on saturday i had 2 hits of hoffman acid at my first squat party and for about 30 minutes during the peak i think i may have come close to what people call ego death, though ive never experienced this before other than with salvia. I could feel my body being dissolved away but never completely, My thought was going on increasingly abstract patterns, i was completely unresponsive to anyone trying to communicate with me and finally i was getting so mashed that i was gradually losing touch with what is was to be myself, i was almost 100% just the experience of my distorted vision. I was thinking if i have 3 hoffmans int eh future i will almost certainly have ego death, but do you think it worth it as an experience?
i think ego death is a valuable experience for any human being. but to have the experience you have to let go of all your considerations for what you like and don't like and what is and isn't worthwile. at the moment of ego death, none of that matters. If you are of the spiritual nature, and want to pursue the higher self, then ego death is definitely a "worthwile" experience. I guess if your gonna do it, prepare and practice so when it comes you are ready but don't think too hard about it. just know that if you take 3 hoffmans again, which you probably will be tempted to do at one point, know what's gonna happen and have some sort of preperation (i'd suggest meditation practice) to guide you through. ego death brings you to your basic self, a single point of awareness not filtered by our thoughts and opinions. i think only after the experience you can decide whether or not you liked it.
some people can get there with less. 350-400 mics is capable of bringing ego death in some people, in the right set and setting
wasnt really good or bad really, it just was. Do you think having my conciousness twisted beyond recognition as a human can be beneficial at all. I just know that acid at lower doses has helped me to discover myself and be more confident in who i am.
because either somone is an abusive hardhead (created, by taking doses constantly) or the soil is getting very improved.
I only trip in the direction of ego death. After one time, I guess you wanna go back...Its worthwhile at least one time Id say. When you see the light ,just stop thinking and free your mind... and most people can experience it with 200 ug im pretty sure. When at the edge of ego death, synesthesia with any sound becomes pretty obvious, if it is not all you can see. The visuals should start lookin bolder,like not totally abstract anymore, and some symptoms may come if you are still up. Nausea, feeling like your body is liquid, strange noises or sounds...The moment of the transition is pretty intense I find. It started for me as I knew lots of energy was forming around me, I was starting not to like it that much, feeling kinda squeezed, then the energy came as a powerful wave, painful agony for a sec, I let go...and its over... The thing ive seen, is that for someone who hasnt experienced it, pretty much any dose can make the person feel hes on the edge of ego death, if thats what he is hoping for...
I though this guy earlyxsunset was really experienced with the stuff...he makes it sound kind of like bullshit.
^ Thats a good description of ego loss. I feel ego loss is beneficial, it certainly humbles you. Personally it is a bit much and takes you over the edge. I think you learn allot more when you are near ego loss and still can contemplate what ever pops into your head.
after i experienced it, i wanted to feel it again - the next time was my baddest trip ever! ... (not that it was bad - just captivated in my mind) but because i made it so important to get away from my ego - out of my thinking mind - all i did was making my ego and thinking mind real. btw, first time was also on a low dose. still one and only time of that strength. totally bliss.
I've found, on two separate occasions during the same trip, that ego loss was preceeded by an increase in the electrical current I was feeling that made my body go numb. That's one thing I've always felt that lets me know I'm pretty close to all the way up, is the electrical current buzz thing. I don't think I'd necessarily call what I had full blown ego death though, more like tying a rope around yourself and leaning way far over the edge as opposed to just jumping off. I got the view, but not the full experience. Hopefully, itll be within the next two weeks that I can get some L.
haha neuronaut i remember you from the shroomery! I think. Do you mean like you felt egoless with the 'current' for a sec, then you came back? Sometimes you take a dose and its like clear you are leaning to ego death, but the trip starts declining just when you are starting to remember the process...and youre like, bummer. But you soon remember the fun of being humans on earth. Maybe you need one hit more.
I don't like the shroomery boards, they're sort of a joke to me. Lots of people on there posting +5 experiences that were more like +1, just seemed so lame.
I have never posted on the shroomery boards, and after reading a few of the +5 experiences, I have similar feelings as 2ceswild. Some of those seem made up, like someone heard about what tripping was from a friend and decided to make up a story. For that matter, so do some of the stories on Erowid. I guess you could say that, but it was more like a lack of feeling, though to say that is stretching it just a bit. I wasn't totally numb, I still felt like I had the current...i don't know how to explain it.
I just think some people at the shroomery intellectualize too much and it makes 2 miles long post that you dont even when to start reading. Then if you dont talk to em in this way, you points arent even considered, or refutated using the 2 miles long post method. Used to be lots of knowledgable people there a few years ago...maybe it changd since. Neuronaut I hope next time will be the good one. Just remember to turn off your mind as much as possible when the time comes.
when i experienced my death - everything was just normal ... i did remeber some trembling, shakes in my body, but not that i woukld name that with energy or current or something astral-like ... ego-death for me is like waking up from a dream. like your perfectly sober at that point - even more sober than the moment you went to the bakery for bread the same day. i just sat there, smiling. also do remeber that the visuals were very profound. specially CEV. when your thinking mind is gone - it seems like all your attention can really LOOK to what is happening arround you, or inside you - instead of giving half of your attention to those mind-processes. with me it happend after hearing longs talks abut abstract buddhist stuff and mindprocesses en ego. alot of Osho book infor. maybe you could try the same ... talk about that shit untill you UNDERSTAND hèhè
