The Call for Prayer doesn’t stop 24 Hours a Day (wanna know how?)

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  1. catstevens

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    Hi everyone, I hope you are all fine and happy today and everyday, Amen

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    A researcher in mathematics in the UAE has reached a genius equation confirming the inimitability of The Creator (the great and almighty) in promoting the call of truth 24 hours a day. The researcher said in his study: “the call for prayer which is the Islamic call to the worship of praying doesn’t stop around the clock in the earth; once it is finished in an area, it starts in another!!!”

    The researcher “Abd Al-Hameed Al-Fadel” explained his idea by explaining that the earth is divided into 360 longitudes which determine the time in each area. Each longitude is separated from the following one by exactly 4 minutes. The origin in the call for prayer that it starts in it’s exact time and the Caller is supposed to perform it well in 4 minutes.

    To make the picture more obvious, let’s assume that the call to prayer starts now in the area at longitude 1 and lasts 4 minutes. When the 4 minutes are finished it will start in the area at longitude 2; when done, it will start at longitude 3 then 4….And so on, the call for prayer never stops all the day long on earth.

    This can be confirmed in a simple equation:

    4× 360(longitude) = 1440 minutes.

    1440÷ 60 (minutes) = 24 hours.

    The source: a research by researcher Abd Al-Hameed Al-Fadel.

    Translated by: Bayan Taleb
    To Read a very relevant article Click here

    What do you think brothers?, Subhanallah [​IMG]Congratulations you are a Muslim anyway

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    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens

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  2. Asadullah

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    Alhamduilah!
     
  3. catstevens

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    Asadullah
    Yeah, Alhamdulilah brother, the best grace ever is that we are Muslims, Oh! you're new here, welcome brother to hipforums, [​IMG]
    BTW: I call myself asadullah too [​IMG]but why did you choose it?
    May Allah bless you
    Peace and love
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
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  4. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Are you saying that prayer time is determined by longitude rather than time zones? There are 24 time zones... each an hour apart.
     
  5. Phrensied Rabbits

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    I'm pretty sure the calculation is based on the angle of the sun, not on time zone.
    (which obviously is a much broader measurement of the sun's position, there being on a few)
    Not that I spent very long studying the mathematics of it, though, you know? ^_^

    maybe it'd actually be good for all of us to really learn some methods of calculating salat times for ourselves...it might be interesting. hehe
     
  6. Phrensied Rabbits

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    oh yeah, I remember what I wanted to ask now.
    haha
    uh,~ are there really that many brothers and sisters living in those pretty empty time zones in the pacific?

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    grouve on, you guys
     
  7. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    myself I didn't pay attention concerning thelongitude, what attracted me in the article is “the call for prayer which is the Islamic call to the worship of praying doesn’t stop around the clock in the earth; once it is finished in an area, it starts in another!!!” I looked at the article in other side, that's why I asked what do you think at the end of my thread, There are Muslims in Africa, Asia, Australia, etc, that means there are mosques which means the call for prayer which should be done five times a day, in a one city of Egypt only, there are I think more than thousand mosques, I don't remember the name of the city, if you go there these thousand mosques don't start the call together nor finish together, actually after the call of prayer after few seconds or minutes they start to repeat the same thing in the call for prayer which is called (Iqamat Assalah) also they don't start together nor finish together, this is only in one city in Egypt! if you are in Egypt the call for prayer in Cairo doesn't start at the same time in other city in Egypt, Also if we will add the Nafilah prayers which isn't obligatory, you say the call for prayer but without using the microphone its time isn't the same time for the five prayers. once I saw an interview with a man he said that he was in the forest I don't remember the interview very well, he heard a voice, that voice was for a Muslim man who was living alone I think in the forest, Although I think that there wasn't a mosque there, he was doing the call for prayer 5 times a day!, maybe this thing happens in the month of Ramadan because people pray al-Taraweeh prayers they repeat (the iqamat of assalah) which is similar to the call for prayer, every mosque has his own time for performing Al-taraweeh, I think if I imagine that in the other worlds which includes mosques and Muslims it is acceptable and possible somehow, but possible for not the call, rather performing the prayer (Islamic prayer) Also, there are Tahajud prayer and night prayer etc, Also, Muslims do the prayer even if they are on the plane when it is the time of praying, I read once that some planes of the Islamic countries have a space on the plane for prayer, one of my Muslim brothers sent a comment on this article to the website to know what do they mean exactly, Allah knows best.

    Peace and love[​IMG]

    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens

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  8. Erasmus70

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    Followers of Jesus Christ might remember when He took humanity to a level beyond 'religious rituals' to the reality of spirituality.
    Pointing out how the religious would fast and show off their religious piety in public and how they would follow 'rituals' or 'repeating prayers'.
    Jesus pointed out that the importance and value of prayer was between us and God.
    To just speak to God and not do so as some 'chore' or 'action' that is repeated and for outward appearances.

    Islam returns takes us back to the days of 'religious rituals' for the sake of doing them, for the sake of following a law.
    Just like the Pharisees, the most legalistic Muslims (well its all legalism) really show how holy they can be by demonstrating a 'Prayer Welt' or 'Bruise'.

    Catstevens has a picture of the real Cat Stevens (Yousif Islam now?) with a bruise on his forehead.
    That tells others he 'really really does religious obligations really really hard'.

    Here is a famous Muslim with a much admire Prayer Bruise:
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    That proves he is really really really Muslim!

    Dont worry, even Christians have done a good job in taking Jesus example of a prayer that is spontaneous and sincere and what do we do... we turned it into a repetative 'chant' or 'formula' to be parroted!!!
    Wow.

    Jesus: 2,000 years later and STILL way ahead of the times!
     
  9. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    Good point, I really doubt it.
     
  10. cabdirazzaq

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    Good question
     
  11. catstevens

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    No he didn't he took them to the level where there is religious rituals and reality of spirituality, Moses brought Torah which includes the both things, Matthew 5.17: Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets, i.e. he remained them.

    No they aren't showing off, they are following the teachings of their religion,
    Prayer:
    Q: the way Muslims worship Allah with ablution, bowing, kneeling, prostration and fasting is strange to non-Muslims, but not strange to all of the prophets. While ablution (washing of face, arms, and moistening of the hair) prior to worship is not done by modern Christians, it is required of Muslims and previous prophets, as seen in the following biblical passages:
    Exodus 40:31-32: "And Moses and Aaron and his sons washed their hands and their feet thereat; When they went into the tent of the congregation, and when they came near unto the altar, they washed; as the Lord commanded Moses." Although Paul made many changes in Jesus' teaching, he was faithful in respect to ablution, as seen in Acts 21:26: "Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple'..." Muslim women perform their prayer with their head covered, as in I Corinthians 11:5-6, 13: "But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonourerh her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.... Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered" Muslims worship with bowing, kneeling, prostration, and without shoes 1 , as was done by previous prophets: Psalms 95:6: "O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the Lord our maker"; Joshua 5: 14: "And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship''; I Kings 18:42: "And Elijah went up to the top of Carmel; and he cast himself down upon the earth, and put his face between his knees"; Numbers 20:6: "... and they [Moses and Aaron] fell upon their faces: and the glory of the Lord appeared upon them"; Genesis 17:3: "And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying ...", and Exodus 3:5 and Acts 7:33: "And he [God] said [to Moses], 'Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground."'
    Let's pray Erasmus, welcome to our Masjid =)
    Fast:
    Matthew 4:1-2: Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil. After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry.
    Mark 2:15-18: They said to him, "John's disciples often fast and pray, and so do the disciples of the Pharisees
    Have you ever fasted?

    Do you think that Jesus and , disciples of John and Pharisees, and the former prophets like Moses and Aaron etc were Pointing out how the religious would fast and show off their religious piety in public and how they would follow 'rituals' or 'repeating prayers'?

    Yes dude, you know after all these corruptions and after Paul's cancellation of the Law, Allah revealed his last Book which he promised to protect this time from corruption, he told us that the Law is still there, he didn't cancel it [​IMG]

    No dear brother,
    Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) stated: {God does not judge you according to your appearance and your wealth, but He looks at your hearts and looks into your deeds.} Sahih Muslim #2564
    Quraan: Those who spend (in Allah's Cause - deeds of charity, alms, etc.) in prosperity and in adversity, who repress anger, and who pardon men; verily, Allah loves Al-Muhsinoon (the good doers) - Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan wrote the following as a footnote for this verse: good doers: Doers of good, those who perform good deeds totally for Allah's sake only without any show-off or to gain praise or fame.
    Sahih Bukhari: Narrated `Umar bin Al−Khattab: I heard Allah's Apostle saying,
    "Deeds (their correctness and rewards) depend upon intentions, and every person gets but what he has intended. So whoever emigrated for worldly benefits, or for a woman to marry, his emigration is for what he emigrated for."
    What is the benefit if someone prays five times a day, not because God commanded that but for something else!
    Quraan: Verily, We have sent down the Book to you (O Muhammad) in truth: So worship Allah (Alone) by doing religious deeds sincerely for Allahs sake only, (not to show-off)
    I continue in other post…
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
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  12. catstevens

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    Oh man! How did you know that? When did you see? Why you didn't stop me when you saw me to talk or chat and to know each other more! =) where did you see me, do you live in UK?

    Or maybe he hurt himself with something or somebody caused that to him [​IMG], [​IMG]or yeah, he really prays a lot not to show-off but because he likes to do so, he likes to talk to Allah =)

    Are you sure because of prayer, I know someone who has it but not because of prayer, he was injured. *seriously*

    Do you think that this is a proof!! I don't think so, many people wear the cross just as a style I think! Because their behavior disagrees with Christianity.

    see you said: we turned it…, actually Paul turned many facts and Jesus' teachings to other things, Jesus (pbuh) stated: John 12.49: For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it. John 14.24: He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me. John 8:28-29: So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am the one I claim to be and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me. The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases him."
    Jesus stated that he didn't come to cancel the law, Jesus was following the law, he was praying as God commanded him and as the former prophet did, a Muslim should pray according to the Islamic fashion not Christian or Hindu fashion,
    Sahih Bukhari: Narrated Malik: The Prophet stated:, "Pray as you have seen me praying" Christians changed it and not prying as Jesus did, and this unacceptable because you should pray as the prophets did, because they didn't choose such fashion, no, Allah told them and they follow his teachings, we should do the same, otherwise, this is called innovation,
    Quraan: Indeed in the Messenger of Allah (Muhammad) you have a good example to follow for him who hopes for Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah much.
    Allah sent prophets to be examples for us to follow, to show us how to pray, how to do such and such, etc
    I already quoted in post 11 from the bible some verses which points that the former prophet's fashion of praying is very similar to the Islamic one; you have to pray in such way, dear brother.
    Deuteronomy 6:18: Do what is right and good in the LORD's sight, so that it may go well with you and you may go in and take over the good land that the LORD promised on oath to your forefathers
    Quraan: It is not for a believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Apostle to have any option about their decision: if any one disobeys Allah and His Apostle, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path.
    Have a nice, peaceful and faithful day.
    And next time whenever you see me, talk to me, OK
    Don't worry I won't bite you [​IMG]
    Peace and love =)
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
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  13. catstevens

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    Addition:
    I found a relevant Article
    But before that I'd like to clarify some things before you read the Article:
    Relevant linkè (very short)
    *Muslims call for prayer (Azan= the call for prayer) five times a day at fajr (dawn)-Zohar (noon)Asar (mid-afternoon)- Maghrib (sunset)- Isha (night)
    *Muâazzins (the people who call for prayer)
    * mosques don't start the call for prayer together nor finish together, actually after the call of prayer after few seconds or minutes they start to repeat the same thing in the call for prayer which is called (Iqamat Assalah) also they don't start together nor finish together

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    By Shahid Bin Waheed

    Azaan: is an incredible medium for the proclamation of Tawheed (Oneness of God) of Almighty Allaah and Risalaat (Prophethood) of Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam, this Islaamic prayer call (sounding words) to Muslims, which constantly echoes around the globe five times every day.

    Amazing though it sounds, but fortunately for the Muslims of the world, it is an established fact. Have a look at a map of the world and you will find Indonesia (an Islaamic country) right on the eastern side of the earth. Indonesia consists of numerous small islands, the principle ones amongst them being Java, Sumatra, Borneo and Saibil, all of which are well known. It is the largest country in the world, with 180 million inhabitants. ​



    As soon as dawn breaks on the eastern side of Saibil, at approximately 5:30 am local time, Fajr Azaan begins. Thousands of Muâazzins in eastern Indonesia commence proclaiming the Tawheed (oneness) of the Almighty, Omnipotent and Omniscient Allaah and Risalaat (Universal Apostleship) of the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam.

    The process then continues and advances towards the Western Islands of Indonesia. The time difference between the eastern and western islands of Indonesia is one and a half hours. Hence, one and a half hours after the Azaan has been completed in Saibil, it echoes in Jakarta on Java Island. Sumatra then follows suit and before this auspicious process of calling Azaan ends in Indonesia, it has already begun in Malaysia. Burma is next in line, and within an hour of its commencement in Jakarta, it reaches Dacca, the capital city of Bangladesh. No sooner the calling of Azaan ends in Bangladesh, it has already prevailed in western India, from Calcutta to Srinagar. It then advances towards Bombay and the environment of entire India resounds with this august proclamation.

    Srinagar and Sialkot (a city in north Pakistan) have the same timing for Azaan. The time difference between Sialkot, Kota, Karachi and Gowadar (a city in Baluchistan, a province of Pakistan) is forty minutes, and within this time, Fajr (Dawn) Azaan is heard throughout Pakistan. Before it ends there, however, it has already begun in Afghanistan and Muscat. The time difference between Muscat and Baghdad is one hour. Azaan resounds during this one hour in the environments of Hijaaz-e-Muqaddas (Holy cities of Makkah and Madinah), Yemen, United Arab Emirates, Kuwait and Iraq.

    The time difference between Baghdad and Alexandria in Egypt is again one hour. Azaan continues to resound in Syria, Egypt, Somalia and Sudan during this hour. Alexandria and Istanbul are situated on the same geographical longitude. The time difference between eastern and western Turkey is one and a half hours, and during this time it is echoed with the call to prayer.

    Alexandria and Tripoli (capital of Libya) are located at an hour of difference from one another. The process of calling Azaan thus continues throughout the whole of Africa. Therefore, the proclamation of the Oneness of Allaah and the Prophethood of Muhammad Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam that had begun in the eastern islands of Indonesia reaches the Eastern Shore of the Atlantic Ocean after nine and a half hours.

    Prior to the Azaan reaching the shores of the Atlantic, the process of ZoharAzaan has already commenced in eastern Indonesia, and before it reaches Dacca, Asar Azaan has started. This has hardly reached Jakarta one and half hours later, and then the time of Maghrib becomes due, and no sooner has Maghrib time reached Sumatra, then the time for calling Isha Azaan has commenced in Saibil! When the Muâazzins of Indonesia are calling out Fajr Azaan, the Muâazzins in Africa are calling out the Azaan for Isha.

    If we were to ponder over this phenomenon seriously and studiously, we would conclude the amazing fact that: 'There is not a single moment when thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Muâazzins around the world are not proclaiming the Oneness of Almighty Allaah and the Prophethood of the noble Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam on the face of this earth!' Insha Allaah, this Azaan (universal call) for five times everyday will continue till the Day of Judgment, AMEEN.


    Muslims recite and hymn the glory of the God in their prayers five times a day, during the war, in their prayers calls five times a day, during the month of Ramadan, during their two Eids, during their Hajj (pilgrimage to Makkah for ten days each year) including all along the route and during their sojourn to Mina, Muzdalfa, and Arafaat and while circumambulating the Kaa’bah declaring the Greatness and Majesty of the God (Allaah).

    What do you think? I think it is somehow similar to my opinion in post 7, However, Allah knows best.
    The matter is , respond the call :)
    You can hear the (AZAN =ADAN) by Yusuf Islam clickèAZAN
    Have a nice, peaceful and faithful day
    Peace and love

    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens

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