What i don't get..

uhmm sometimes men make me want to become a hard ass feminist

 

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what im saying is scientific fact...

 

Don't tell me what I "like to think", ok? ok.

The OP wasn't talking about fit or healthy, she was talking about being thin. Anorexia, ribs showing, that kind of thin. What we see as "fit" (aka ridiculously skinny) isn't what has always been seen as the ideal shape for a woman, and in a lot of cases isn't good for childbearing (people with shapes like Paris Hilton for example... very skinny hips like that make childbearing incredibly difficult for the woman). There is a difference between what we/society sees as skinny and attractive compared to what is appropriate for childbearing/propagation of the species

 

As with most things, what we find attractive is the result of a combination of both culturally influenced and innate cognitive processes.

 

Yes, I am a joke. Tongue in cheek my unreasonable friend. On a serious note, just because your opinions are so called 'backed up by science', which in relation to THIS TOPIC i don't think they are. Aryan supremicists often use the science excuse too, and they use stupid reasoning too.

I'll read the article when I get home tonight, gotta go...but you're still an idiot. I'd like you to walk up to a grou of feminists and say some of the stuff you did about 'life not being fair', Even if YOU weren't talking about anorexia, WE'RE talking about it, because most of the models you see today do not have a healthy hourglass shape, but are rather unhealthily skinny (by the standards of the typical healthy woman)

Making excuses for this is not helping the cause, nor is it helping womens' body image issues.

 

RE: 5. Why is it that the average white model, that is someone who is highly attractive by our society's standards, often has a close to anorexic figure which can hardly be called healthy?

Because the fashion industry is run by gay men, who lust after teenage boys. Hence, they are constantly pushing boyish looking waifs of both genders on us.

 

Do we appreciate the extremely thin because they're plastered all over the media, or are the extremely thing plastered all over the media because we appreciate them?

 

There's a difference between explaining something and justifying it. I don't think anyone was saying that's it's fantastic that paranoid adolescent girls make themselves puke to get thin, rather trying to understand why they feel the need to.

 

you can say that again

 

I never said anything of the sort. You're just doing what you are arguing against.

Did you read lucifer sam's post? Even if it was only 50% true (which I say is the maximum) it wasn't necessary. I can post about 100 ads depicting young woman and GUESS WHAT? But i have better things to do. All i know is that mr. Lucifer sam siam cat's opinions were typical of those expressed by me and annoying chauvanistic intellectual types in high school. But we had to change because we met our match in women.

 

eh?

I was just saying that explaining why something occurs is not to justify it (or "make excuses" for it in your words). In fact it's pretty important to understand all the factors involved, both social and psychological before you can ever attempt to address such a problem.

Whatever, I have no desire to stick up for what someone else said

 

ok, sorry, i misread. I totally agree.

I still think the bottom line here, is that in THIS THREAD, what men find 'naturally attractive' according to science is not relavent at all, so it was not necessary to bring that idea up, because in fact, what is currently culturally attractive (and you'll find in magazines and television that 'culture' dominates) is far from natural.

Instead of spewing out the pathetic garbage that is the "Life isn't fair" ideology, how about instead we say, "don't worry so much, what matters is that YOU feel healthy, and not that you look like an bullimic (spelling?) catwalk model".