Do you think LSD fucks up the brain's chemistry?

why do you agree with everything she says except the bit that includes cannabis? isnt that willful selection of fact to suit you? what is so radicall different about her oppinions on cannabis that would make you agree with everything but it?

 

I wouldn't bring quantum physics into this discussion, as even those examples, though mostly correct, miss the true meaning (as do most instances of popular quantum mechanics) of what's being discussed. What was mentioned has to do with observation and how that affects what's in the universe. However, for reasons that still plaque physicists, this doesn't apply to macroscopic objects, such as our bodies.

That is making way too much of a jump in logic, and really doesn't have much relevance to this discussion.

 

I've actually changed my mind about agreeing with her opinion on LSD, I'm on the fence now. The reason why I initially agreed with her on LSD but not on cannabis is because I have first-hand experience with it and I have a good understanding about it, but not with LSD. I don't have a good understanding about LSD or it's permanent effects, but she claims she does and has the credentials. Because really, it's professional advice against all your (everyone in this thread) advice.

And trip seeker,

I've been on Paxil and Adderall for a few years now and I can't just tell my psychiatrist and my mother that I'd like to cease taking the medication and try LSD. It's not that simple. I'm very sensitive to changes in doses and everytime I skip taking medication I experience withdrawal symptoms such as lethargy, cloudy thinking, mood swings, complacency, and depression. I've become too dependent on it.

 

I was on a bunch of pills after my parents got divorced. I was 12 at the time. The doctors gave my temporary sadness a "quick fix" it took me a few years of dosing myself off of these pills gradually. I tried cold turkey a few times, i will never go through it again. My point is that doctors in general arent thinking long term. LSD is not habbit forming so the chances of it fucking u up is low compared to what ur doc already has u taking.

 

I voted no, but If you take 800ug every 3 days for a few years, I think your pretty damn likely to run into some trouble.

 

I dont know...For sure it changes brain chemistry, like any drug. And its a very powerful one.

Lsd fucks some people up if they abuse it I just know that. Did it for me after like 7 trips in intervals of 10 days

 

yeah cuz shit gets intense, those insights, reflexions, become really wacko stuff. Lsd is also if not more, awesome, when you are in a moderate psychotic break. Its just more full of understanding and all, but its very irrational stuff, and you dont realize it is...

haha nirvana yeah...ill take lsd if I want that but theres the price to pay to have taken myself to this point, with help of chemical...its the normal way of life...It would just fuck me up more, ive learned enough i can continue this in this world, but lets trip.

haha has anyone's smile change since youve been doin psychedelics...Do you have like the chink eyed smile, that only needs a few toothless spots to make up a stereotype?

 

^^ i love that smile

 

No.

 

Good post dude

saying that antidepressants are worst than lsd is really fucked up, i think. lol...ridiculous....i mean I feel way better on antidepressants, more energy, more hunger more motivation , less anxiety, merrier, more outgoing...and I can go off em if i feel like it, cuz say, im tired of not being able to drink, so ill stop for a few months, and usually I see the meds even when theres no more in my blood, it has given me a good start, of a without med life. It can give you a better start in life, as lsd.

But I guess using lsd two times a month and no other drugs , would have much less negative impact on someone than smoking weed a few times everyday.

 

from a neurochemical standpoint, no...unless you abuse the fuck out of it.

you're more likely to alter your brain chemistry drinking coffee every morning of your 40-year 9-to-5 work routine.

 

HAHAHA are you nuts....do you think drugs dont affect your body at all...I dont think youve known a person that takes it habitually for a long time....because if you did youd say yes

You said no....but yet have Syd Barret in your sig picture....look at what happend to him it wasnt because he was solber



Use in moderation is fine....its when you use it regularly your brain tends to fry

 

LSD does not fuck up your brain chemistry, at all, period, Any problems anyone might actually have are psychological. The only body damage that was serriously considered to be caused by LSD for a while was chromosome damage, but this was shown not to be true.(I think it's safe to say though that any drug when taken will upset some part of your body chemistry for a while, otherwise it would have no effect)

And no, your weed has never been laced with LSD.

 

They have done tests on lsd.......BUT NOT ENOUGH......those are only some theorys.....in order to know what it really does to us...scientist would have to study the chemical again not only study it for a small amount of time, but they cant because its illeagal......

It doesnt matter wheter or not it damages your chromosomes or fuck with your brain chemestry it still fucks with the most important thing in your body bottom line....

You must accept this......

Its like saying "i smoke cigarettes but i wont get lung cancer".....

Using in excessiveness is the only time ive seen problems with people.....

 

It does, but that's psychological, it's almost like shell shock, you expose the mind to much and you just can't take it anymore.

 

my mum says it too, the people who took acid all teh time got fried.

but i doubt most people here consider taking enough to fry themselves on.

 

OK KIDS, time for school...

My studies involve actually taking what I speak about, so she can blow me (if I let her)....

I will make several points here, and this will probably be a pretty long post.

Just so you can understand my age/time frame, let me just say that after Abbie Hoffman died, Anita and America used to stay with us in Santa Monica...look 'em up young un's...LOL...anyway...

Your "fragile brain chemistry" comes from your shrink, who should probably lose her license. I bet she has never even taken Adderall, much less the combo you are talking about.
First off, you are combining an MAOI/SSRI, which forces serotonin to be produced, with an amphetamine. This "Dr." got her diploma where exactly? What do you do, sit around and masturbate for hours on end and never be really satisfied and thats about it? Did I guess right?
You can achieve the same effects as those horrible drugs by taking appoximately 100-200mg of 5-htp, 1000-2000mg of L-Tyrosine, and 1600-2400mg of Piracetam. Maybe you will have to take this twice a day.
That should cure the a.d.d. and neuroses that she is filling you full of crap for. How do I know this? Because it happened to me, which is why your letter caught my eye. 40mg of Addercrap is a HUGE dose! 20mg made me wake up and keep my thoughts arrainged nicely, but it still robbed my body of vitamins and life. I can't imagine what 40mg would do.
Are you so a.d.d that you can't move? She has you being a speed freak, and your sexual thoughts must be pretty warped at this point.
I had horrible a.d.d. growing up (before they i.d.'d it as such), and as an adult they put me on zoloft and adderall. HAH! Yeah right. That screwed me up more than when I wasn't on anything.
I went searching for an end to the Rx conspiricy and found that the above combination of ingredients, easily available at most big health food stores, and easily avalable online, literally cured my a.d.d. and depressive symtoms. For some reason, these "doctors" think that forcing your body to do something is better than just giving your body what it needs to make itself happy. Sure, you may to supplement with what I have recommended, but she practically has you crawling out of your own skin.
Research all of these on the net and you will see what I mean. Also, you most likely need a choline supplement (50-100mg), as well as a mild dose (100mg) of CoQ10.
I have given this combo to other a.d.d./depressives with the same great results. Try it, if it works for you, fire the moronic b&%$h and just stay on the combo that works best for you.
If you bank the money you save on Paxcrap, I mean Paxil, and certainly Adderall, as well as the shrink, you should be able to buy the above ingredients, as well as a nice home in a few years.
As for LSD, I have literally done well over 1000 hits (of the really good stuff by the way), and continue to do so, and I actually grew up and became a programmer, artist, designer, sculptor, writer, machinist (for my Industrial Design degree), and am currently working on my master's thesis in religion just to have something to do (I got sick of working for engineering companies, they suck).
And I want to completely prove people like your shrink wrong.
I was also told that I would be unable to function, but somehow I was able to beat the shrinks analysis and thumb my proverbial nose at them (all 4).
The main reason shrinks hate LSD, is because it put shrinks out of business if it is used responsibly, i.e. use it to understand yourself, rather than just as a party drug. You have to have the right mindset and setting. Clean your home, or go to a quiet area of the woods without cliffs (so they can't blame LSD for you falling), and meditate on your life, with a good friend. Do this (LSD) only after you have allowed the stinking Rx drugs get out of your system for about 2 weeks.
I have come to the point that I can wake up with 2-3 800mg Piracetam (UBER nootropic to make your brain work better), 50mg 5-HTP(5-hydroxytryptophan) (precursor to serotonin), and 1600mg L-Tyrosine (the precursor to dopamine).
You are going to be a complete mess if you stay on that much amphetamine. If your shrink has anything to say about it, tell them to take what you do for a week. They'll probably kill themselves. The fact you haven't is testimony to how "unfragile" your brain really is.
Now, here is my disclaimer: Some, a rare percentage, have been treated with Rx MAOI's and SSRI's, as well as Adderall and other stimulants with no deliterious effects, and you actually need this stuff. Good for you. You are in the small minority that this crap actually works for.
As for the rest of you, try the above and if it works, laugh at a shrink for me and give them the finger. And then spread the word. Like you would legs, and with that much enthusiasm.
Contact me personally if you wish. That goes for any of you beautiful people on here that are cracked-out on this shit and want to get off.
I Love You All.
akashan@direcway.com

 

Can you back up your claim?

 

Yes, I can back it up with the fact that I can show you many empty prescription bottles of this crap that I took, and the fact that I no longer take any of them except for some non Rx Zantac for stomach acid.

I take the combo I listed and I no longer have to take Rx amphetamines or MAOI's.
Better yet, ask her to prove to you why my combo won't work, since it is giving the same end result of leveling your synaptic firing rates, and delivering serotonin.
Have her write to me, I'm not hiding anywhere.

I also have helped several others get off this crap.

In my humble opinion, medical doctors are taught to only use Rx drugs because the drug companies support the medical schools.
Also, you keep calling your shrink a psychologist. Only a Ph.D psychiatrist can prescribe drugs. I hope you aren't getting Rx from a bachelor degreed psychologist, although many people get the distinction wrong.

Do you actually think I would be able to write this well if psychedelics had screwed me up that much? All psychedelics did to me was open up my mind to the fact that a lot of the drug industry is full of crap.
My wife got so screwed up on prozac(when she was 14) when it came out that she virtually turned into a ball of nothing. LSD broke that chain and she never looked back. All she needed was a bit more serotonin to be happy.
If you try any psychedelics, be sure to do it AFTER the Rx drugs are out of your system (10-14 days).
I'll tell you what screwed me up: Adderall mixed with maoi's and ssri's.
Have some faith in something other than someone that just wants to get your insurance money.

In addition, there is a multitude of supporting research regarding all of the substances that I use. Any basic internet search will reveal this.

Here is a link: http://www.lef.org/fda/fdaban95.html
Here is another link for you: www.ceri.com/trypto.htm

 

My psychologist doesn't prescribe my medications, my psychiatrist does. And those links are about L-tryptophan, not L-Tyrosine or Piracetam.