the only threat I saw with Sen Kerry tonite was the possibility of getting knocked out by a line drive in Fenway Park. He had the best seats in the ballpark, right next to the Red Sox dugout. I cant even dream of those kind of seats EVEN at Kauffman stadium in Kansas City. And poor Ben Affleck had to sit next to the Yankees dugout, getting heckled by Alex Rodriguez and his cohorts.
Yes, I was referring to the movie JFK. Oliver Stone did a good job IMHO. I particully like the run through that Costner did regarding the "magic bullet". Vietnam was already in progress when JFK took office. I do believe he even commited troops there, but did not want to remain there. He had plans for pulling out, probably due to constant harrassment from brother Bobby....hehehe. However this is a bit off topic...so back to Kerry. I just watched a CNN program on Kerry. It was interesting and gave me a better "feeling" toward him. Didn't know he was on the debate team at college. Isn't he suppose to debate Bush sometime in the future? That ought to be interesting...One who can't even utter completes sentences against a former debate team master. They said he has the ability to sense an opponents weakness in debating and goes for the jugular...Let's hope so...though if he makes Bush look like to big a fool....well maybe this topic will come into play after all.
Strange enough, I just got this in my email tonight: http://www.1funny.com/presidential.shtml According to this, Bush is the one who should be ducking.
I think an assassination would be a bit too drastic. I agree with freesue in that if anything the "powers-that-be" will just fix the election to ensure Bush's victory. I mean they basically fixed it last time, what's to stop them from doing it again? And especially now with the new electronic voting machines, how would we ever know who voted for who?
Woooohh... With the terrifying prospect of President Cheney in mind, I guess, for once, I have my fingers crossed for Georgie that he ducks well. Think I've seen that Presidential curse list before... interesting factoids I guess.
I made my last post before reading all of your original. Now, I know you are the top dog and we're not suppose to tick off the power that is, but I have got to ask if you have ever been in an accident or something in which you bumped your head real hard? Not being disrespectfull, but man, I think you are a bit out there if you honestly belief Kerry is going to be assanated, or that Bush is sleeping with the enemy,(other than Isreal), etc. The death of michael, I mean, Martin King, did in no way benifit the conservative party. It finalized his communist cause and that of the liberals. He became a legend and a hero - which he would have not become had he not been executed. Personally, I don't think it criminal or bad to be a liberal. Funny and sad, yes; Criminal no. I would really like to know how you came to this conclusion, Skip, as I believe it is a jewish, zionist influence that controls both parties. 8% is nothing compared to what the zionist control in this country. The Federal Reserve Bank alone controls the stock market and it is jewish owned. Your last sentence - just telling you what I think, brother.
I'd highly doubt it. Kerry is sponsered by the same corporate powers as bush, so i don't think they give a shit who wins. either way, they win. we lose.
Lies, lies & more lies. While I concede American jews do own a lot of America (gee aren't americans supposed to own their own country?), it turns out that Price Alwaleed Bin Talad of Saudi Arabia owns 8.9% of Citicorp stock, which is one of the major shareholders in the Federal Reserve bank. In fact a little research will show you that American banks are the ONLY shareholders of the Fed. Here is the list of the major members/shareholders in the Fed. Regional banks own the rest. Chase Manhatten Bank Citibank Morgan Guaranty Trust Company Fleet Bank Bankers Trust Bank of New York Marine Midland Bank Summit Bank I wish to point out that Chase is pretty much owned by the Rockefellers who are not only anti-semetic, but supported Hitler's regime big time. Morgan is run by the J.P. Morgan company, and the J.P. Morgan Group set up the loan to I.G. Farben, which produced the deadly Zyklon B gas which was used in concentration camps to murder jews. Morgan too financed Hitler's genocide machine. Gee, I'm sure having a hard time finding people who are friendly to jews, much less the jews themselves on this list... Oh, yeah, the Rothchilds had something to do with the original foundation of the fed. Yeah, like they were typical jews... Rumor has it they too made lots of money helping out Hitler. Perhaps it was their collection agent who got Hitler all pissed off at jews (this is my personal theory). Here is a complete rundown and debunking of the Fed myths... http://www.floodlight.org/theory/flaherty9.htm Now that you have completely taken this thread OFF-TOPIC to spread your own hate-filled agenda, Warrior, you might want to check out our forum guidelines again (look under forum options). While we don't object to hate-speech, as it is a form of free-speech, we do have serious reservations about people hijacking threads to spread their own agenda, whatever it is. You've been warned (twice now) and next time you will be banned. Once again the subject of THIS thread is the possible assassination of John Kerry.
i'd always thought that the english and the dutch were the biggest investors in the usa. as for kerry, no, i don't think he'll be assassinated.
"They" shot Reagan too. What has Bush really done for the fundamentalists? Nothing. All they need is the usual scare tactics that abortionist gay loving librul athiests are going to be elected and they show up at the polls. After the election, they are kicked back to the curb. Not even close. I assume this is from Moore's film. His numbers don't add up; it is more likely that Saudis represent 8% of total foreign investment in the US (stocks, bonds, real estate, etc). http://www.davekopel.org/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm#Saudi_Departures_from_United_States And if nothing happens, what should we conclude? That maybe the anti-Bushies are getting as apocalypic as the christian fundamentalists?
You are right, both the English & Dutch were Major conspirators in the Federal Reserve bank. The Rothschilds & the Warburgs were English, Dutch & Germans who pretty much financed the whole deal, which many see as the selling of America. But you see the real question is who controls the banks. Fortunately most are publically owned, so ownership is no longer in the control of just a few, yet Fed policies are set by Alan Greenspan of course. I've noticed how when the US goes further into debt, there's an immediate affect, most apparent in the relationship between the US dollar & the English pound. They basically devalue the US $ the amount of the loan coming from English sources. So bush's wars on terror, Afghanistan & Iraq have caused the US debt to record levels as the $ went from being strong under Clinton to as much as 40% weaker. That's why England & Tony Blair have so much at stake in Iraq. The US owes them for their help financing it. And they expect to be paid back. Every American who is in debt basically owes - THE REST OF THE WORLD. Guess what? They coming to collect it. 9/11 was just the first overdue notice... Really I mean it. We OWE the world. The US debt shows us how much of the world's resources we have hogged beyond our means. Others must live within their means, whereas we allow ourselves the undeserved luxury of buying up the world's limited resources (to the point of no return), forcing others who can't afford them to do without. This is something beyond the comprehension of conservatives, who can't see past their own greed. Back to the topic: Kerry is definitely preferred by the English over Bush, although poor Tony has so cast his lot with Bush, he can only hope to survive too. Anyway, let's pray the Dems have their act together & Kerry can do a better job (which shouldn't be too hard).
Skip, for once I have to wholeheartedly disagree with your conclusions. Kerry as a "progressive" alternative to Bush is a hilarious joke. He's a multibillionaire who has stated that he will INCREASE the number of troops in Iraq. He refuses, in fact, to state definitively that the illegal invasion of Iraq was even WRONG. He's a less attractive, less amusing Bill Clinton - all liberal rhetoric with no real action. He wouldn't even BE the candidate if he were truly an alternative to Bush. In other words, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for the ruling elite to assasinate Kerry. He CERTAINLY should not be compared to Martin Luther King, for crimeny's sake. What we have to understand is that, assuming Kerry is elected, he will provide the perfect patsy to increase troops in Iraq while deflecting blame away from the republican party. It's a little game these bastards play - they've been playing the same one for years. They play "conservative America" for a while, with a "conservative" figurehead, then they pitch their "liberal America" crap, and the figurehead's rhetoric swings the other way. Meanwhile, they very quietly continue doing exactly the same thing they've been doing for 20 years - looting the world of its resources, waging war against pathetic third world backwaters, carrying on disgusting CIA operations and coups, and supporting the wealthiest people in this country and around the world while turning the rest of us into wage slaves. The gap between rich and poor WORLDWIDE (including the US) has increased every year since Carter's presidency. The wars against the third world haven't stopped since WWI. The environmental destruction has accelerated (under Clinton, rainforest imports INCREASED). Americans have gotten fatter, more depressed, have less insurance, fewer work benefits. The power of unions has decreased alarmingly for 30 years. This has happened under republicans, democrats, liberals, conservatives. We would have to be blind FOOLS not to see it. And perhaps that, afterall, is the real problem.
I never called Kerry a progressive. I could care less how he compares to Bush. It's not really Bush I give a shit about. It's his cronies that are most dangerous. Bush is just a figurehead, and yes I agree with all your statements LW, but that's not the point. Getting rid of the warhawks, specifically Rummy & Cheney & Wolfowitz & Kunteezer Lice, will go a long way to making the US a safer place. Dump the fundamentalists like Asscrack and you REALLY will have a different government. These guys are FUCKING NUTS, in case you haven't noticed. Nuts in the same way that Eichmann, Goebbels & the rest of Hitler's henchmen. "God gave the savior to the German people. We have faith, deep and unshakeable faith, that he [Hitler] was sent to us by God to save Germany." -Hermann Göring "We believe that the Fuhrer is fulfilling a divine mission to German destiny! This belief is beyond challenge." -Rudolf Hess "George Bush was not elected by a majority of the voters in the United States. He was appointed by God" Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin appointed to the newly created position of Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence by G. W. Bush Don't you people see? They believe Bush rules not by the will of the people, but by DIVINE RIGHT. We are up against a RELIGIOUS CRUSADE, just as Bin-Laden described it, and now it should be obvious for all with eyes open to see. Maybe not everyone involved in it sees it that way, but there is definitely a CORE CONSPIRACY involving the top US leadership and many others. That's why Cheney won't leave the ticket, he's one of the co-conspirators. And he's probably planning contingencies right now in case Bush's election chances take a further dive. Having so thoroughly wrapped Bush's presidency in terms of a war against "terrorism", and the fulfillment of apocalyptic prophesy, they can't back out now. This war is obviously an anti-Islamic crusade that they cannot afford to lose. So the US picked a new enemy when there no longer was one on the street to fight anymore. They had to keep the military/industrial complex humming as the economy soured. And the war will never end. And I disagree about one thing. I think the dems are actually lying and will pull troops out of Iraq if they get power. Maybe not immediately but much faster than Bush would. They can't say it now because it would encourage the insurgency and hurt Kerry's bid, but I'm pretty sure all the anti-Iraq war sentiment has been more than duly noted (since over half the US believes the war was wrong now). "How fortunate for leaders that men do not think." - Adolf Hitler
Skip, what you haven't said (unless you said it in a post I haven't read, and if so, appologies) is that the greatest and longest lasting harm Bush could do is the appointment of Supreme Court justices. How would everyone like a few more Scalias? THAT is scary.
That is NOTHING compared to what else Bush's second term would have in store for us... But that's another thread...
I agree Skip, Kerry may well be the lesser of two evils, but I believe he would be considerably less evil. What bothers me is the realization that most of us believed that about Nixon in 1968.
Well, Skip, that was the whole point of my post seeing as how Bush Duh hasn't appointed a justice. You can bet you ass he will, though, if he gets a second term. Rehnquist and Stevens are both in their eighties. Stevens is fairly moderate. Rehnquist is , well, Rehnquist. Stevens would be a loss, however.
Well, Skip, hopefully you will do an indepth search on these people that you mentioned - "specifically Rummy & Cheney & Wolfowitz & Kunteezer (of whom my people have a different name for) Lice" - you may find some very interesting facts. But these people are not just part of the game, they are indicitive of the game. You will find many of the same measure in each camp. I perceive you as an intligent individual and so I believe you are open to different views. Once you or anyone here does an open and honest investigation I believe that you will find that there are powers behind the obvious. All of these were based on personal beliefs, nothing more. They should not be perceived as anything else. For me to say, "Skip is the greatest guy in the world and his site comes from God", is the same thing. In other words, Boykin is the only one who thinks "DEVINE RIGHT" is involved with Bush. Cheney is definately in it for the long haul. Look at his religious affiliation. That is enough from me. Lets just see if my post clears, or disappears.
>>"George Bush was not elected by a majority of the voters in the United States. He was appointed by God" Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin appointed to the newly created position of Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence by G. W. Bush Don't you people see? They believe Bush rules not by the will of the people, but by DIVINE RIGHT. We are up against a RELIGIOUS CRUSADE, just as Bin-Laden described it, and now it should be obvious for all with eyes open to see.<< Just had to add....ya'all know who is one of the major consultants and players in the Bush campaign strategy don't ya? Good ole Ralph Reed, former director of the Christian Coalition. Rumor has it that Reed has had his eye on chairmanship of the RNC. So, I have to agree with Skip on this aspect. And, that's what is frightening about Bush to me. Anyone who thinks he is on a "mission from god" in a powerful political office...hmmmmmm