Hey everybody, Just wondering how many of you are 100% confident in your beliefs, with no room for doubt. How many of you are very confident, but have a small amount of doubt that they could be wrong. And how many have no fucking idea what they believe at all. Thanks Peace.
I live infinitely with an open mind. I learn new things everyday that make me feel differently about many issues...We evolve as people as we grow older. If we live with an open mind we may find enlightenment in the end.
According to a personal belief system I have devised...even if I doubt my beliefs I don't stray a moment from the truth. And I can't help but be 100% confident any more than I can be 100% alive. I must be a confident believer or I would not exist. It's a bit of a gamble to put your faith in anything...you might be wrong. But don't you ever want to be right? Sometimes you've just got to find something to believe in and risk it. For me it is love.
I'd say I'm about 98% confident, only because I very, very rarely hear any new positions that I haven't already explored before. Occasionally it happens, and when it does, I generally find paradoxes, inconsistancies, etc. But, I do keep an open mind.
well it depends on what, in my case, i dont have religious beliefs or something, or else yes i am confident
Well, I see myself between option 2 and option 3. As pop-terror said, I act as if they are true, and assume they are, but of course, there's no way to be sure, and in fact if it came down to it I couldn't ever prove I'm right. However, in the broad sense, I do feel pretty sure, like Hikaru said. But again, there's no way to know. There's a saying that goes, "hope for the best, prepare for the worst" and my faith in what I believe is similar. "act as if I'm right, acknowledge that I could be wrong" or something like that. After all, the wise ones know that they know nothing.
I wouldn't be able to call them "beliefs" if I didn't believe them 100%, without doubt. But my beliefs change as I learn new things, and I learn new things every day. My beliefs are fluid, in a state of perpetual change, but that does not make me believe them any less at any given time.
Firm faith can only be achieved when one has true absolute knowledge coming directly from god him self. That knowledge is transcendental which is beyond this material creation and is past down through a chain of disciplic succession from spiritual master to disciple in an unbroken chain. I am in such a disciplic succession and I have heard from authorities on the subject of god. I am saying that Krishna is god and he gives the science of understanding god and our selves in his Bhagavad gita. http://www.asitis.com/1/21-22.html Translated and commentary by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
Hehe ... you and everyone else, friend. =) See the thing I don't like is when people say "I am absolutely 100% correct because I am an authority on the matter." If anyone is truly an authority, then they have no need to profess that they are an authority, and by merely showing people the truth, others will understand that they are an authority.
"If someone has helped you and you make of him your authority, then are you not preventing all further help, not only from him, but from everything about you? Does not help lie about you everywhere? Why look in only one direction? And when you are so enclosed so bound, can any help reach you? But when you are open, there is unending help in all things, from the song of a bird to the call of a human being, from the blade of grass to the immensity of the heavens. The poison and corruption begin when you look to one person as your authority, your guide, your saviour." - Jiddu Krishnamurti
Hikaru Zero If someone shows you the truth the question is will you except it. If god appears in front of you will you know he is god.
"I believe in God, only ... I spell it Nature." - Frank Lloyd Wright Nature is the energy of god and god is the controller. There has to be a intelligence to control such an organized universe.
If there is reason enough to believe that it is the truth, yes. If he's wearing a T-shirt that says "God," then unquestionably yes. But seriously -- if there is such an omnipotent being as a God, and he makes it known to me, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that he exists (which he can do, he is omnipotent), then yes, I would know. If he doesn't make this known, then I might question his omnipotence and thus his Godship. Your conclusion is just a little bit limited, and here is why I believe such: Let's pretend that I have a password, on a computer. I actually do, but ... let's pretend my password is, say, "cheese". Now ... there are two ways to find out my password if I don't tell you. The first way, is to use reason and logic to make an intelligent guess or series of guesses. You could "design" my password through your intellect, if it was advanced enough. The second way is to brute force the password. To try EVERY single password that could possibly exist. Assuming the password is between 2 and 8 characters long, you might first try the password "aa" and then "ab" and "ac" and so on ... until you end up with "zz", and then you might try "aaa" and "aab" and so forth ... until you ultimately end up with "zzzzzzzz". One method is difficult, but doesn't take long before you get it right. The other one is easy, doesn't involve a lot of brainwork, but takes practically forever to do. And by practically forever, let's pretend I'm talking about ... say ... 15 billion years. Now, YOU posit that the Universe HAD to have been designed by an intelligent creator, and thusly an intelligent thought process. But, couldn't the universe have been just as easily brute-forced by trying random combinations over 15 billion years? However unlikely you may believe that to be, one combination will EVENTUALLY emerge as the correct combination. You might hit me up with some statistics, and say something like "to exhaust all possible combinations, that would take infinitely longer than 15 billion years." But, we all know that, on AVERAGE it might take much longer, but even on the first try in the first year, it is still possible, however unlikely it may be. And in a Universe such as ours, there are many combinations that can be considered "correct." Humanity is doubtfully the most "correct." Animals are also "correct" combinations that lead to life, and there are PLENTY of species out there. That's not counting viruses, bacteria, single-celled organisms, plants, or protocells. My point is -- there doesn't NECESSARILY have to be an intelligent designer of the Universe. You say that there does, but clearly you are not considering the other possibilities. You say Nature is the energy of god and god is the controller ... but I believe the inverse. God (or the god-concpet) is the energy of Nature (millions of years of development has led us to understand the god-concept) and Nature is the controller (via natural selection / brute-forcing). Take a minute to consider that as a possibility before you jump to a conclusion that I am wrong.
For 19 years old,you've got your ducks in a row.Nice.Agnostisism is what seemed logical to me at a very early age,since I'm fairly sure that the mysteries of life and death have frightened and intrigued us even before languages were developed.I still get a kick out of those who have "the answer",for it's obvious that in our present form,"the answer " is eneffable.
I have no idea what i really belive I belive there is some kind of force or higher power but thats it. There are things i like about alot of differet ideals, especially buddhism, neo-paganism, and a few others...i like beliving that there is something out there but it really is starting to bug me that I have no definition at all...
Same here. I think there has to be some sort of undefined higher power energy force. But just like you I can't really fit it in with a religion or any sort of true definition, so don't really know what the hell I'm doing. ahhhhhhh
without doubt there would be no use for faith. doubt is what faith is really all about.......... sorry if sum1 already posted a reply like this for i didnt read the whole thread