explain this

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by mr.morrison, Mar 7, 2006.

  1. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    ugh...ok ok

    First of all physical matter is energy...and so is everything else in the univurse...

    secondly...time, beginnings and ends do exist wether you beleive them or not...yes...they might be man made but if man wasnt around to grant the world identity...would anything exist?
     
  2. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Hee2

    Yes Time does exist as the processing NOW demonstrates.
    But on what evidence do you support the idea that is has a beginning or end?
    Human science has litle idea of what time, gravity or space is.
    [space now being a thing in itself]
    We can predict the effects of such.. but have little idea of the cause.

    There is NO existant evidence that reality has a START point
    Astrophysicists will Not say...'oh yes.. the big bang was the beginning of time'
    WHY dont they say such? Think about it.

    Occam
     
  3. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    cooloner
    Your sig
    Facts are for liars.

    The older occam gets..the more 'fact' shrinks toward the only fact
    'i reason therefore my reasoning process exists'

    And the more probable becomes harlan edison's

    99% of everything is crap.

    Occam
     
  4. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Except gravity.

    And the fabric of space-time.
     
  5. r33f3r_m4dn3ss

    r33f3r_m4dn3ss Member

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    have you ever thought about the word uni-verse?

    uni = 1
    verse = text

    one text, one code, one language

    just something to think about
     
  6. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    You mean God's qualia?
     
  7. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    occam...

    i was adressing the asumption that beginings/ends do not exist or "everything is eternal" wich is ilogical to a rediculous degree...i dont think i said time once in my last statement...btw...if your trying to lose your ego...you cant acknoledge individuality...that includes others


    now excuse me...i have a date with my bong
     
  8. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Heeh2

    Did not 'assume' reality is eternal...proposed it.

    IS it more ridiculous than that there was no reality.
    [The absolute absence of any existant thing...]
    Then reality just appeared?

    Occam thinks not.

    Not possible to loose ego...besides which it is occams business
    what he does with it.

    Occam
     
  9. skibadee

    skibadee Member

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    reality has an end, beyond reality doesnt...
     
  10. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    ....did i say reality....like god....that concept is unknowable as far as im concearned...i think you need to re-read my posts....and re evaluate my conclusions....im sure you will agree once you understand what i was trying to say...

    the arguments that time and reality had beginings and ends were started by you alone...i agree with your arguments but....who are you arguing with....
     
  11. Nimrod's Apprentice

    Nimrod's Apprentice Member

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    Man fuck the big bang, so what am I supposed to believe some big fucking star mass of energy just started having sex with another opposite mass and spewed out the galaxy thats still going on and connecting remnants of that original semen? I personally do and at the same time don't want to agree that I am the result of some massive ejaculation a trillion light years ago in some fucked up hyperdimension.

    Yea I know the real big bang, its called me and your mother!
    AINT THAT RIGHT TREBEK!
     
  12. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    As no-one is adressing their posts..occam has no idea what replies are for what..

    Confusion...so

    CYA

    Occam
     
  13. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    i never assume that everyone will either aggree with me or not aggree with me, only that it is pretty darn unlikely that everyone will aggree with each other.

    i've never seen reality do anything but laugh at any attempt to deprive it of diversity.

    men may suffer. life may suffer. but no tyrannt yet has been able to do anything about reality's attachment to diversity, though nearly all have beaten their own heads against attempting to.

    it is only we who suffer from their attempts. reality just goes right on being diverse.
    and oh it feels so good when they stop. if only they would just stop once and for all.

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  14. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    Could be an eternal universe. It's a human condition that wants to put a begining and ending to everything. According to a lot of big bang theorists the universe has been forever contracting and expanding. No Alpha, No Omega.
     

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