About creation.

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by WhisperingWoods, Mar 7, 2006.

  1. WhisperingWoods

    WhisperingWoods too far gone

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    There are people out there who believe that.. say.. the dinosaurs were not real. Like, some god figure placed the old fossils in the ground, itself. Why do they argue this? Because the existence of dinosaurs contradicts scripture if you take it literally.

    That said, if a god created the earth with stuff already placed here to trick mankind and make us question a god's existence, I have a little idea. What if a god made the world.. 200 years ago? All the people who would have lived then are dead by now. Most of the people who were alive 100 years ago are also dead. This god they believe in could have created the world with an infinite amount of evidence that the world existed for millions of years, and just placed all this stuff here along with men of varying ages with false memories of their pasts. There could have been a point at which they just sort of wake up, "remember" and take on their predetermined roles.

    Do you get what I'm saying? By their fundamentalist logic, we could say that everything was created X years ago, regardless of whether it makes sense or not.

    It's ludicrous.
     
  2. revolution_time

    revolution_time Member

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    hey man, i agree with you. i argued with that exact same point, and the women i was arguing with told me satan could have put the dinosaur bones in the ground to trick man kind. it's kind of freaky when people have THAT much devotion to anything.
     
  3. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Feh.

    The world was not created 13 billion years ago.

    Nor was it created 10,000 years ago.

    Nor 200 years ago.

    As a matter of fact, the world was created at the same time this post was.

    With all prior memories, evidence, and state of the world, created exactly how it is now.

    You have memories of a past that you have never lived.

    ^_^

    But what if that was true?
     
  4. MaryJane69

    MaryJane69 Member

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    I love the Christians who don't believe in dinosaurs. They make me laugh.

    I found a hilarious Christian website going into explanation on how the dinosaurs were never real, I wish I could find it now.
     
  5. Peter Popper

    Peter Popper Tripper

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    religion, christians... are soo silly they make me feel sick... so stupid, so naive, to me, its as if they still belive in santa clause...
    like, when i was 10, my rationality kicked in, and the thought of Santa flying, coming through your chimney becomes silly, thus you stop beleiving.... whats the difference with "god". just the same with santa, i stopped beliving in god...

    its called rationality, people.... common sense, i think those bastards need to go back to 12'th grade chemistry and Biology...

    im just that much against it, i cant stop talking about it... i HAte it sooo much..
    it seems that people who dont belive in god talk more about god than people who do belive, have you ever realised that?
     
  6. Erasmus70

    Erasmus70 Banned

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    Good News everyone.. I found the 'Complete and utter fucking Moron' thread with easily the stupidest made up shit ever ''hahha.. some christians are so dummy dummy they pretend dinosaurs arent real'

    Grow up you fucking moron and try having a fucking brain past that of a retarded 12 year old.
    (apologies to retarded 12 year olds)

    Did you even think of Behemoth or Leviathon?
    Huge Megafauna, massive reptilian sea creatures.
    Hmmm
    Where is that 'cwazy talk' from?
    The BIBLE YOU IDIOT.
    The very descriptions of FUCKING DINOSAURS in the Old Testament was LAUGHED AT BY MORONS LIKE YOU until surprise, surprise.... massive fossilised bones of such creatures have been found.

    And since your being a huge fucking idiot - do you care to know what a FOSSILISED bone is all about?
    Its found in SEDIMENTARY LAYERS.
    SEDIMENT.
    Thats 'Mud' to you idiot.

    You people are the exact reason why Atheism is such a raving joke nowadays.
    "Chwistians pwetend there are no dinosaurs.. they are so dumbhead eh"
    Idiot.
     
  7. Kris?

    Kris? Senior Member

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    Erasmus, most of that I agree with however ifyou take out the cursing and name calling they may take it more seriously.
     
  8. Erasmus70

    Erasmus70 Banned

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    I got a little bit over-the-top on that and I would like to be clear - retarded 12 year olds are not fucking morons.
    They have a bloody good reason for being that way.
    Other people.. wow.
    If your going to make a feeble 'strawman' to defeat then for crying out loud... put some EFFORT into it people!
    Something!
     
  9. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Erasmus

    Then argue on the 'New Church' thread.

    Intead of talking childishly to those u call children
    [ a contradiction..no?]

    Occam
     
  10. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    Erasmus, there really are people out there that think dinosaurs never existed. I have heard the argument from people myself. The "Satan put those fossils there to trick us" argument was given to me by a church member. It is funny, and that's what people in this thread are talking about. No one said ALL christians, not even MOST christians. None of us think, or implied that we think, it is a christian tenet of some sort.

    And Erasmus, we all have an excuse for our actions, right...we are godless morons who aren't smart enough to take the bible for it's word. What I would like to know is - what is your excuse? Give me your excuse for the cursing, disrespect, the childish insults and poor display of christ. You are the smarter, better than us christian, right?

    Truthfully, it seems to me that christianity (or just maybe your genetics...) has made an idiot out of you. I mean, you are in general the only one acting like a complete raving idiot in these threads...we just enjoy the irony that it is also your favorite thing to call us.

    Calling people morons over and over again doesn't make them morons. However, acting like a moron over and over again (Erasmus), does.
     
  11. WhisperingWoods

    WhisperingWoods too far gone

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    Holy fuck, man.. Settle down with your OT shit. I don't care what your personal beliefs are, or what book you claim to follow, I was just commenting on the people who actually believe stuff like that. You've read something incorrectly if you're deeply insulted. Did I even mention christianity? NO! The greeks wrote stories of giant creatures too, but I don't see anybody using greek mythology as a literal history book any more than they do a middle-eastern text.
     
  12. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    It'll be funny when God changes the "laws of the universe" to make "science" into nothing but a silly mythos based on beings called quarks...
     
  13. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    What, do you guys sit around and chat about the future or something? [​IMG]
     
  14. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Yes. I basically say "You could do this, that would be cool" and God says "No, it wouldn't."
     
  15. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    i alway marvel at those who deny earth's five and a half or more billions of years yet eat pizza and chew gum, niether of which are mentioned in their scripture either.

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  16. Erasmus70

    Erasmus70 Banned

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    I always marvel at those who believe in insanely long earth ages like 'Billions of Years'.
    nothing to do with gum though.. I just marvel at how people think thats possible. (rather, believe it because someone told them its a 'fact')
     
  17. Kris?

    Kris? Senior Member

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    Yeah I could see that working over well.

    Jesus:pizzia is good!

    Peter:What the crap is pizzia?

    Jesus: AH! Go chew some gum Peter.

    Peter: God? Whats gum?

    Jesus: Never mind.
     
  18. Peter Popper

    Peter Popper Tripper

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    ok christians... if your trully christian you belive there are no such thing as dinosaurs... You cant believe parts of the religion and then tell yourself you dont whant to belive other parts... you have to accept the whole fucking package...



    Honestly it seems as though the worst people are christian... its the people who go to church you have to watch out for... im not kidding...
    it helps them cope with the crimes they do, the people they kill... HAaha. but seriosly though, what do you guys think?
     
  19. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    You're a total dumbass if you believe that this is true.

    I know plenty of Christians that believe in the Bible metaphorically, not literally.

    CATHOLICS take it literally. Not all Christians do so.

    Do you want me to lie, or be honest:

    Lie: I think you're a dumbass.

    Truth: I think you're just a little more moronic than that. With your generalizations, hatred, and prejudice ... I'm surprised that YOU aren't Christian.
     
  20. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Erasmus

    Goodness me.. someone who believes in hundreds of years.
    Thousands of years.
    But millions..hmmmm And Billions are INSANE?

    Occams daughter at age ten once asked what a creationist
    was. She had read about it being people who believed that
    everything [reality] was created by a god only several thousands
    of years ago.

    "Thats about it" replied occam.

    "Thats stupid" she replied.

    And occam can add nothing to that but unequivocal agreement
    [or "yep" as he did at the time]

    Occam

    Question: "what are the two most abundant elements in the universe?"
    Answer: "Hydrogen...And human stupidity"
     

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