Salvia Cigarette question

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by Grim, Dec 10, 2005.

  1. Grim

    Grim Wandering Wonderer

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    Howdy ladies and gents...I was thinking someone here may be able to settle an argument.
    A friend of mine says smoking Salvia in joint or cigarette form will never work...I maintain that it should work to some extent.
    I've checked around on Erowid, totse, etc...but they're all a bit inconclusive about it. So say I rolled a healthy amount of Salvia or took all the crap out of a Cig and re-filled it with SD, would it work or no?
     
  2. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    If it did work, it would be the absolute minimum of effects.

    Salvinorin-A has a vaporization temperature of 350 degrees Fahrenheit. Burning embers (such as on a cigarette) are generally around 200 degrees Fahrenheit. That doesn't really cut it.
     
  3. Tainted

    Tainted Member

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    You wouldn't ever achieve a break through. A friend of mine has a large supply of 10x salvia though, and he threw about half a gram onto a 1.5 gram blunt. He wasn't sure if the effects he felt were placebo or not, but he said he thought he could feel the salvia a little. (My friend has 25 grams of salvia so I wouldn't waste any money trying it unless you have a lot)
     
  4. redgreenvines

    redgreenvines Member

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    it would work and it does work but is not a great idea.

    the fatter joints of salvia work better than the thinner ones permitting a threashold amount to burn quickly. a fat joint might have a whole gram of salvia leaf in it and could be quickly consumed by 4 people for effects, it has to be fat not long as it must burn quickly.

    that isthe only obstacle - i.e. delivering 6 micrograms of salvinorin or more per second to the bloodstream after 50 seconds of that transfer rate you get good effects,

    less transfer and it is only subthreashold, more transfer and you go to level 5 or level 6 - the dose is 350-500 micrograms over 50 seconds (no longer) -

    since it can be difficult to burn 1/5th of a gram of salvia in a joint in one or two tokes (which would be required to achieve this time requirement) you could say that it wont work, but I have doen it with a fat joint.

    the vaporization temperature issue is not important here, when you draw you are sucking and thereby reducing the pressure and in that way lowering the vap temp. it is just how much is delivered how quickly to the blood.

    For this reason torch lighters are useful for plain leaf in a pipe, as with them you can incinerate easily incinerate 1/4 of a gram of leaf quickly.

    if this were not the case you could smoke the ashes and get off, but that does not work, because the salvinorin does in fact leave those ashes and goes into the airstream.

    joints are generally not the right idea, because the dosage is hard to handle, the idea of sharing a joint of salvia socially is slightly off kilter, and the joint needs to be very fat.
     
  5. batmannu

    batmannu banned

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    hei dudes, as yer sucking cig, then the temperature might be about 1000C...
    this is what i remember from somewhere, but i might be 100% wrong too :p
     
  6. Grapefruity

    Grapefruity Sunny Side Up

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    Well I tried a salvia joint once.

    Rolled 1 gram, smoked very fast between three people...tried to finish it, it was impossible because of extreme euphoria and laughing. Reccomended, if you want to have fun with it instead of getting a billion miles away.
     
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