4e2f-8af7-619df6f6957f

That just makes no sense at all...

What on earth are you talking about... ?? what 'programme'.. ? you are just making this shit up now.

http://www.ico.gov.uk/eventual.aspx watching us watching you watching us..yeah i can see how we have no opportunity to have information .

People have ample opportunity to train and manage there future like never before... they can move around europe as they please.. it is countries that have no or little control of how their people are trained wich is a problem.. we have skills that are merely taken abroad after people are trained within this country..thats a problem.. we train people too well.

That i have to agree.... the weather is fucked..

Yeah Britain is terrible.. http://www.dh.gov.uk/Home/fs/en

I think Britain is best with out people like you..miserable bastard..

 

how elegant. as for my economic theory, this can be found in any economics textbook that explores inflation, currency and unemployment. depleted uranium - a 0.1 % risk multiplied by even one million children starts adding up. i'm afraid the rosy outlook put out by the govenment in its hand outs isn't borne out in reality. as for training programmes you yourself point out that people who are trained, move abroad - can you think why? anyway statistically i suppose enough trained natives will stay in britain.
i starting waxing lyrical on history as some guidance but decided to just delete it.

 

maybe..but your confusing and mixing multiple arguements for your own benefit..

Possibly.. but images of deformed babies and such shortly after these 'attacks' is a little propagandist.. would you not agree ?..

Clearly nothing is perfect ... neither it is a negative as you proclaim.. that was my point.

oh spoil sport...

 

just for a laugh read some economics books, look in the section covering unemployment and inflation or interest rates. there was a fellow from the london school of economics - phillip something - in 1958 i think who wrote a paper on this. at any rate alan greenspan is a great believer in this connection and has been feted by all and sundry by simply making the connection between unemployment and inflation. just look through this stuff it will amaze you.

the fact still remains that you won't eat any depleted uranium, if it was so safe you would eat some. i mean if someone asked me to eat a nice apple i wouldn't think twice. if on the otherhand someone asked me to consume the byproduct of the nuclear industry i would think them mad. what i would consider completely insane would be the concept of spreading it across the land exposing it to present and all future generations. the americans you have to remember injected pregnant women with radioactive isotopes after ww2 (bill clinton apologised for this whilst in office) to experiment on them. they also marched 100,000 troops through ground zero to see what fallout would do to soldiers. if they do this to their own , ye gods, what are we meant to make of their character?

british domestic and foreign policy? i favour the more pragmatic and easily obtainable evidence, if you seek its monument look around.