America: From Freedom to Fascism

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  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    This summer there is an independent documentary film coming out called America: From Freedom to Fascism, which is produced and directed by former Libertarian presidential candidate, Aaron Russo. The movie discusses the private corporation known as the Federal Reserve System, who controls it, and how it is affecting the American people in a country where the government is gaining increasingly totalitarian powers on a seemingly daily basis. Appearing in this documentary is Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, Mike Ruppert, Joe Banister, G. Edward Griffin, and Catherine Austin-Fitts, to name a few.

    Be sure to check out the trailer here at the movie's official webpage:

    http://www.freedomtofascism.com/

    I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THIS!!
     
  2. Angel_Headed_Hipster

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    Looks awesome, it's not coming out in theatres is it?
     
  3. Nalencer

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    I sorta doubt it. They only come out in theatres when the government wants you to see them.
     
  4. Libertine

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    I used to be a Libertarian, now I am a Civil Libertarian.

    I agree with 80% of Libertarianism, but I think they ignore the social issues more than the Liberals and concentrate too highly on private property and trying to get out of paying taxes rather than equal freedom and justice for ALL Americans.

    The government has the PATRIOT ACT, domestic spying, trying to ban gay marriage, the drug war, imprisoning non-violent people and all Libertarians rant about is taxes and how the government regulates the CEOs from making zillions more and abusing the remainder of our public and natural resources.

    If I had to choose a "party", I suppose it would be the Green Party or if the DNC ran someone like Russ Feingold.
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    This isn't about that, though. This couldn't have anything less to do with political affiliations/motivations and what party one belongs to.

    Because the movie was made by a Libertarian, doesn't necessarily mean the movie is "libertarian." To me, the facts are facts. There is no label to be put on them.

    The simple fact is that the Federal Reserve is not federal, nor a reserve. It's a private corporation which is owned by some of the most powerful people in the world, that most people have no idea even exist. These people in turn own the government in which YOU pay taxes to, which are completely unconstitutional and are used to do some terrible things both here and abroad. When people are willing to hand all their rights and liberties (and wealth) over to the state, without question or protest, it's very easy for these governments to become completely fascist and totalitarian without most people even noticing until it's too late.

    It all boils down to a case of freedom vs. enslavement. It's that simple. It has absolutely nothing to do with labels or which political party you belong to. I really hate shit that serves the primary purpose of creating division.

    In case you haven't noticed, the Patriot Act, Iraq war, and domestic NSA spying all ties in with what is talked about in this movie.

    Did you watch the trailer?
     
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/022406_sneak_preview.shtml


    -- IMDB Review:

    Well, the title as it is, I saw the film "America: From Freedom to Fascism"
    tonight in Tucson, Arizona. From the moment it begins it is gripping,
    informative and down right scary! The viewer comes away with an
    understanding that as good as we might be in our day to day lives, we are
    all targets of a runaway government, intent on exerting its power and
    expressing it's will - despite the law.

    Particularly chilling is the interview with a Virginia Beach, VA family
    whose homes and business were raided by the IRS on mere unsubstantiated
    accusations; the victims of Police State authoritarians. Another interview
    with a former IRS Commissioner who, now a high-powered D.C. attorney, can't
    seem to make the connection between Supreme Court decisions on the
    Constitutionality of the Income Tax and how the IRS regards 'voluntary
    compliance' with a law he's unable to articulate. Flustered, the
    commissioner ends the interview abruptly and asks Russo to leave.

    Russo is a bulldog as he prowls halls of government trying to get someone to
    just show him the Law that says a working citizen in the United States owes
    an Income Tax, or just to acknowledge prior Supreme Court rulings on the
    subject. Clips of press conferences and television interviews and news
    cuttings reveal obfuscation, saber rattling and threats but not one answer
    that clearly defines the Law, the statutes or the Tax obligations of
    American citizens.

    Aaron Russo has created a compelling and troubling documentary that indeed
    gives the impression that America has already moved from Freedom to Fascism
    (and defines the terms so the viewer can decide for themselves).

    The film is in the final stages of post-production and upon completion will
    be entered at Cannes in May. It is sure to make the headlines there and open
    more than a few eyes. This film will make an impact on the viewer - It's up
    to the viewer to then make an impact on the state of affairs in American
    government.

    Saturday, January 28, 2006
    America: From Freedom to Fascism. Watch for it.
    I went to see the prescreening of Aaron Russo's latest movie, America: From Freedom to Fascism, at the Hilton Phoenix Airport last night. It was a powerful and engaging film that received a well-deserved standing ovation from the group of about 120 adults in attendance, most of who were over 30.

    The two major topics were the federal income tax and the Federal Reserve. Minor topics were the New World Order, vote fraud, education, government lies, and the police state. The ending contained a call to action that Russo promised will be significantly enhanced in the final edition.

    A couple of members of the audience mentioned in the subsequent Q&A session that they were not aware of most of what was presented. An Arizona State University teacher said her students were largely unaware also.

    The good news is that everyone in the room was apparently persuaded by the testimony given by the members of the Tax Honesty Movement and good folks like G Edward Griffin. The scenes with Irwin Schiff, Joe Banister, John Turner, Sherry Jackson Peel, Larken Rose, Charlie Beale, Bob Schulz, Dave Champion, Vernie Kuglin, and others were particularly powerful and persuasive.
    Bottom line: Aaron Russo has earned his place in the preferred section of Heaven with this film, and the nation owes him a large debt of gratitude for having produced it. Eliciting cheers and tears from the audience, America: From Freedom to Fascism is incredibly moving and effective.

    We should expect to find America: From Freedom to Fascism in theaters this summer. For anyone over the age of reason, including the 67 million Americans who no longer file federal income tax returns, missing this movie will be a costly mistake.

    Watch for it.

    # posted by Mark Yannone : 5:38 PM
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    “AMERICA ---- From Freedom to Fascism” by Aaron Russo

    Michael Moore times TEN

    I saw this film Saturday December 28th in Tucson, AZ. Aaron Russo, Beverly Hills (Hollywood producer) has just completed this majestic documentary film on U.S. history, 1913 to present. A must see for everyone age ten or later.

    Like the showing of Mel Gibson’s film “The Passion” to congregations across America before its formal release, Russo shows this remarkable artistic achievement to selected audiences across the nation.

    Russo won an Emmy in 1978 for “Bette Midler: Ol Red Hair.” In the 1970's he managed Bette Midler in 1979 producing "The Rose" Midler’s first starring role. In the 1980's Russo produced “Trading Places” “Wise Guys” “Teachers”. .

    Russo repeats what Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and Abraham Lincoln said, mirrored against the unfolding of the 16th Amendment and the Federal Reserve Act in 1913. Thomas Jefferson said that private banking will cause the demise of our country. The 1913 corruption in Washington DC got the Federal Reserve Act passed.

    What you see in this film has never been seen before - bits and pieces of this drama have been heard third hand - in real life you see this unbelievable story. Gripping is the interview with a Virginia family that was raided by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) with dogs and drawn guns, based upon an unsubstantiated claim, where the IRS agents forced adolescent girls to dress in their presence.

    You get to see all of the players, including Presidents Clinton and Bush II. See how our Congressmen and Senators know the IRS is a fraud - that wage earner’s income is not taxable. In our Federal Courts see them ignore the law. The IRS Commissioner refuses to be interviewed. Arrest of the film makers is threatened as they wait to interview IRS employees outside the workplace on the public sidewalk. Interviews are seen with resigned IRS officials who confronted their leaders about the IRS fraud. See the discussions with a past IRS Commissioner as he twists on his own words.

    Until now almost everyone thought that this could not possibly go on in our free society.

    A breath of fresh air is seen as Congressman Ron Paul suggests options to reverse this corruptness. Aaron Russo ends with his suggestion effective at the next election.

    You and your family must see “AMERICA —“ .
    # posted by barry : 5:04 PM

    Mark,
    Great commentary on Aaron Russo's latest documentary. The WTP event in Tucson on Saturday with Aaron Russo and Bob Schulz was a resounding success. We packed a 240-seat theater with additional folks standing up in the back. The documentary was very well received and ended with a standing ovation.

    Aaron definitely hit a nerve with this one.
    Terry
    # posted by Anonymous : 10:02 PM

    Standing Room Only In Tucson

    Russo Film Scores Big With Audience

    On to Denver and Austin

    Aaron Russo scored a knockout in Tucson on Saturday.

    A crowd of several hundred packed a Tucson movie theater Saturday afternoon. First they were treated to an advance screening of Aaron Russo’s latest movie, America: From Freedom To Fascism, a powerful and engaging 95-minute film about the problem in America--the loss of freedom.

    Russo’s DVD is a dramatic wake-up call that stirs the full range of emotions. It presents, in an absorbing, credible, and fact-filled fashion, America’s chief domestic problems The film begins by documenting the dual frauds of 1913--the federal income tax and the Federal Reserve system--and covers topics such as the national ID card, human chip implants, vote fraud, government lying and spying, and the New World Order.

    Mark,

    Can you tell me more about 67 million Americans not filing federal income tax? Can you give me a source for that statistic?
    # posted by Paul Elledge : 5:05 PM

    I believe the 67 million statistic is in the movie--or it may have been mentioned in the discussion following the movie. Here are some of the references available on various websites.

    "Internal Revenue Service statistics show that more than 40% of Americans no longer comply with the current tax code." Source

    "The IRS has identified as many as 55 million individuals who have failed to file tax returns." (May 2001) Source

    "In 1998, the Commissioner of Internal Revenue admitted in a public speech that 1 out of 4 Americans had stopped filing tax returns. That’s an epidemic of at least 35 million nonfilers by the IRS’ own admission!" Source

    "According to an IRS report a few years back during the IRS abuse hearings, they said there are more than 60 million nonfilers and delinquent taxpayers." Source
    # posted by Mark Yannone : 9:03 PM

    It is almost imperative that this film be shown in Oklahoma City and Tulsa as soon as possible. Many Oklahomans desire to abolish the IRS and get rid of the state income tax. Many companies have left Oklahoma. The general public deserves to know all the reasons.
    # posted by Anonymous : 5:30 PM

    The Income Tax is not determined by statute but by status. Once you fill out your first 1040 form you become subject to the IRS code and the ATF has the authority to enforce it. You need to know what the 1040 form is all about. And the word LABEL which appears on that form.
    # posted by Anonymous : 6:40 PM

    I saw this movie on Febuary 16 2006 at the Dallas Angelika Film Center. This film is a must see by every American!!! This film must be talked about, please find a way to promote this film. I have requested that Democracynow.org air a story about this movie.

    If you are a listner of democracynow.org please write to them and get Aaron Russo an interviw, so this film can be see by every American.
    If you don't know about democracy now, log on to democracynow.org and get informed about the real news.
    # posted by Anonymous : 11:46 PM

    I am looking foreward to seeing this movie in theatres. I am also looking forward to hearing what the President has to say about this.

    # posted by Anonymous : 10:08 AM
     
  7. MikeE

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    I'm working on an educational Festival in May. How would I get a copy of this film to show?
     
  8. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    It is coming out in theatres this summer. I am not sure how many theatres will feature it, but I know there are many smaller, independent theatres across the country that will definitely feature it.

    Heck, it's even going to be featured at the Cannes Film Festival this May!

    I have the feeling we are going to be hearing a lot more about this movie very soon, which makes me very excited!
     
  9. Pressed_Rat

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    Since it hasn't been released yet, I doubt you will be able to get a copy before May. It probably won't be made available on VHS/DVD until several months after it is released at the theatres this summer.
     
  10. Wicked Penetration

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    Definition of fascism: A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

    Wow, this film must be right! A dictator who has to RUN for office, and can only serve a max of 8 years. Stringent socioeconomic controls... guess that means I can't go out and stuff my face at KFC any longer, damn. Supporseeion of the opposition through terror and censorship. Whaaaaat? Yeah, the news is so censored, they never say anything bad about the government... nothing about hurricanes, low approval ratings, hunting accidents, etc. Nope, totally censored. Policy of belligerent nationalism and racism... wow, yes, there is so much racism going on in America its horrible. I've seen THOUSANDS of arab americans being shot in the streets for being arab! omg

    /major sarcasm off
     
  11. Pointbreak

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    Why are you repeating this lie?
     
  12. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Because any educated person knows it's true. I wouldn't expect a neocon that defends the corrupt government tooth and nail, such as yourself, to understand this. So why don't you just go worship the government some more?
     
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    A dictator who cheated to get into office, and a party which can rule for an unlimited amount of time.



    Go ahead and stuff your face all you want, get fat and lazy, why would a dictator stop you from doing that?

    Not the news, the opposition. People like congresswoman Cynthia McKinney. Heard of her and her plight? And the news still distracts you from the real issues, as close as they seem to be to them.


    Racism is still everywhere, especially in America. Just casue they aren't being shot, doesn't mean they aren't being persecuted. Seems to me a lot of it is fueled by the government too.
     
  14. Wicked Penetration

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    Only going to comment on the first bit - he didn't cheat to get into office, and as far as I'm concerned its nothing but sour grapes that people sit back and constantly say that he did. If Kerry or Gore had won, the liberals would be so happy, they wouldn't even think that anything could have been rigged because their candidate was the only proper choice. But because he lost, the elections had to have been rigged.

    Second, the party can only rule for as long as the people keep them in power. Currently, whether liberals like it or not, the majority of American's like the conservative attitudes a lot more then liberal.

    That can always change... it has nothing to do with fascism, it has to do with the current views of the *silent* majority.
     
  15. Pointbreak

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    But its just one of those things that's true because its true because its true. Whenever I ask you about it, you get angry and can't answer my questions, which only makes you more convinced that its true because Alex Jones can't be laughing all the way to the bank that he has suckers like you sending him $39.99 for a subscription to bullshitplanet.com, no that's just too far fetched. Why would anyone want to con people to make money? Its just too far fetched for Rat to imagine.

    So for the record, monetary policy is made by the FOMC, not the regional reserve banks. The FOMC is appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. It is an independent Government agency, and subject to the Freedom of Information Act. Rat cannot disprove this, so he always resort to the smokescreen argument, which means that he can't prove anything but its true because its true.
     
  16. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    The fact is, when you control the money, you control everything! You control the people who make the monetary policy, and you control the President who appoints the FED chairman. Apparently you are too dense to grasp this! Seems like you are incapable of accepting anything that isn't sold at face value.

    Just because the President appoints the FED chairman, does not make the FED federal. It is anything but. It's only to dupe people like you, who think that because a mentally defective person like Bush appoints the FED chairman, then the FED must be federal. The fed is not federal, nor has it ever been. It is a PRIVATE CORPORATION, owned by a handful of central banking families. You refuse to accept this when it is FACT!
     
  17. paintingjames

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    i am so god damn tired of this shabby ass gov't stealing my hard earned money
     
  18. Pointbreak

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    This is empty rhetoric which doesn't prove your case any more than it proves mine.
    Now your argument has taken a loop - does the Fed control the money supply or does the money supply control the Fed? Please try to make sense, it would help.
    Alex Jones is laughing at you. How does that feel?
    But you don't actually explain why not, you just say so. This is because you don't know why, and are just repeating what you have been told to think. In fact when you talk about "The Fed" it is obvious you don't even understand the difference between the regional federal reserve banks, the Board of Governors, and the FOMC.

    The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve is a Federal Agency. It is subject to legislation like the Freedom of Information Act, which covers Federal Agencies and not private corporations. The BoG is appointed by the Federal Government. It is Federal.
    That's not what I said. There are many reasons the Fed is Federal. Bush is irrelevant, he didn't create the Federal Reserve System.
    Again, you are just repeating this as if that makes it true. Lame.
    Like I said, its obvious you don't even know what "the Fed" is. The Federal Reserve Banks are private corporations, although not in the normal sense. But the Board of Governors and the FOMC are not private corporations, and they are the ones that control the money supply. You can go around in circles all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that the regional reserve banks don't control monetary policy. And despite the fact that shareholding of the Regional Federal Reserve Banks is therefore irrelevant to monetary policy, it is worth noting the RFRBs are not controlled by a small number of families, in fact the shareholding is quite fragmented, because ownership of shares in mandatory for member banks.
    Capital letters do not make things fact.
     
  19. paintingjames

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    he said because people like bush, not bush, who appoint the fed chairman...you could do a lot of the neccessary explanations to yourself by reading the feekkkin explanations because you're missing the point, every time (it's true, your name says it all).
    If the board of governers and FOMC are not private corporations then what are they? this is a serious question.
     
  20. Pointbreak

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    yes, i'm missing the point that everything is a conspiracy, and the facts don't matter. i always seem to miss that point.

    the BoG is a government agency, like the postal service or the SEC. It is owned by the federal government.
     
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