Its never too late... or is it?

was just listening to this n couldnt help but think that maybe cuz many of the "60's hippies" are just getting to this starting over stage of life,,, maybe tis why so many of the "young hippies" of today just dont get it... just a thought people so dont take me to the stake n burn me for it....​

luv n lite​

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IT'S NEVER TOO LATE​

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From the 1969 release "At Your Birthday Party"​

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Words and music by John Kay and Nick St. Nicholas

Your eyes are moist, you scream and shout
As though you were a man possessed
From deep inside comes rushing forth
All the anguish you suppressed
Up on your wall hangs your degree
Your parents craved so much for you
And though you're trained to make your mark
You still don't quite know what to do

It's never too late to start all over again
To love the people you caused the pain
And help them learn your name
Oh, no, not too late
It's never too late to start all over again

Well, it's much to late to start again
To try and find a little bliss
So on your woman and your child
You release your bitterness
You drift apart some more each day
You feel the guilt and loneliness
And the God of your childhood you can't find
To save you from your emptiness

It's never too late to start all over again
To love the people you caused the pain
And help them learn your name
Oh, no, not too late
It's never too late to start all over again

You say you've only got one life to live
And when your dead your gone
Your family comes to your grave
And with tears in their eyes
They tell you, you did something wrong
"You left us alone"

Tell me who's to say after all is done
And you're finally gone, you won't be back again
You can find a way to change today
You don't have to wait 'til then



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damn dilli....that hit home..thanx for refreshing my memory...and I can so relate to what you are saying and what the 'wolf said then....since I will hit the big five O in 3 weeks....and being fresh out of a 26 year long marriage...yeah my time has come to start out on the second leg of life.....yeah I know what you mean about how the younger crowd just really doesn't "get it".....thanx for reminding what it is all about

 

anytime brother...

just seems to me as i been troddin through life that many of the 60s n 70s folks that were of age enough to remember it n live it sorta lost it somewhere along the way,,, as many do,,, that doesnt ever change i dont think,,, n now it seems so many of those same folks are going through this metamorphise in the last couple years and now even and going back to what they felt n wished for n lost in those same years of the 60s n 70s.... ..

of course now that i am lookin at this thread a couple days after posting,,,, is it something that tends to happen with every generation or was that generation of folks special for some reason,,, ( lsd n heroin possibly ,,, lol) i dunno i was just a baby in the 70s n my mother (who was a total lost hippy/rainbow ,, i just was too young n unintersted in it all to think about such things then,, was to busy learnin to pee in a toilet n learn abc's n such...) died before i ever got to the point of wanting to know more abuot it all,,, hell quite frankly i always thought she was one strange woman with horrible taste in clothing n music but now i sit n ponder such things on a daily basis...as well as wonder if i will one day in a few years go ... WOW,,, is it too late or if i have gone through life always believing its never too late n fixxed my shit as i went along...... the aging process is a verrrrrrrry strange thing indeed,,,, dunno iffin i like it yet or not,,,, knowledge n wisdom n questioning life itself versus ignorance and bliss..
luv n lite

 

anytime brother...

just seems to me as i been troddin through life that many of the 60s n 70s folks that were of age enough to remember it n live it sorta lost it somewhere along the way,,, as many do,,, that doesnt ever change i dont think,,, n now it seems so many of those same folks are going through this metamorphise in the last couple years and now even and going back to what they felt n wished for n lost in those same years of the 60s n 70s.... ..

of course now that i am lookin at this thread a couple days after posting,,,, is it something that tends to happen with every generation or was that generation of folks special for some reason,,, ( lsd n heroin possibly ,,, lol) i dunno i was just a baby in the 70s n my mother (who was a total lost hippy/rainbow ,, i just was too young n unintersted in it all to think about such things then,, was to busy learnin to pee in a toilet n learn abc's n such...) died before i ever got to the point of wanting to know more abuot it all,,, hell quite frankly i always thought she was one strange woman with horrible taste in clothing n music but now i sit n ponder such things on a daily basis...as well as wonder if i will one day in a few years go ... WOW,,, is it too late or if i have gone through life always believing its never too late n fixxed my shit as i went along...... the aging process is a verrrrrrrry strange thing indeed,,,, dunno iffin i like it yet or not,,,, knowledge n wisdom n questioning life itself versus ignorance and bliss..
luv n lite

 

I guess I can only speak for myself here. I did what I thought I had to do and I did the best I could. It takes courage and strength of heart to start over and the older I get, the harder it becomes to remember when I first learned how to walk. The only fear I have stronger than starting over is remaining the tired, dirty, broken, bitter old man that I have become.

<<knowledge n wisdom n questioning life itself versus ignorance and bliss..>>

My friend/guru Bubba J would say "everything in moderation."

 

but do you notice yuorself becoming the way you are or does it just happen at such a gradual pace that ya dont really see it except mabe a wee bit at times n them slam into the preverbial brick wall or rock bottom. i guess maybe ,, possibly,,,where i differ is i have started completely over so many times,,,, then again some would say that was called running from things,,, but at the same time i dont really see myself becoming hardened in the process,,, oh i could dont get me wrong n very easily but i do try n keep that on an even keel through moderation of my hardness n my cuteness, sweetness,,, ughhhhhhh.. roflmao for lack of better words...

but seems to me that many ppl ,although they remain true to what they believed n lived it the best they could through all the years get blinders or skewed vision of what they are at the same time ... and in that time they do become hardened n bitter ,, or hardened n complacent... then all the sudden something happens in there life that makes them go ,,, oh shit look at me,,, n decide that its now or never to learn to love n trust n live n yadda yadda again,,,

 

I was a young man when I died
I was a flash, I was full of pride
I gave it all, I gave my soul, I was so strong
I felt the truth, I felt the pain in every song

How well you know me
You've seen me cry
I'm just a shadow
In a rock and roll sky

I was living in a rock and roll sky
I was a king, heavy on the style
Super trouper, yes I know you well, making me shine
I couldn't see what you did to me. I was so blind

How well you know me
You've seen me cry
I'm just a shadow
In a rock and roll sky

I wanna be like I was before
But this time I'm gonna know the score
I need a home I can leave behind knowing you're there
Super trouper, I can see you now, return your stare

How well you know me
You've seen me cry
I'm just a shadow
In a rock and roll sky


"theres a point to this post,,im just listnin to a diffrent song..:&

luv n lite..

 

majority rules..outcasts get tired bucking the rules& get depressed at the idea of giving in and falling in line with the "norm" as i get older it does seem to get more overwhelming though a lot of good stuff started back when..thats taken for norm now gay rights,gender equality,enviromental awareness,etc.some kids today seem to want to further these ideas and more

 

OK kids-stop whining and make/get a life-you have things now that make life alot easier then we did -We went hungry many times and had a long war in Viet Nam draggin this country into ruin-gee- sounds familiar-just "keep on truckin" and don't worry too much about anything-you are young once-by the time I was 21 I had travelled all over Europe- playin music and havin fun-eventually you will land on something you can really get into-devide your fun time with work time-if your in a rut-change it-if your broke-find a way too fix it-in other worlds- you have to learn survival skills to make it through-love yourself enough not to hurt yourself-stay away from the assholes and try to live like you are being watched over-you are!-One time in 68' me and my buddy found ourselves stuck on a highway in Arizona trying to hitchhike to New Orleans-The sun was blisstering out there-We had our musical instruments and sleepin bags and no money really-well- nobody would stop for us-even then-we were out there for hours-just sittin on the hot asphalt waitn for a car to come along-Finally; my partner says-"Come on man-lets start walking"-I thought he was nuts-I said "Walk where?"-it's miles to the next town and it's over 100 out there-He says-"The Lord helps those that help themselves"-I got up and we started down the road-10 minutes later a freight train comes along and for some reason-I never figured out-it stopped-we jumped on and road that thing -till it stopped again-EL-Paso-Tex.-then hitched the rest of the way to the Big Easy-true story-"life is one big lesson"-pay attention and you'll be fine-good luck!

 

i dont see any whining in this whatsoever,,, sorry if you did... also has nothing to do with not having a life nor needing one,,, however if you see it that way as well,, i guess we are thinking on two completely different planes,,,,

 

HBH your post falls right in line here for me. I have sung that many times to myself in my head through the years.

"How well you know me
You've seen me cry
I'm just a shadow
In a rock and roll sky

I wanna be like I was before
But this time I'm gonna know the score"

But I guess that means I won't be like I was before.

I saw it all coming through cleared (teared) eyes. How many have said "I wish to God I had done some things differently?" I didn't see all the speed bumps, that is for sure. But who can't say that either?

I do know I didn't have to hit that proverbial brick <<,,, oh shit look at me,,,>> wall. You have to get off the beaten path to do so.

<<n decide that its now or never to learn to love n trust n live n yadda yadda again,,,>>

With wisdom comes the reality of your own mortality. To leave something behind, even it is your scalp on some man's lodge poll.

<<though a lot of good stuff started back when..thats taken for norm now gay rights,gender equality,enviromental awareness,etc.some kids today seem to want to further these ideas and more>>

As they should, just like we did. I pray just as well, or better.

<<outcasts get tired bucking the rules>> My new change comes with some very selfish reasons. I hope to get back to basics and clear my cluttered mind. I hope to die in peace knowing the good seed has been planted properly in the woods. I hope to take my broken wings and learn again to fly. But right now I'm tired. I may not make it past the gate very often. Maybe just knowing my kidz are in there and safe will have to do. It is still up in the air how much healing I will be able to do. How late it REALLY is. I pray I will be part of great councles for world peace and world healthcare. I will also pray that I can except it with the same humility and peace of mind. Change is scarry because of the unknown. I haven't left my house yet or wandered far from my woodstove. It's all still just talk. Please pray I understand, and make the grade in whatever I am called to do. Call it running from, hiding, searching, cleansing or whatever you will cuz here I come, if I'm ready or not.

Love and Peace

 

Sorry- It just seems alot of young people are complaining alot-Today; people in this country have a whole lot more freedom and the ability to do things then we did in the 60s-If you protest the war today' would you get beat up?-If you are a guy with long hair; would you have any problems anywhere in this country?-Would you be locked up by redneck local small town cops or have people throw shit at you just because you look different-?We had to fight for rights alot-it came at a price-Kent State-Chicago Demo Convention on and on- this is the part of the 60s that was not so much fun-but it was either lay back and bitch or get up and get together for changes-and stop a major war-In between getting loaded alot of people made big sacrafices---35 years ago you would get your ass kicked if ya went to the wrong states--much nicer now--enjoy it!

 

Hi Rob, i'm Rob.

I'm 24, and I must say that I vehemently disagree with you, I honestly believe you have been seduced by the melodic charms of our mega-corporate media, and wooed into a false sense of freedom and optimism when it regards your "rights" in all actuality, we have LESS rights and MORE trouble today than you did, yes, on the surface it appears that everything is hunky dory and we've made a great deal of progress, but you fail to look beyond the media/mainstream portrayal.

-I've had my ass beaten by seattle's finest at a WTO protest.
-I've had my ass beaten by DC's finest at the 4th of July smoke-in/NORML rally at LaFayette Park.
-I've been hassled by pigs at countless shows, on the street, traveling, even in my car, for no given reason, other than the fact that I was a "Person of Interest"
-I have long dreadlocks, and yeah, I do still have problems and I live in VERMONT, probably THE most progressive state out there, i've had difficulties finding a job, been jeered at, had people pull thier kids away from me (this really dehumanizes you), i've actually walked into a restaurant with my wife and we we're asked to pay up front (because they thought we didn't have any money) needless to say we left with a big "fuck you" ..............people are still ignorant when it comes to long hair/dreadlocks/ even patchwork clothes, they think your trying to rape thier culture or some such nonsense.
-I've been locked up for vagrancy before (i'm not broke) by small town cops (once in Maine, once in Colorado) and about 50% of the time if I get pulled over or go through a roadblock i'm asked to search, and since the good ol' Patriot Act (oh ya, we got it so much better right?) I do not have to give consent to search, and they don't need a warrant. Ever had your car ripped apart and your tires de-mounted with NOTHING found and your left to put it back together? (I have, 2x) You had NOTHING that compares to the Patriot Act, WE HAVE NO RIGHTS when it comes down to it.
The only thing that you said that I can agree with is that the general population doesen't throw rocks at us or beat on us, thankfully humans have become more tolerant, just not the government. Look around brother, open up your eyes, for every wonderful thing that was accomplished in yesteryear, our fascist capitalistic war machine has set us back 3x THAT!! Look at the control going on, look at the laws, EVERYTHING is severely regulated, you can be arrested for your THOUGHTS now!! (if they're on paper) If you write things like i'm writing right now, your labled a domestic terrorist (too late), we have no freedom, only the illusion of such, look at what's happening to the latin population right now, look at OUR war, the constitution is being shredded at record speed. Police brutality equates murder in alot of places now. Our military, at this very moment (since 2003) has been undergoing extensive training for handling DOMESTIC OCCUPATION (aka military rule) Brother I know it's nice to believe what you believe, makes you feel all warm and cuddly inside, false sense of security is the going theme for the majority of the population these days, but to deny the magnitude of what's actually going on, is to fall prey to the ideals that you once abhorred. I'm sure in the 60's/70's alot of people thought you were a whiner, however, the ante has been upped, you we're fighting for withdrawal from an unjust war, we are fighting for withdrawal from an unjust war, you we're fighting for the rights of minorities, we are fighting for the rights of minorities, alot of the ideals haven't changed, however current domestic policy is much much worse, you we're called a bum, a hippy, a lowlife, etc. We're being labeled terrorists, "american insurgents" Misled brothers are blowing up SUV's, and if this doesen't dictate corporate control I don't know what does, you can get 50 years for blowing up an suv where noone gets hurt but if you shoot a mexican dead at the border the minutemen will give you a commendation. Please wake up brother, your negative comments only add to the pending disaster, try to remember what you once we're, how you once thought, and leave your cynicism at the door...........I know you got it in you, we need HELP, not a bunch of people sitting around reminiscing, we are at a cruical point sociologically, all over the world, democracy only exists in the minds of the very misled and the very gullible.

 

alot do complain and many have right too .. i dunno bout the whole freedom thing,, seems to me although i wasnt htere there was alot more freedoms in ways we no longer have freedom,,,, and i dont really consider myself young nor can i go into the old category,,, i was those middle years where we just are........ like the other rob said,,, though ,, yes there is still trouble out there for those of us who dont fit into what society deems as appropriate,,,, no dreads here,,, but piercings, tats n rainbow colored hair for years(before they became kewl),,, had a good job all that n yet yes i was looked at as the freak druggedout weirdo in my small town,, i obviously had to be on drugs cuz aint no local like that iffin they ainthell you know how many times i was investigated by social services cuz my poor kids must be abused n neglected,,,, its insane .... mmmm m war,, ya dont think war is on minds of people now,,,

ah enuf of that,,, i dont feel like typing all that which those of us who live in this day n age already know,, aint what my postin was all about originally,,,, although that thought now has completely left the brain,,, on to bigger better things...

 

That was a great story-It sounded like I was living somewhere in Mexico or another 3rd world country-You do have good communication skills;I'll give ya that; but I stand behind every word I said-You do have more freedom now -even with the Patriot Act- which by the way has been around since WW2- thats not new-we locked up alot of Japanese people in this country into camps for "national security"-whatever that is-Both times; then and now are with the goal in mind of stopping the enemy-Hey-Makes sense to me-but only if you have the bad guys in ; which can be tough to tell at times of war; as there is alot of spy vs spy shit goin on- hard to tell the good guys from the bad in times of war-And from what I have seen; the general population is not being sent to Quantanomo- a select few-and they are terroists plain and simple bud-their are finally bringing them to trial ; which took way too long; but one by one they are having their day in court-one of the 911 assholes was up there last week-so-you think it is so bad to try to round up the people that murder thousands of innocent people doing nothing more then going to their office jobs in N.Y.?--What if that was your mother or brother buried under tons of rubble-?-So don't try telling me or anyone else how this is a police state and were all being watched and controlled-bla bla bla-thats pure tweeker paranoia talk-I sleep good-This president is lousy-plain and simple-he works for Exxon and Haliburton and yes we are over there mainly for the oil-and yes he is a liar-so?-Ever heard of Ronald Raygun or how about a guy named Richard Nixon-or J Edgar Hoover-you want to talk paranoia-this guy was head of the FBI and had the mob gaurding our docks and was a cross dresser on the side-As far as personal freedoms go-I can support my claims and so can anybody else my age who was marching and demanding to end the war in Nam-there will always be some people that will not like the way you think or look-thats a given-and sure there are still pockets of hate groups out there-but this is NOTHING- like it was 35 years ago-! Take the resentment your feeling and persacution dynamic and quaddrupple it- then do it again;welcome to 1960s America -now you maybe you won't feel so picked on-I am under no illusion that it's anywhere near perfect conditions out there and yea-you guy's have some work to do-I lived through it-my generation faught in the streets and believe me it was much bloodier then now-this is very mild--I know this all sounds pretty hard to believe but it is safer out there today then in the 60s-if you looked different-it was a nationwide thing to stop us freedom loving-long haired-draft dodgin hippies-O' yea-thats something else your not being put through (yet) The Draft-like or not one minute your an 18 year old kid-next week your in a fucking jungle killing people ya never even met-What me and many others my age are saying is this-get it together-organize and take it to the streets-why should it take a middle aged mother from middle America; who lost her son; to carry the ball-thats a disgrace-where is your leaders-?-Who is your spokes person? Where the one young person to form a large group and get it snowballing to the White House-?This is what needs to happen and it is' little by little but it's time for a major rally-Bottom line-if ya weren't there ya just can't see it-sorry-I know it's tough; but on this you are wrong and who cares?-Thats the question-it's not about then vs. now-but what about now and tommorro-will we be here?-I am retired with a new knee-can't walk too far now but if there is a protest march-I'll be there -it was wrong then (killing and lying ie. (Watergate and the famous Nixon Tapes) and it is still wrong now-but at least the KKK cut back on the hangings!-see! progress!

 

oh lordy we have another one here who thinks they know it all on account there older than most here..

the age old im grey i must be wise complex has reared its ugly head once again..

not only was his first post in this thread completely off topic an full of assumptions an arrogance,,now he must push his ego to its extreme..

ho hum,, same shit diffrent day...

 

I have never been "seduced" by anything-except by some very nice ladies in my life-And what the hell is "melodic charm"?-what a pussy word that is-kinda cute tho-but real far from accurate-you make so many stupid assumptions that I don't know where to start-but-when I was your age I wouldn't have listened to anyone my age either-so-thats to be expected-I use no drugs -alcohol or even smoke anything and my memory recall from those days is working fine-and I don't lie-ever-no need-I do not glorify drug use or advise doing them-but hey it's your life-everything I tell ya is as true as I can remember and I have absolutely no intention or motivation or any kinda reason to stretch the truth or re-invent history-it was a very bloody time -in the streets of America-There were the Watts riots-Berkeley protests every day and all over the country-it really was "us against them"--that being-pro war vs. no war-finally middle America figured out that the leaders lied again-whoops!-So-in closing-I want to wish you and all your generation a safe future and just know peace can be won-but it starts here at home-good luck-

 

ya know old feller,, yer shit would be a lot easier to read if ya would learn to break things into paragraphs,, or at the very least space out the sentances...

but beyond that,, why ya actin like such a holyer than thou know it all?

i really dont get the arrogance of folks like you..

 

COME BACK WHEN YOU HAVE WORTH SAYING-NONE OF YOUR POSTS ARE ABOUT ANYTHING-JIBBERISH-!-I have no better then thou attitude at all-I'm telling it like it is and the way it was-don't kill the messenger-If people want to whine-it's sickening-act like an adult and get involved instead of high-(which is real obvious in your posts)-sorry-not a putdown-general observation and recommendation-

 

wow,,

yer a classic..

luv n lite..