loose change

Discussion in 'Protest' started by IntrepidTrips, Mar 14, 2006.

  1. IntrepidTrips

    IntrepidTrips Member

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    Im not into tin foil hats or any of the michael moore garbage but i thought this was frightening and thought provoking. I honestly wanted to scream when i saw it.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801&q=loose+change

    What can i do in wisconsin? does anyone know of any rallys out here. Im kinda restricted from leaving the state at the moment. :mad: . Damn that probation.
     
  2. ChanginTimes

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    If only probation officers would join the 9/11 truth movement lol. But unfortunately they're never voluntarily take their blinders off. The best thing you can do it email as many people as you know the link to the site that shows the video.

    Check out this link for other DVDs, etc : www.peaceproject.com
     
  3. The.KK

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    Disproved 459879 times. Any expert can debunk those claims.
     
  4. steely_j

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    what would the us goverment win on doing that ? why in the world would they?
     
  5. Pointbreak

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    You are now.
     
  6. ChanginTimes

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    Michael Moore is shady in himself. He didn't even come CLOSE to exposing the anomolies of 9/11/01. Far as I'm concerned, his information is so incomplete, that I suspect he may be a "gatekeeper" of real truth. Allow only so much truth to get out so people will waste all their energy and time on those issues while the REAL issues don't get discussed because well, nobody is aware of them. Michael Moore may not be such a great guy afterall. Alex Jones is the REAL Michael Moore. Watch Alex Jones' documentaries to see what I mean.

    www.infowars.com
     
  7. The.KK

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    What anomalies?
     
  8. brothwood

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    watch the video, i am not saying it is true, but the video does question quite a few things. i try not to believe conspiracies, because i feel i am being hypocritical, because i am told not to trust one group but trust another with evidence on both sides.

    the video is scary but also could be a conspiracy, and the evidence messed with to look like a conspiracy. i do not know. but i do not pretend to know which side is right. i do like the fact that we can question, that is real freedom, we don't just accept what goes on.
    freedom is beautiful
     
  9. shaggie

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    If a video really makes one think, we might think about who wrote the video and what their qualifications and motivations were.

    Here's another link:

    http://www.911myths.com/


    Yes, the collapse looked like a demolition; therefore, it must have been. Here's another example of using that type of logic:

    Government covers up freight train accidents.

    "The noise sounded like two freight trains going over a trestle right over your head; it was an ugly roar. My wife said the noise when the house went was like a giant pencil sharpener working.”

    http://www.crh.noaa.gov/dtx/1953beecher/storiesFJ.php

    “While I was in my kitchen I heard this terrible roar coming," she said. "It sounded like a freight train coming right down my road here”

    http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WEATHER/09/02...nado/index.html

    It indeed sounded like a freight train roaring past us, and when it was gone, we came out to find things a mess.

    http://www.offenburger.com/farmarchive.asp?link=20040906

    It came with "the roar of forty freight trains."

    http://www.tornadochaser.com/UDALL/reports.htm

    “It sounded like a freight train”.

    http://www.disasternews.net/news/news.php?articleid=2954

    “Before I reached the bottom of the stairs, I heard the sound of a roaring freight train”

    http://www.christianitytoday.com/tcw/9w2/9w2052.html

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  10. The.KK

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    I did watch it, a long time ago. Here I'm gonna repost something I posted before in here:

    There is no conspiracy, those videos, they only ask questions, but don't give answers.
    Here's another long thread about the video "Loose Change" in another forum I frequent for more than a year: http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1432710
    I'm gonna pull out quotes from a firefighter in the forum.
    And for anyone who has suspision about the pentagon here's a nice of what happens when a place crashes into a concrete wall.
    http://www.filecabi.net/video/planewall.html

    Another websites that has answers, lots:
    http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html

    I think that this pretty sums it up.
     
  11. brothwood

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    i didn't say i believed it, i said i at least took it into consideration. and what is the difference between your evidence links, and the websites. they both could have faults. which is why i profess not to know.
     
  12. The.KK

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    I didn't post that against you, I posted it for the sake of the thread. And the difference is that the conspiracy websites ask questions, or do some false logical reasoning and my links debunk those things. An easy example, in loose change they said that steel doesn't melt at the x tempeture the fuel was burning at, but what he's forgetting is that steel EXPANDS, thus reducing structural integrity.
     
  13. shaggie

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    The terrorists no longer have to bother spreading rumors and misinformation. The conspiracy groups in the U.S. are doing it for them.

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  14. LickHERish

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    No shag, that would be mainstream media. But of course, you go right ahead and accept the official line as factual and not underpinned by any hidden agenda or political objective. It's not as if history has taught us the painful lessons of ease with which the "majority" are regularly misinformed by their leaders in the bid for preservation and extension of their own power and privilege.

    Oh and that Popular Mechanics article is an outright hoot. Obviously nothing suspect in its confinement to only the most spurious strawman arguments nor the fact that it was written by the cousin of Dept of Homeland Security Secretary, Michael Chertoff.

    The psychosis of simple refusal to believe that our own "brand America" leaders could ever sacrifice several thousand here at home to justify a long planned era of renewed hegemonic warfare is demonstrably as prevalent as ever.

    Baaaaaaa, little sheeple!
     
  15. hippie_chick666

    hippie_chick666 Senior Member

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    Exactly! Although an aquatanice calls them "ants in a colony." Personally I like the term "bees in a hive."

    Peace and Love
     
  16. hippie_chick666

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    My bf was trained in demolition and explosives, and recently when he watched the towers fall, he noticed the structures appeared to have been detonated. His words: "I could have done that." He was in basic during 9-11 and was given little access to the press of the attack. Wonder why?

    Peace and love
     
  17. Pointbreak

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    Care to back that up? Or maybe retract it?
     
  18. shaggie

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    Being sheep for conspiracy groups is no better than being shills for the government.

    Elvis is still alive too. I thought that conpiracy craze would never end. It went on for about 15 years before Americans finally got tired of it and after all the conspiracy groups made their money off of it.

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  19. shaggie

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    Of course they didn't want him to see it. It was a complete embarassment to the U.S. military. The U.S. corporate media didn't want to discuss those embarassing aspects of it either. Instead they focused on showing sugar-coated clips of the Mommys at home with their little newborn babies and their husbands in the military in Iraq, which had nothing to do with 911, and how Daddy was supposedly fighting in Iraq to keep people in the U.S. safe from terrorism.

    Ask your bf how he would take out a 208 foot wide quarter-mile high tower with demolition without anyone noticing.

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  20. hippie_chick666

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    Plant explosives will disguised as a simple repair man? Most people don't question the guy with the tools who does the maintance/ repairs.

    That was my idea, but I'll ask him when he gets back from work. He'll also respond to the rest of your post.

    Peace & Love
     
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