oh lordie, fallin off the vegan wagon!

man, i've been vegan for about four years. perhaps twice a year i'll have a small slice of organic goat cheese. keeps me in line. but i've just moved and my roommates buy this beautiful organic cheese...lots of cheese. i ate some for two days straight and don't want any more, but i'm sorta discusted with myself. in the past, my goat cheese meals have been premeditated and a helpful way to keep me on track. but the last couple days (i'm over it now) all i could think was cheese cheese cheese! and i ate some cake with who knows what in it...geez!
ladies - if you get this - i think it might be synomyous (sp?) to the chocolate craving. i just feel like a big gluttonous pig!

at any rate, i'm back on track; i'm not forcing myself in any particular direction - i was very content in my vegan lifestyle. it's not a weight issue, but it does bring up health and moral concerns for my gluttonous self.

anyone have similar stories?

 

Yes, right now my roommates have semi-sweet non vegan chocolate chips...
I can't stop munching on them.

 

Eh ...

If I know something isn't vegan, I won't eat it, no matter what.

Sometimes, things slip up and I'll find out that those non-chicken nuggets I was eating have egg in them, or something of the sort.

But, I'd imagine that, if you voluntarily eat something that you know isn't vegan, you can't call yourself a vegan. No offense.

 

Anyone who eats only four slices of goat's cheese in two years, in my books, is a vegan.

There's no need to be completely anal about following through on your moral commitments... no offence ... I think that is the main thing that turns "meat eaters" contre veggies.

So long as you live up to your beliefs, and can visualise your chosen path as a series of landmarks rather than a high-wire, you can be happy knowing that you are on the track towards what you see as being right.

You CAN be more easily content as a non-perfect, but properly orientated person. (I think )

take care
tom

 

Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like, that's the kind of dedication you need. It is, as you said, a commitment, after all ... I mean, if you made a new years resolution to stop drinking, and then a year later you get drunk a couple of times, I'd have to say that you've broken your resolution. Or if you, say, sin only a couple times in your life; are you not a sinner? And similarly, when a person says "I've been vegan since ____ (date)," that infers that they haven't voluntarily eaten any animal products since that date. But, if you have ... can you still say you've been vegan for that long? It just doesn't seem right; it seems like calling yourself celibate for two years, but you had sex twice a few months ago ...

I definitely sympathize with the non-perfect "everybody makes mistakes" part ... I'm sure I've eaten animal products since I've been vegan, but not if I could help it ... I never ate them willingly. And to me, that's what makes the difference between being vegan and non-vegan.

(Not to bash the O.P. or anyone else, it's definitely a great thing that you have been vegan for as long as you have, and I totally support it!)

 

So I would have to agree with you on the technicalities... although in the same respect it is difficult to call the OP a non-vegan.

Can we both agree then that your mistakes arn't what's important, but rather the good that you have already accomplished...

And labelling yourself as a vegan for "THIS LONG" has in turn lost all relevance

 

Quite true. I don't know if I would call the O.P. a non-vegan even if I wouldn't readily call him/her a vegan. I mean, 2 years is still quite an accomplishment; I haven't gotten that far yet myself. And no vegan is ever perfectly vegan either ...

And yes, I totally agree on the good that's been accomplished being more important than mistakes. Everybody's human, after all, right? =)

 

eh, who gives a flyin donkey?! i don't care. i just call myself a cute chick. i don't tend to go by 'vegan' and i don't hide my occasional cheese consumption. at least i do that consciously, meaning that a) i don't sneak it when everyone's sleeping and b) i buy nice organic non cow cheese which is as good as i can get it.
i don't really care what i call myself or what i'm called, and i know that, too, sounds contrived - this is the "hip" forums afterall and, thus, are 'not' supposed to care about our societal reputations - but i really don't care if i'm a true vegan or not.
i really never did it for the name. it's interesting that it's gotten to that, in this thread. i did it because of the varied reasons i didn't want to ingest animal - but y'know? sometimes i eat honey, and have for years (also very little), so i guess, whoops, i'm just a vegetarian! oh well, that's embarassing! i'm being dumb - but really, who cares?
the reason this thread was started - i'm not usually one to give into temptation. i eat how i eat to keep righteous. and now i'm confused about what righteous is in my mind. it's easy to fall into patterns that work, and all of a sudden i've fallen into a new 'pattern' and i liked the old one better. and now i'm just confused. but i'm also very single and i guess every newly single chick goes through an identity issue or two!
(if not cheese, it'd surely be chocolate!)

 

i know vegan chocolate tastes good (whole foods truffles!); i just think i'd (?) rather house a cheese craving than a chocolate one. i really don't like sweets.
oh, whatever. the cheese consumption is over and done with.

 

Can't be too sincere then!! Shurely shome mishtake!!

 

whatdja mean, cor?

drumminmama - now i see what you mean. yeah, vegan cheese is yuk. i'd rather eat none rather than eat that! not to mention, many that one would think to be vegan contain casein, but still...ew.

 

Yeah, that's the one thing that I don't like about being vegan.

Vegan cheese SUCKS. =(

 

What I mean is, that is a bit like a muslim eating 'a small piece of pork twice a year'. Or, its a bit like an animal rights activist receiving treatment for a life threatening illness where the treatment could only have come from research carried out with experimentation on animals. Either you're a vegan, or not. No in between or you'll be accused of being insincere.

 

oh well, i guess i'm being accused then. who cares? i can easily say "i'm mostly vegan, but eat cheese a couple times a year." i'm not saying i'm a vegan so people'll be falsely cued into my lifestyle; i'm sayin i'm a vegan because i basically am. every day, i consciously avoid animal. except the times i choose not to. it's just a label, eh? like i've said before, i'm not hiding it. i can't really see callin myself a vegetarian either, when i so regularly avoid dairy. i guess i'm just NOTHING!! hah, like that? i'll call myself nothing.
so, cor, when someone asks me 'what i am,' (which is rare at that!) i'll say...well, i eat this, i avoid that, sometimes i eat that, i like this, but only eat it if it comes in purple...i'll only eat that if it's on SALE...
come on - get off it. who cares about a label?

 

I stand corrected LOL. Anyhow, I bow down to you for going vegan (or living according to veganism most of the time, or whatever) I am a vegetarian and tried vegan once. I emphasise the word 'once'. Its very difficult at first.