Better tell your Prime Minister we British Subjects need our guns rights restore .

LONDON - An alleged al-Qaida terrorist plotting a bomb attack on Britain told accomplices to sell contaminated beer at soccer games or poisoned hamburgers from street vending stalls, an FBI informant told a court Friday.

Waheed Mahmood, 34, accused with six other British men of plotting a terror strike, claimed during a meeting in Pakistan that he had already tested the poison plan, said the witness, Mohammed Junaid Babar.

Babar, 31, a U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent, has testified that he met a group of British Islamic militants in Pakistan who planned to bomb Britain's electricity network, a London nightclub or one of Europe's largest shopping malls, a 330-store center in southern England.

Babar, who secretly pleaded guilty to several terrorist offenses in New York federal court, including having links with al-Qaida, said the poison plan was raised by Mahmood during a meeting at the Pakistan home of another suspect, Salahuddin Amin, in a village outside Lahore, Pakistan, in February 2003.

Babar, who was escorted by two U.S. marshals and protected by armed British officers outside the courtroom doors, claimed Mahmood said "you could get a job in a soccer stadium as a beer vendor."

"You just put poison in a syringe, inject it in a beer can and put a sticker on it, which would stop it leaking, and hand them out," Babar said, recounting Mahmood's proposal.

He said he also suggested getting "a mobile vending cart selling burgers, just poison those. You could set up a shop on a street corner and sell poisoned burgers and then all you have to do is leave the area."

Omar Khyam, 24; Anthony Garcia, 24; Nabel Hussain, 20; Jawad Akbar, 22; Mahmood; Shujah ud Din Mahmood, 19; and Amin, 31 _ face life imprisonment if convicted of a charge of conspiring to cause an explosion.

Babar, who had worked for a Pakistani software firm, said that in March 2003 Wahid Mahmood had asked for three computers for "the brothers," which he said he took to mean for "members of al-Qaida."

In late April 2002, he showed Mahmood a secret weapons store, close to his home in Lahore, and told him "to take them if he needed them," Babar said.

"There were AK-47s and AK-47 magazines, about 2,000 to 3,000 rounds of ammunition and grenades," Babar said. "We had buried them in the area outside Punjab University."

He said both Khyam and Amin had told him on trips to Pakistan that they were working for a man called Abu Hadi, who "was the No. 3 in al-Qaida."

Khyam, Garcia and Hussain deny a second charge of possession of ammonium nitrate fertilizer for possible use in terrorism. Khyam and Shujah ud Din Mahmood, who are brothers, also deny a charge of possession of aluminum powder for possible use in terrorism.
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that is awful, but at least they got caught. however i see no real correlation with this story and the title of the thread. what would gun rights do? i really do not want to get into another debate over guns, but the one thing i am proud of in this country is that we don't have the right to own guns.

unless you are suggesting that as citizens we should go out and 'pick' off any suspisious looking characters. as the example given, football supporters could of taken the guns to the match , and after been poisened, shot the terrorists, right???

 

The most rediculus thing i ever heard from a British Subject.

 

and your correlation between terrorist attacks and gun ownerships laws is also ridiculous! show me an example how they correlate and i may even take your view seriously.

how dare i dislike an instrument made for killing

 

Most people are violent sometimes, and if there is a gun around, they might use it.
If there's no gun around, you can't shoot someone. I think the less guns we have the better.
Peace

 

in switzerland most people of military age have a automatic weapon in their house this is a military assualt weapon they have a very low murder rate and very very very low rate of people using their assault weapon to kill people .

in world war two you had the home gaurd in this country and lots of people had granades and sten guns and god knows what else in their houses and again very few of these weapons were used in crime .

 

Guns will just make everything worse...Look at what happened last year.

 

what happened last year?

 

and I dont see guns being that useful if people are planning on poisoning peoples beer as in the original post .

but guns of themselves are not the problem otherwise people in the home gaurd or the swiss would all go mad .

 

yeah we shouldn't let this get into another gun debate, my point was the original poster didn't correlate a link between the title and the actual post.
peace, love and sunflowers

 

in that case get rid of knives as thousands are kill each year by stabing, long screwdriver, aluminum bats and british soccer games and dont forger gasoline, box cutters, oh and vehicles they only kill 400.000 american each year.

 

why don't you answer the question? why did you correlate gun usage with terrorism in this case??

and by your logic, should all human be allowed all types of guns, y'know for gang attacks, say a machine gun??

knives, vehicles etc have other main uses, and are not intended initially to do another human harm.

you need to realise british society is different to american.
please answer the question, and not turnb this into a gun debate, because you will not change my mind on this issue

 

so do guns , ;lets hope whem some criminal or crazy muslim is about to behead you you wish you had a small 38 caliber revolver but im sure love to ger stab and beheaded or beat to death becouse your goverment told you is was political correct.

 

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An innocent man (Menezes) getting gunned down by the police in London last year, thinking he was a terroist.

 

why do you never answer any question posed to you. guns can be had if used for such other uses as hunting, although i do not agree with hunting, it does happen. so give me a use that I as a citizen would use my gun for??

you are making no sense, i have many muslim friends, and you are been terribel offensive in your comments here. and i am not sure of the last time in the UK, a beheading by a muslim happened. i would be surprised if ever.

try answering the question pose or even making sense before your next reply, i would really appreciate it.

 

actually your soccer games are far more deadly that our restaunts shooting .

 

i guess man did not kill millions before guns were ivented i mean a sword thru your guts or a knive wont kill you that goes for arrows, clubs and lance . i forgot vehicles make winderfull killing machines . i could drive a land rover thru a school play ground and kill more people quicly than the best hand guns .

 

I dunno why furriners think there ain't people in the UK with guns...... there are literally tens of thousands of 'em...... it's called The Army *shrugs*

 

yes but the swiss are better than the those inbred english man and not as dumb either.

 

and you must be 12 years old.