Check it, about 6 months ago a couple friends & I phone the INS which is a U.S program to catch illegal immigrates in this country. About labor pool. If you don't know what labor pool is, it's a place that you can come in every morning during weekdays to see what construction or company needs workers. Labor pool finds what job sites need extra laborers & all you have to do is wait until 10 am & most likely you'll get your name called to work for them that day. Alot of my friends & I have been going here for the pass few years because we can't find jobs in the area. Please visit my other thread for a more in depth look on why we can't located here http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151618. But about 11 months ago these illegal immigrates started showing up around the area in truck loads looking for work at the labor pool. A few months in us normal guys couldn't get work because these little fuckers worked for lower pay & the companies could get away with taxes since none of them were using SSN because they didn't have any. So a couple friends of mine that use to work there called up INS. Nothing happen. About 3 months ago my friend Larry tired to get in the doorway of the labor pool to find work & one of the immigrates knifed him pretty bad & he had to go to the hospital. The cops couldn't find the guy who did it. So some of the gang & I got to talking, since the government isn't doing anything about this, it's time to take it in our own hands & get these bastards out of our neighborhood. Couple of the guys got some of the ex-workers to rally in front of the place. An hour in it got violent. Here are some of the pictures of the event. For some reason we never even made the News. Only a tiny article on page 16 in the local news paper. (I guess when a bunch of white guys riot no one gives a shit) Anyhow, about 2 weeks after the riot INS stept in & has arrested over 289 illegal immigrates in my area. (& their are still arrest coming in each week!) My buds & I finally can go back to the labor pool & find work. I also got a phone call last week by a guy across town needing help with the same problem, I'll write more on that as it progresses.
No one is illegal! Great you and your white friends had a riot, you have no idea what the immigrants are going through. You think your white skin gives you the privelige of work? You don't think all of those people have families too? The INS will deport them to a situation worse than any living they could have made here, and of no fault of their own. The never ending system of American imperialism has destroyed any chance of making a good living in Mexico or any country in central or south america. Your anger is misguided. The system of capitalism is a system of death.
Tony, dontcha know people like you and your friends are supposed to signup for duty in Iraq! They need lots of cannon fodder there, and those who are marginalized by America's Economic & Social Darwinism can become heroes (dead ones!). If you aren't born with Bush's silver spoon, you have few choices anymore, so why not give your life for your cuntree? Let the illegals do the dirty work at home. They're gonna be the majority in a few years time anyway. The Mexicans are gonna reclaim the US. In the meantime we NEED that oil for our SUVs!
I don't agree with rioting, which only plays into the hands of the system you think you're rebelling against. You guys went about it the wrong way. Violence only equals more violence. You make all people who have legitmate concerns about illegal immigration look bad. You are only adding to the problem, not the solution. I wouldn't doubt that the police started the riot, but obviously there must have been some pre-planning on you and your friends' behalf if there were molotov cocktails involved (if that's what I am seeing in those pictures). As far as illegal immigration goes.... Illegal immigration has become a HUGE problem in this country. I personally don't hold the illegals accountable for this, since they are deliberately being allowed to flood the country by our "elected officials." George W. Bush - a supposed "conservative" whose mindless followers like to believe he is "tough on terror" - apparently has no problems with leaving the borders wide open while our rights and civil liberties are abolished in the name of "national security." Of course Bush is not the one in charge (can he even tie his own shoes?), he is merely a puppet taking orders from on high. The immigration debacle we are seeing is deliberate. The Elite want to flood the country with illegal immigrants because their goal is to bring this country down to third-world status. This is not speculation. This is documented FACT! The plan is to eventually merge the U.S. with Canada on Mexico in the name of globalism and world government. Always remember the Global Elite exercise control above all governments, pledging no allegience to any particular country. They couldn't care less about what happens to this country because the world is nothing more than a chessboard to them, and we are merely pawns in the game. Along with this, the Elite love to create division, which leads to war. When you infiltrate and saturate an area with people who cannot speak the language and come from completely different cultures, you create what is known as racial tension. What we saw recently in France could someday be a reality here. Like it was in France, it will all be by design. Problem-reaction-solution. Let us also take into consideration that there are many radical pro-Mexican groups like La Raza (the Race) and Mecha - who claim their goal is to reclaim America and kill off all white men (see "the Plan of San Diego") - actually receive funding from the tax-exempt foundations, such as the Ford Foundation, as well as some of the major multinational corporations. You have to ask yourself why.
Is that a molotov cocktail I see in the 2nd and 3rd photos? Pure genius. Start a rally with the obvious intent of becoming violent and whine about it.
I would like to know, exactly how did this protest transpire? How did the protest turn violent? Where were those pictures taken, and whom were they taken by? There is something that seems fishy about those pictures. It looks like some sort of staged exercise/drill.
The whole block is basically the labor station area, & it's on the industry part of town. We started rallying about 11 am on a Monday. Usually the people & what not are all moved out of there by 10:30 am since if you haven't gotten called by 10 you're not going to work for that day. We already phone city & arranged a meeting/permit to rally that day, weeks a head. So once we got there the streets were pretty empty & some cops were there, the camera shots were from a friends girlfriend at the rally, there are open entree's on to top of the building since her ex-boyfriend lives up on the top floor of one of the buildings near the labor pool, so she had free range to roam. At first their were only about 1 unit with 12 or so guys out there with us protesting. But I didn't make it out there until unit 2 came with another set of guys, most my friends. Their were also 6 homeless guys that live at the hotels & depend on labor pool for work, that were out with us in the first unit. I would say the cops did start intimating us, but it wasn't until the manager of the labor pool came out on loud speaker & started saying shit on the lines of "We were good for nothings," or "go back to your homes, we don't want you here anymore." That's when the riot turn violent. In no way are we or I blaming the police in the protest, Most were just doing their jobs but some were, were hate filled that we were protesting about the illegal immigration problem. These photos were shot 10 minutes before us protesters went down Holly St. which is the end of that street on 3 photo. Once there, the police had to retreat ground & disband for that's when 3 more units of protesters came running out of no where with cocktail bombs & two with rifles. All in all half of the job labor buildings were torched & the crowed dismissed, their were some arrest, & one or two of the guys are still awaiting court dates. Also Pressed rat you've given me alot of great insight, do you have any more info or websites I could show to the guys?
Let me get this staright... You protested them for going to the labor pool to get a job? Sounds like "I was here first its my turff" stuff.
I don't like an illegal foreigner taking my countryman's job. Yeah that's right, no reading through the lines, thick or thin. I don't know how it is in Texas [chuckles] but here in New York that's how it works, if you don't like it I'll burn down your house.
No... those people came here illegally. He has the right to work there. They should try and change their government to better fit them, instead of coming here and taking Citizens' jobs away. And I think that is very sorry to work for really low wages like that just to get someone else's job. What about GreasyTony's well being?
...How the crap do you think the Americas were "founded" by Europe? as far as well being, they work for low wages for their well being, Tony can either do the same or look for a diffrent job, go down to unemployment agency etc etc.
Yes we were founded by immigrants HUNDREDS of years ago... who also wiped out the native american population. Well now that we are settled and natural born americans, we have ILLEGAL immigrants coming over here and taking away our jobs. The immigrants could try and find a job in THEIR country, or somewhere else, but this is where this guy LIVES. I dont understand how you could even advocate this. Yeah America's government is really fucked up. But I am not for someone else who doesnt even have citizenship taking away jobs from citizens, I mean come on what the fuck? I am all for people coming to America and having a lot of different cultures, but try and do it legally, if you are going to do it, because it only hurts everyone else in the long run.
While I am empathetic to these immagrants, I think we need to look after and provide for our own citizens first and foremost. Our system may not be perfect, but it is the one we have to work within, so while we all may be suffering because of the system if we are going to try and help people I think we should start first with those people who are citizens of our country. If we have to work within the system so should everyone else. Immagrants can obtain a work permit or citizenship legally, and they should work within that system just like we have to work within our own (like paying our taxes). I recognize the need for change, but that doesn't mean that in the meantime some of us should operate like that change has already come. I completely understand your frusteration, monolith. I am sorry that alone can't put food on the table for you. =(
I blame the companies who hire them for crappy wages, not the immigrants. Who can blame them? We build up this reputation of "We are the best and richest country in the world and our poorest poor is still richer than yours" type of crap and show them all this material crap, and we complain when they want what the americans rub in their faces. So they come here looking for work in the "Land of Opportunity" and they get really low wages. If they paid everyone equally, like they should, then you and your friends would still have jobs anyway because they would probably want to hire someone with a better grasp on the english language. But the crap of it all is that either way these immagrants are getting screwed. But I think this whole thing about "illegal immagrants" is crap. Why should the government have the right to destroy the very thing our coutnry was built on? Well, I guess they ahve done that with about everything that we built this country on.
That is very true man. They are just looking for work... but my stance on it is that Citizens should be taken care of first. That might come of as bad sounding, but fuck... we pay the taxes, we get harassed by the police...
Yeah man, I guess I have to agree somewhat, but what I am saying is that it isn't the immagrants fault. And when they get rid of the americans and pay the immagrants barely anything for labor, everyone (including immagrants) get screwed EXCEPT for the company. That is capitalism at its WORST, but also exposing its true colors. It is all about greed, no matter WHO gets screwed.