Remedies for Bad Trips

My first time trip will be a mild but substantial dose of Hawaiian baby woodrose tea. I have a packet of dramamine handy to help with the nausea, but i'm concerned as to how I can handle a bad trip in the future as I'll probably be doing some harder stuff.

So far in my research i've concluded that good remedies are:
- A friend to talk you down
- A sugary drink
- A dose of benzodiazepenes (Valium)

I don't want to run the risk of a life damaging trip so I think I would feel safest to get a hold of some valium, but its only availiable through prescription. Are there any over the counter drugs which have similar anti-psychotic properties?

Or should I just chill the fuck out and trip already?

EDIT: MY druggie friends are hardly the best companions for a first time experience, but my clean friends probably wouldn't enjoy babysititting me for a day....is it worth the risk to just go it alone?

 

Xanax, thorazine, peter, paul, & mary, valium, roofies, reefer, hot girlfriend.

 

Bah as ive seen with lsa, youd have to eat lots to have a bad experience because of intensity of effects...

Don't think about the badtrip though...The best remedy are antipsychotics like risperdal. They dotn just calm ya down they beat the trip's ass up and this last runs away.

Chill the fuck out

 

Yeah, with those seeds you don't have anything but nausea to worry about.

 

reefer will not help at all. it will make the trip more intense and more out of control.

lots of sugar or vitamin C will kill off the visuals.

 

you'll probably be fine alone on lsa.


I would reccomend using mushrooms or lsd over lsa. I have never tried any of the seeds, but from my understanding they seem to be a waste of time.

 

i gotta say, HBWR seeds have been hell for me; i won't touch that stuff again. i, like mushie, also would recommend mushrooms or LSD over lsa.

i've done those seeds a few times at various dose levels and it's never been pleasant. they take three hours to come up, the nausea is deathly, the visuals are crippled, and the bodyload is uncomfortable. but, then again, i'm used to the mellow, relaxing warmth of LSD or the life-forming power of mushrooms...

 

duh, people who are taking lsa are doing it because they cant get lsd or mushrooms. if they could, they would have already, and would not be asking something like 'how to handle a bad trip'

 

The best remedy is just learning how to deal with it. Of course some people have traumatic memories and stuff I don't really have a frame of reference with, but in the long run standard bad trips are just learning experiences with which you'll later learn to essentially master tripping and feel like god every time you take a good dose. After time you'll learn that kind of mental slyness that comes with tripping which allows you to dodge and go around bad psychic material.

 

weve got clever people here!

k+

 

The worst part of LSA is if somehow you accidentally underdose and take just enough to experience horrifying nausea while not getting any visuals!

 

Thanks everyone..that was useful.

For all the lsa bashers, at the current time its the best i can do I've done the research and i think i'll be fine. From what i've heard the problem with hbwr and mgs is that they're often not handled properly. I'll tell you how it goes.

 

I've done a whole host of psychedelics, including LSD, mushrooms, RC's. And I've found LSA can be a profound experience even without any fancy visuals, against the commonplace stereotype. What I did was took a good amount of Morning Glory seeds (hundreds & hundreds[didnt have much luck with HBWR]), let them soak in a bowl of water for a day and then pinched all their husks off(the thing that causes the nausea), put all the innards on a sandwich and ate it. After the effects started I smoked a bowl or two and that intensified it; I'd imagine if you popped some speed along with smoking a bowl or two it'd be even more intense. It produced a pretty cool mental state, very electrically buzzed and enjoyable.

 

Actually, forget valium, the best remedy for a bad LSA trip would be LSD.

 

The best thing to do is to go into your trip in a positive mindset. Your frame of mind pre-trip can greatly affect the actual trip. Be positive, calm and excited for your trip, and odds are that you'll have a good experience. If you're worrying about anything (even having a bad trip) it just makes it more likely that you'll actually have a bad trip. Weird, huh? Just put yourself in an environment where you are comfortable with people with whom you are comfortable.

And if you do start having a bad trip, as has been said, remember, it will go away.

A trick I use if I'm worried about having a bad trip is this: I take a piece of paper, and write a short letter to myself (in large, clear writing so I won't struggle with it if under the influence ). In the letter, I remind myself that I am on a drug, list what drug it is, how much I took, and remind myself that it's all in my mind and will go away. Add a smiley face or two, maybe a sticker of something funny or happy, and then I fold it up and put in my pocket. If I freak out during a trip, I eventually find that letter, and I end up just laughing it all off and enjoying the rest of the trip. It works for me, so if you like the sound of it, try it.

Remember! Think positively!

 

Thanks, you guys are cool.

 

Ive found some positive reggae to be the quickest turnaround to a negative cid trips, HBRW's can be pretty fun though, and really intense I heard from a few people I hooked up with them last time I had a few

 

SALVIA DIVINORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Never did Morning Glory Seeds before but I have done Woodrose seeds before and it was a great experience. I took 9 and did get the nausea about 5 minutes after I ate them. My friend and I smoked a little weed and in about 15-20 minutes the nausea passed and didn't come back the rest of the night. In fact later on I was hungry. The trip was great, I had nice body euphoria and even some visuals. Looking up at the sky during the peak we noticed the clouds weaving in and out of the purplish sky. Colors and sound were also def. enhanced. I just ordered 100 more off the same site and plan to up the dose next time.

But to prevent or turn a bad trip, I always say just simply change what you are doing. Try turning on the tv (nothing frightening of course), talking to a friend, playing a video game, maybe change the music because the music that is on can dictate your mood. As far as the nausea is concerned dont eat for at least 6 hours before ingesting the seeds. This way there is nothing to throw up in your stomach. Then take a drammamine a half hour or so before eating the seeds and then smoke some weed. That should do the trick and prevent vomiting or long term nausea. That is the best advice I can give you for Woodrose seeds.

 

ffs divinorum, salvia is a piece of shit. Yes it is powerful but it is also creepy, and bad trips can be as common as good ones. The visuals even on an immaterial trips are vague and undetailed and lack much colourfulness. Finally the fact that it just makes you seep out of this world completely forgetting that you have taken a drug for part of the experience is just unwanted. You can't learn from an experience that removed from reality and it isnt really enjoyable either. It is hardly a replacement for LSD or even LSA i guess.

And if you like the mystical travel to another plane type of trips you might as well be smoking DMT. It is a million times better than salvia.

Have you even tried good LSD divinorum, or are you just guessing that salvia is better?