I think Nazis are really cool !!

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  1. spooner

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    It takes more than shitty marching music and a leader with bad moustache to make Faschism cool.
     
  2. Triumph Hurricane

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    well most of those marching music are far better than todays rap music at least they actually could play a instrument and Hitler would had never sent our jobs to China like Clinton and Bush have manage.
     
  3. Woodstock_Blazer

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    Hitler still lives!
     
  4. heron

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    The only thing I admire about the Nazis (of WWII, not the idiot skin heads today) was their Teutonic ancestoral pride. But their application of it was way fucked up, and was a disgrace to the very ancestors they honored.

    SO, as a whole, they were dumbasses, but in micro-evaluation, kind of cool.
     
  5. Triumph Hurricane

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    i saw him in Miami Beach not long ago .
     
  6. Triumph Hurricane

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    of course this dumb asses had combat jets in the air and V-2 rocket and a Nazi rocket designer send us to the moon in 1969 .
     
  7. Triumph Hurricane

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    The Blitzrieg tactics are used by the U.S today with slightly more modern weapons "many develop by the germans" jetfighter, fast moving armor down to the first assault rifle = The MP 44.
     
  8. Triumph Hurricane

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    i agree but thats a totally difrent subject.
     
  9. heron

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    i will give you that lol, yeah their technology was great too.
     
  10. GreasyTony111

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    I'm not really into the whole Nazi thing but it's kind of sad to see that most people smash the German Nazi's yet don't mind using most of their inventions to help better their daily lives? Let alone steal it & call it their own.

    The Nazi's never really did any hate crimes with people of color, which today you ask most people about nazi's they'll talk & probably get the KKK idea's confused with them, even the skin heads do this. I remember I went to a Caravan concert in Germany when I was 16 & their I met a bunch of black Nazi's.

    Anyway, you wonder, since they were so sufficient & did raise a country which was horribly in depression & term oil to a thriving A class nation in a matter of a few years. I some times wonder, what would life be like if the Nazi's won the war, would it be better then what it is now? I mean, unlike a few countries being the riches power how could that be if that one country is the whole world? Maybe their wouldn't be world hunger, or people living in the streets or poor shacks. Maybe it would have been perfect like the nazi's intended the plan would be?

    Just thinking outside the box for a moment.
     
  11. Triumph Hurricane

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    Germans belong to a hard working and smart set of people thats why the jews settle there after they were unwelcome in most other countrys of the european set. pricision was the german trade mark something the british or french never quite accomplish only the swiss in watches . but this 2 vikings tribes are related along with austria. make that 3 tribes of vikings.
     
  12. Triumph Hurricane

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    wait i forgot netherland and finland 1 of this had the heavy water the germans needed to develop the atomic bomb.
     
  13. Triumph Hurricane

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    oopps me bad it was Norway with the heavy water another viking tribe.
     
  14. Triumph Hurricane

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    In January of 1939, the German chemists Otto Hahn and Fritz Strassmann published the results of an historic experiment: after bombarding uranium with neutrons—neutrally charged particles—they found barium, an element roughly half the size of uranium. Their former colleague Lise Meitner, who a few months before had been forced to flee Germany and seek refuge in Sweden, and her nephew Otto Frisch realized that the uranium nucleus had split in two. These revelations touched off a frenzy of scientific work on fission around the world.

    The German "uranium project" began in earnest shortly after Germany's invasion of Poland in September 1939, when German Army Ordnance established a research program led by the Army physicist Kurt Diebner to investigate the military applications of fission. By the end of the year the physicist Werner Heisenberg had calculated that nuclear fission chain reactions might be possible. When slowed down and controlled in a "uranium machine" (nuclear reactor), these chain reactions could generate energy; when uncontrolled, they would be a "nuclear explosive" many times more powerful than conventional explosives.

    Whereas scientists could only use natural uranium in a uranium machine, Heisenberg noted that they could use pure uranium 235, a rare isotope, as an explosive. In the summer of 1940, Carl Friedrich von Weizsäcker, a younger colleague and friend of Heisenberg's, drew upon publications by scholars working in Britain, Denmark, France, and the United States to conclude that if a uranium machine could sustain a chain reaction, then some of the more common uranium 238 would be transmuted into "element 94," now called plutonium. Like uranium 235, element 94 would be an incredibly powerful explosive. In 1941, von Weizsäcker went so far as to submit a patent application for using a uranium machine to manufacture this new radioactive element.

    Researchers knew that they could manufacture significant amounts of uranium 235 only by means of isotope separation. At first German scientists led by the physical chemist Paul Harteck tried thermal diffusion in a separation column. In this process, a liquid compound rises as it heats, falls as it cools, and tends to separate into its lighter and heavier components as it cycles around the column. But by 1941 they gave up on this method and started building centrifuges. These devices use centripetal force to accumulate the heavier isotopes on the outside of the tube, where they can be separated out. Although the war hampered their work, by the fall of the Third Reich in 1945 they had achieved a significant enrichment in small samples of uranium. Not enough for an atomic bomb, but uranium 235 enrichment nonetheless.

    Nearing a Nazi bomb
    Uranium machines needed a moderator, a substance that would slow down the neutrons liberated by chain reactions. In the end, the project decided to use heavy water—oxygen combined with the rare heavy isotope of hydrogen—instead of water or graphite. This was not (as one of the many myths associated with the German nuclear weapons effort had it) because of a mistake the physicist Walther Bothe made when he measured the neutron absorption of graphite. Rather, it appeared that the Norsk Hydro plant in occupied Norway could provide the amounts of heavy water they needed in the first stage of development at a relatively low cost.


    Heisenberg and his colleagues did not push as hard as they could have to make atomic bombs.



    The Norwegian resistance and Allied bombers eventually put a stop to Norwegian production of heavy water (see Norwegian Resistance Coup and See the Spy Messages. But by that time it was not possible to begin the production of either pure graphite or pure heavy water in Germany. In the end, the German scientists had only enough heavy water to conduct one or two large-scale nuclear reactor experiments at a time.

    By the very end of the war, the Germans had progressed from horizontal and spherical layer designs to three-dimensional lattices of uranium cubes immersed in heavy water. They had also developed a nuclear reactor design that almost, but not quite, achieved a controlled and sustained nuclear fission chain reaction. During the last months of the war, a small group of scientists working in secret under Diebner and with the strong support of the physicist Walther Gerlach, who was by that time head of the uranium project, built and tested a nuclear device.

    At best this would have been far less destructive than the atomic bombs dropped on Japan. Rather it is an example of scientists trying to make any sort of weapon they could in order to help stave off defeat. No one knows the exact form of the device tested. But apparently the German scientists had designed it to use chemical high explosives configured in a hollow shell in order to provoke both nuclear fission and nuclear fusion reactions. It is not clear whether this test generated nuclear reactions, but it does appear as if this is what the scientists had intended to occur.

    Time runs out
    All of this begs the question, why did they not get further? Why did they not beat the Americans in the race for atomic bombs? The short answer is that whereas the Americans tried to create atomic bombs, and succeeded, the Germans did not succeed, but also did not really try.

    This can best be explained by focusing on the winter of 1941-1942. From the start of the war until the late fall of 1941, the German "lightning war" had marched from one victory to another, subjugating most of Europe. During this period, the Germans needed no wonder weapons. After the Soviet counterattack, Pearl Harbor, and the German declaration of war against the United States, the war had become one of attrition. For the first time, German Army Ordnance asked its scientists when it could expect nuclear weapons. The German scientists were cautious: while it was clear that they could build atomic bombs in principle, they would require a great deal of resources to do so and could not realize such weapons any time soon.

    Army Ordnance came to the reasonable conclusion that the uranium work was important enough to continue at the laboratory scale, but that a massive shift to the industrial scale, something required in any serious attempt to build an atomic bomb, would not be done. This contrasts with the commitment the German leadership made throughout the war to the effort to build a rocket. They sunk enormous resources into this project, indeed, on the scale of what the Americans invested in the Manhattan Project.

    Thus Heisenberg and his colleagues did not slow down or divert their research; they did not resist Hitler by denying him nuclear weapons. With the exception of the scientists working on Diebner's nuclear device, however, they also clearly did not push as hard as they could have to make atomic bombs. They were neither heroes nor villains, just scientists working on weapons of mass destruction for Hitler's Germany.
     
  15. Back Door Man

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    what is so cool about them?
    that they murdered jews?
    that they murdered poeople because they were members of unterrasse? under-race?
    they murdered also people of my nation. They killd for nothing.
    Theres another think i wanna say: it makes me sick when i hear that idiots say all germans are nazis. They say german, and the mean nazi, but dont have any idea of what acctualy was there. My other is german. Im half slovene and half german. My gradnfather was in war but i cn tell u this: do u know what do i hear in school about my origins? when i was in fifth grade a teacher said something bad about it. why? because some fuckd up moustache guy hitler had a fuckd up idea and pulled whole germany into shit. The influence of that what happend in WWII is still to be felt today. I know it. Yea, i also got a nickname at school: 'Švab'. (Means 'Kraut').
    You know for this fuckin descrimination i got to thank one person: hitler. He started the whole shit. Most 'nazis' in those times were brainwashed. Now germans have to pay the price. And some idiot skinheads thik thats cool but got no fuckin idea what acctualy WAS in those times- that makes me sick.
     
  16. Triumph Hurricane

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    We murder native american indians enslaves blacks and put americans japanases in concentration camps oh boy we are much better than the SS germans
     
  17. Triumph Hurricane

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    Reta.....d he was speaking of Nazis uniforms ,flags, parades, marching bands not Hitler final solution 2 completly difrent subjects.
     
  18. Triumph Hurricane

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    They say the same about the confederate flag and all the people who lives in Alabama . But we know better is 2006
     
  19. Triumph Hurricane

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    Those retard in your school need to get a life and spend a little more time reading history instead of playing Call of Duty on PC.
     
  20. Nalencer

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    I find it doubtful that Hitler planned it, especially when he was financed by the west. He was likely a pawn, as most dictators are, of the elites. The Rothschilds, Rockefellers, and other elite families funded both sides of the WWII conflict.

    As to the extermination of jews, I'm not sure about that one either. Seems like a shitload of them survived the "death camps" if they were all meant to die. And plus, if it would stand up in a reasonable debate, why is debating it illegal in many European countries? You've probably heard of David irving, who was recently sentenced to three years in an Austrian jail for denying the holocaust. Free speech my ass.
     

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