The Real God

All of you who say God doesn't exist or cannot be proven, I'm here to prove you wrong.

Now, when we speak of God, we must realize the God that created us is not the same God that created the universe. This is the supreme being, the all mighty nothing, the creator of the Cosmos and the unfathomable, this is the God the lost Pharoah of Egypt, Ahkenaten, father of Moses, said they should worship, and they banished him for it and destroyed his temple. He said people fought and had wars because of the worship of too many deities. These deities are known as the Annunaki, Elohim, etc.

It is these lesser Gods who created us. They created Adam, in order to mine for gold, that was their main purpose, they needed gold to survive. Keep in mind this is ancient Sumerian belief, and it coincides with a lot of history. The two main brothers were Enki, and Enlil, the generals of the operation.

Enki is who warned Noah of the flood, because he created us and gave us love, compassion, and the ability to reproduce. The other Annunaki were furious over this, and created the flood. Now, Enlil, who is Osiris in Egyptian mythology, is the God who Christians, Jews, and Islamists worship. His name is translated into YHWH, Allah, and has become the God we know of today. He is a vengeful God, he never wanted us to exist in the first place, which is why when you pray to him at night, shit doesnt happen.

I would love to further this conversation and would love to hear your opinions.

This is my main point, the God that created the universe is not the same as the Gods that created us.

Life was here on Earth when the Annunaki arrived, they simply sped up our genetic evolution and mixed their DNA with homo-erectus.

 

Considering Sumeria has the first written accounts, and they've been plagarized and ethnocentrized for mass mind control basically "coining" the study of past events that we call HISTORY. It is really really hard to prove this one wrong. Anyone wanna try?

 

atheists can suck my bawlssss

 

Nice story. Can't really further the conversation cause I don't know what to say. Perhaps you could point us to some more resources for this belief? I would be interested in knowing why someone would think that gods would need gold to survive, for one (seems rather archaic to me, an obvious sign of the times - "gold" is no big deal now). And why the sumerian beliefs are any more accurate or absolute than any others.

 

They were simply the first beliefs ever written down. Making them the closest thing obviously to the truth before people could corrupt them. Cuneiform is the oldest style of writing known. Reefer madness can answer about the gold, it has to do with a mythical substance known as the ORME, which is the biblical tree of life, and the fountain of youth. Its what made the patriarchs of the bible live up to 900 years. Its a body fuel for the annunaki and humans. Making sense why humans are so in love with gold and why it was the first system of physical wealth. Because it could actually elongate life.
reefer will go in more depth I assume.

Also its no lie that every culture worshipping multiple gods, greece, rome, norse,chinese, egyptian. All are simply renamed and different characterists of the annunaki blended and mixed into new entities. This was the first, the purest. Plus it is much more believable being humanoid type beings that "descended from heaven to earth" in vessels similar to modern ideas of the Ufo.

 

I'm sure spiritual beliefs existed long before men could record them. What makes you think that because it is the first recorded it is correct?

And if gold can elongate lifespans to 900 years why aren't we doing it today?

Let's get that proof coming, reefer!!!

 

Well only homo-erectus was alive during this time, the Annunaki simply altered our genetic evolution because the worker Annunaki were tired of working so hard, they needed a better solution. So seeing that homo-erectus was around, they altered their DNA, understanding that in a million or so years it would have happened anyways. They were mining for gold because A) It made them live longer and B) It was necessary for they're home planet. Its still kind of vague but it would make sense as to why gold is such an important crutch for our economy and also as a status symbol, if the gods wanted it so bad, it must be valuable.

To answer your question on the prolongation, this is actually possible. It is said that if you grind gold down into powder you create this ORME substance, im not exactly quite sure the steps but i can find it. Now we must realise that in order to make this power you would need a vast amount of gold and also money, as well as diamond drilling machines seeing as gold is impervious to everything but diamonds(am i wrong?). Also, the steps include fasting for 6 days, something im sure not many people today have the will power to do. After this, you ingest this substance and gain superhuman powers such as telekenesis, telepathy, etc. This is merely speculation and we must beleive the people who have witnessed such experiments in real life, I would love to try myself if only I could get my hands on a shitload of gold haha.

To answer your other question about spiritual beliefs. If we are to beleive this Annunaki tale, then all of our histories and religions can coincide with them by matching up the names of translated Gods and their names.

There were no spiritual beliefs before this, all of the beliefs spawn from this original creation. There were only monkeys and lesser forms of homo-erectus/neanderthal. I would assume they took the most advanced form of homo-erectus. This would explain the reason for a missing link. Also, those who were not genetically altered were either killed by existing humans due to land, or could have interbreeded, or simply died off.

This link here explains it all, it is the teachings of Zacharia Sitchin.

http://enkispeaks.com/

 

You have proved that you believe your story..Nothing more.

Occam

 

Interesting story.

However, I am not sure this belongs on an atheism/agnosticism board.

It has absolutely nothing to do with atheism/agnosticism.

Perhaps a moderator ought to move it?

 

It's impossible to disporve a universal negative.

Nobody is that foolish to try.

The claimer is charged with the burden of proof, and so far, all we've gotten is a story that doesn't belong on this board.

Just because the story comes from Sumeria doesn't make it proof of anything, especially now that it's been retranslated into the O.P.'s words.

 

Well its a story that makes more sense than anything else does. It is most logical and conclusive evidence we have to date.

And yes it does belong on this board, seeing as how we are discussing "the existence or non-existence" of God. Just because you accept the common concept of YHWH and I accept the new age concept of YHWH, should that make a difference?

Readers, and in order to appease Hikaru....

YHWH, Allah, etc...he is Enlil, this Sumerian God, the creator of human life. He exists, or maybe he has died, who knows...but he is the original basis of God in the bible, quran, torah. He is the God the prophets and scribes speak of. He is not to be confused with the one conscious that has created the universe.

A story? You make it sound childish and foolish. Is the rest of religion not a story? Is the accounts of siddartha guatama not a story? Or the story of Jesus? I could go on and on here.

This story makes more sense than anything else does. Is it so hard to beleive that this is the basis for all of religion on this planet? That the common concept of YHWH has been intentionally skewed and distorted in order to blind the masses? The fact that the Egyptians even kicked out a pharoah (akhenaten) who is the father of Moses because he thought the exact same thing im thinking. That the worship of the deities is wrong, and that they should become monotheistic and worship the sun because it is reference to the one conscious that buddhists and hindu's try to achience. This maybe explains why Jesus was a gnostic, which is ridciulously close to Buddhism, and the fact that the first Christians to be killed by other Christians were gnostic cathars. This all predates back to Sumeria and the story of Enki and Enlil. Which over the past thousands of years has been systemically driven out so that the Zionist jews could take over, which themselves spawn from Babylon after stealing Moses knowledge that he got from akhenaten. This would explain why their is so much corruption in religion, politics, etc.

Don't beleive my story, all im saying is that it makes entirely more sense then what the masses have come to beleive. Explaining all the confusing and bullshit in this world.

Thats my story and im sticking to it. You stay classy Hipforums.

 

Hiky

Well if he actually could 'prove' his statements. It would have quite
an impact on athiesm and agnosticism
Let alone the fact he would be achieving what no human or group of
humans has EVER achieved in all human history.

Alas, it is but like all other 'truths' about a god, speculative belief.
If enough people want to talk about it h might get his own forum in
philosophy and religion [do you think?]

Occam

 

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.."Dr. Sasha (Alex) Lessin (a UCLA Anthropology Ph.D.), guides you though Zecharia Sitchin's revolutionary proofs (and their implications for us) of the history of our solar system and on Earth from 500,000 years ago until 2023 B.C."..

http://enkispeaks.com

If you take time to read that you'll find a lot of interesting things if your up to par with aspects of ancient history. I'm not forcing anything or actually proving a thing, I'm merely echoing something that a highly scholared and revered writer, someone with a lot of knowledge, which is Zecharia Sitchin.

Take time to read it and tell me what you think.

 

You're all wrong. Corky IV created the universe and everything in it. Your ability to say otherwise was granted by Corky IV, so it is de facto proof that Corky IV created everything.

 

im sure he did

 

If your argument is that the universe happened by chance, then why cant chance be god?

Seeing as how this chance is what allowed us to exist.

 

r33f3r

Well occam looked at it .
And thats about it.

Occam has read 5 to 6 thousand SF works in his days.. yours is one more.
And not the the most consistant in any way.
Sorry

Occam

 

"the god which can be named is not the god that is" - lao tsu.

quite simply, if you honestly believe something to be grater then yourself (and it would take a hell of an ego to dismiss the possibility of ANYthing being greater then yourself entirely out of hand), how can you possibly expect it to begin and end with ANYthing you think you know about it?

can a smaller container EVER contain a larger one?

we can surmise only a small number of probabilities, all else is simply speculation and pasting lables on the unknown so we can pretend to know more about it then we ever logicly can.

=^^=
.../\...

 

Themnax

Well said.
When humanity admits it's base ignorance.
THEN, it is a rational species, and can move forward from that point.

Occam

 

As we are, God once was. As God is, we will become.

-Gnostic saying

Occam, my point of that link is to show that the Gods Christians, Muslims, and Jews worhip...allah, Yahweh, etc. are merely a being of higher intelligence, not the God's that create the universe. If you believe that the world is fucked up because of these religions, then you should agree in Zacharia Sitchin's and his studies of the ancient Sumerians. The fact that these lesser Gods manipulated our DNA when we were monkeys on Earth instead of letting us evolve naturally like the one supreme being of the universe had intended.