A moneyless society, is it possible?

You notice though how the richest parts of the country are the most liberal, while the poorer regions are the ones that go to the conservative and libertarian side.

And has anyone thought for those who says money is a control tool of the fact that if there wasn't money there would just be another method of control unless everyone lived on their own farm, made all their own foods/goods and never traded.

 

a national labour card.

 

Then what is?

 

meh, national labour card?

i don't want anything...national

if we get rid of money, but keep the state, then the state becomes all powerfull

they go hand in hand, they must both be evolved

 

The state responsibility is only management.

 

In some socialist countries, there is still private property aka money. However, the means of production are owned by the state, therefore, the people. The state controls the national resources and factories. Instead of a goal of profit, these factories are working for the common good. Kinda looks nice after the Delphi fiasco. As in, the CEO's and board members are getting million + dollar bonuses while the company declared bankruptcy. Makes me sick.

This system works much better in a real life enviroment than pure communism, which has never existed. Communism can only exist on paper, as well as Laissez Faire economics.

peace and love

 

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Actually, liberals want all control in the hands of the all-powerful government. What liberals don't understand is that thanks to big-government socialism, we have seen the rise of corporatism, which is the merger between corporation and state. The only reason the corporations are in charge is because government has become too big and corrupt, and our "elected leaders" have all been bought and paid off for by these corporations. There is no longer any real distinction between the corporations and the government, because the government is run by the corporations, which are in turned owned by the big banks.

 

I say you're an idiot. "petroluem" , "crude oil" comes from fossil fuels; I'm well aware there are plants that can produce similar hydrocarbons, but not nearly enough to satisfy the supply.

E85 has been used in Brazil for about a decade, far more feasible alternative.
didn't have google that one .

 

Again, this is a theory. Not a proven fact.

Yes, some fuel might come from fossils and decaying plant matter, but certainly not all of it does.

 

theory? how the hell is that a theory? composition doesn't give theories.

 

I want a 'moneyless society'

Stick a chip in me..and debit my account accordingly.. i hate money, always loseing it.

 

here's an interesting site (not quite related to our debate)
http://freeenergynews.com/

 

R.A. Wilson (Robert Anton) wrote about "virtual money" in his book "The Illuminati Papers", back in the 70's; pretty interesting read.

Federal Reserve notes are semi-traceable currency, virtual money isn't

 

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives/peak_oil/

 

Wrong, they want the government to interfere to reduce injustices and inequalities because they don't believe the market can address such issues.

That is called fascism.

That is why society should be moneyless then there is nothing to buy or sell.

I don't disagree but this is not what true liberals want.

 

That's quite funny. Did you know the Flying Spaghetti Monster created the world? He first made a midget, a mountain, and trees. That is how our world was created! Check out this site: http://www.venganza.org/

Right now I am wearing a pirate outfit. Yarrggg!

Peace and love

 

Of course i missed the point on purpose.. thanks for taking it seriously.

I had not even read the thread ... hahahahaha

I dunno even were to start with the idea with a 'moneyless society'.. i know it has fuck all to do with politics anyway.

 

wow, and you called mine a theory.

for one, I'm not trying to say we're going to run out of oil anytime soon, that's paranoia; I'm well aware it's a big exploitation scam.
also, hydrocarbons are the result of decomposition of organic matter (carbon-containing compounds), or fusion of organic compounds, period. There is a finite amount of material present on our planet; whether or not it's renewable is also just theory.

 

oh no, I wasn't taking it seriously, it's just that your idea of losing money reminded me of Wilson's alternative.

and yeah, money basically fuels politics.