Regarding the illegal immigration issue

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Pressed_Rat, Mar 29, 2006.

  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    The recent illegal immigration protests have received a lot of media coverage over the past several days. The media has done everything it can to cast the protests in a positive light, ignoring some important facts that I will briefly cover in a minute.

    Most people don't understand that the globalists in control of this country want open borders. This is because they eventually want to do away with borders completely, creating what will be known as the Pan-American Union (another step vital to the implementation of a world government). Bush has done absolutely nothing to secure the borders, while the rights of American citizens are being taken away in the name of so-called "national security." Despite the fact the upwards of 85% of Americans believe the border situation poses a serious problem, Bush has done nothing to attempt to rectify this problem. This is because a puppet like Bush does not work for the American people, but rather his globalist handlers working on behalf of the London and Wall Street based central bankers. Bush's "worker program" is nothing more than blanket amnesty.

    Unimpeded illegal immigration benefits the Elite immensely, as it helps to bring down wages and lower the living standard of American citizens, which is all part of the New World Order plan to destroy America, turning it into a third world cesspool.

    People who speak against illegal immigration are often portrayed as "racist" by the mainstream media, when in fact large elements of this illegal immigration movement are promoting the killing of all "white people" under the age of 16 (see the Plan of San Diego) and believe that America is their's and should be handed back to them. So who is funding the groups that are pushing this propaganda? Well, of course the multinational corporations and non-government organizations (NGO's) like the Ford Foundation and Carnegie Endowment are. You have to ask yourself why.

    I am all for immigration if it's done in a reasonable matter, but once you understand the current agenda, and how illegal immigrants themselves are being used by the globalists, you can't help but be against what is happening.

    The globalists love chaos, and they long to create racial conflict. It comes as no surprise that groups such as Aztlan and La Raza are being funded by the corporate and banking Elite.
     
  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/290306ethniccleansing.htm


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    'Immigration Protests' Cover For Racist Ethnic Cleansing Movement
    Atzlan and Mexican Klan groups rejoice at start of 'la reconquista'

    Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | March 29 2006

    At the height of last year's French riots, Voz de Aztlan leader Ernesto Cienfuegos stated that similar scenes of chaos would be witnessed on the streets of America. As reports of violence begin to filter through, a deliberately fomented race war hiding behind an immigration debate creeps ever closer.

    "Today, here in Los Angeles, we are already seeing ominous signs of an impending social explosion that will make the French rebellion by Muslim and immigrant youths seem 'tame' by comparison," said Cienfuegos on November 8.

    "All the ingredients are present including a hostile and racist police as in France. In fact, we came close to having major riots on three separate occasions just this year alone."

    As the mainstream controlled media reports the immigration protests as peaceful and affords them a wealth of credence and credibility, ignoring the plethora of foreign flags compared to US flags, turn to Mexican TV news stations and you will encounter radical proselytizing about enacting the brutal plan of the invasion and takeover of the southern and western American states.

    Aztlan's goal, known as la reconquista, is to cede and take over the entirety of the southern states by any means necessary and impose a Communist militant dictatorship. President Bush's blanket amnesty program goes a long way to helping the extremists achieve their aim.

    Despite the fact that the majority of documented Hispanics oppose illegal immigration, as do the majority of Americans, Aztlan and La Raca race hate groups have become the self-appointed voice for a separatist movement that threatens a violent overthrow of the Constitutional system and a barbaric program of ethnic cleansing. This is held up by the media as 'diversity' and to vociferously oppose it is scorned as racism.

    Aztlan and Mecha groups advocate killing all whites and blacks and driving them out of the southern states by means of brutal ethnic cleansing. Flags and placards carried at marches depict white people having their heads cut off, as seen in the picture below.

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    Those that protest such groups are then attacked by the establishment media and labeled as racists, despite the fact that the Plan of San Diego, a rallying cry for the Hispanic Klan groups, advocates total eradication of any race but Hispanics.

    Mecha's own slogan reads, "For the race everything. For those outside the race, nothing."

    TV stations owned by rich white industrialists erect giant billboards in Los Angeles claiming the city belongs to Mexico, as seen below.

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    Mainstream Hispanics who love America abhor the virulent racism that the Mexican Klan groups embrace.

    And who bankrolls these pocket radicals? Billionaire tax-exempt foundations and NGO's owned by white men. Organizations like the Ford Foundation, groups who are zealous in their quest to eliminate the middle class and destroy America, turning it into a cashless society, compact city, surveillance control grid where only two tiers of society exist - the elite and the poor slaves.

    The Atzlan website today carries the following comments.

    "If the racist "Sensenbrenner Legislation" passes the US Senate, there is no doubt that a massive civil disobedience movement will emerge. Eventually labor union power can merge with the immigrant civil rights and "Immigrant Sanctuary" movements to enable us to either form a new political party or to do heavy duty reforming of the existing Democratic Party. The next and final steps would follow and that is to elect our own governors of all the states within Aztlan."

    Here is the open call for violent separatism and the overthrow of existing state government structures.

    A sizeable proportion of the secular humanist Westerners who like to think of themselves as part of the establishment, when in reality they are unwitting tools of the true elite, have bought into the cuddly utopian philosophy that the West is a global village which welcomes all comers and has the enlightened innate ability to homogenize millions of different people of all different colors and creeds into one giant melting pot.

    The reality couldn't be further from the truth and last year's images of flaming buses, schools, nurseries, terror and panic in France betray that fact. Protests over changes in employment laws have flared into riots and we are now witnessing similar scenes on the streets of Paris as we saw last November.

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    The real power behind the clash of civilizations lies with Globalists, in whose interest it is to foment race wars. Their vision of the Western world can best be described as a corporate fascist high tech slave plantation, with all the proles packed into high rise compact cities. The middle class simply won't exist.

    Every major minority movement throughout history has been infiltrated and steered by the elite in an attempt to obtain these objectives.

    The elite want us to be at each others throats while they dominate over the downtrodden and befuddled warring tribes. Race is the ultimate touchstone hot button issue and the Globalists have enacted policies of rampant uncontrolled immigration in order to force hostile cultures to intermingle. The outcome is always tribal warfare, as we saw in Bosnia and Kosovo.

    The Mexican Klan must be opposed at every turn if we are to prevent America being fed to the dogs of racial purity and ethnic cleansing, an ideology that was supposedly defeated in 1940's Germany but is openly called for today while the groups carrying it out are protected and funded by the establishment.
     
  3. nudeinthesand

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    the whole world is fucked up.....i'm sick an tired of all this bullshit nowadays....it's never going to end
     
  4. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    making immigration a felony just sounds stupid and expensive to me. i wonder where the conspiracy people were when the irish were flooding through the gates...immigration and cultural change are what keep a society from stagnating. they're fresh ideas, beliefs, attitudes and practices. mexicans aren't stealing jobs, they're creating competition to get lazy american bastards off their asses. i consider this a good thing.
     
  5. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    though that picture up there of "this is our continent, not yours" is really funny to me because i think they're assinine. i don't care who was "here first." that's just a load of crap.
     
  6. Megara

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    uh? italians and irish were the boogeyman not that long ago.
     
  7. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    i'm not missing the point. i'm against illegal immigration, too. very risky, very expensive. but felonizing it would just make it even more expensive.

    and, megara, that was exactly my point. every fresh wave of immigrants is demonized. people feel their culture or bloodline threatened and go all irrational about it, forgetting completely that there are very few "pure" bloodlines, and even fewer "untainted" societies. i'm the child of halfbreed, half cherokee, half '****** of europe' mick as my mother's father used to call them. seems to me everyone gets their turn in the barrel.
     
  8. Soulless||Chaos

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    Yeah that is a good thing... :D For the corporations, as it creates a larger supply of workers than the demand for them bringing down pay. :rolleyes: However for the people it fucking blows. :D
     
  9. Pointbreak

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    This is:

    A) Total bullshit

    B) Incitement to racial hatred.

    Its funny, because it kind of turns things on their head and says "THE MEXICANS ARE RACISTS WHO WANT TO KILL YOU", so therefore we have to keep the Mexicans out of the US since the Mexicans are racist. You don't have to look very closely to see a very odd contradiction in that logic.
     
  10. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Again, you are an idiot.

    What I am talking about is the fact multinational corporations and NGO's are funding the groups that support these radical ideologies. I didn't say ALL Mexicans are in support of it. Being the neocon LIAR you are, it makes sense that you would twist words around.

    Secondly, the Plan of San Diego IS real, and you can read about it here:

    http://www.infowars.com/articles/immigration/deisyseis_partone.htm#plan

    Before you attack the messenger instead of the message, understand that this description originated from a site other than Infowars.
     
  11. Pointbreak

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    I didn't lie, I quoted you. You said "large elements of this illegal immigration movement are promoting the killing of all 'white people' under the age of 16". This was and is complete bullshit. Don't like it? Then you shouldn't have said it. Large elements of the movement are promoting no such thing. Your article, written by racist morons, goes looking for the most extremist mexican group they can find and then pretends that this group is representative of mexicans in the US in order to stir up fear and hatred. It is a race-baiting lie, and you are helping to spread it around.

    And the Plan of San Diego is from a hundred years ago. The message is bullshit and the messenger is a moron.
     
  12. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Yet, hundreds of people at the rallys could be seen wearing shirts and holding up signs talking about it. Of course the media didn't focus on this, but why would they?

    If anyone is racist, it is your socialist buddies in high positions of power who are engineering this racial tension we are seeing.
     
  13. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Hm. I do believe there are a few nutjobs out there with their own militias created for a cause. But this is nothing new within the United States, whatsoever.
     
  14. Motion

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    Bush:

    " This new system will be more compassionate. Decent, hardworking people will now be protected by labor laws, with the right to change jobs, earn fair wages and enjoy the same working conditions that the law requires for American workers," he said.

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    National Council Of La Raza:


    " By legalizing immigrants who live, work, and contribute to life in the U.S., the U.S. could deal fairly with hardworking people who have responded to an economic reality that has been ignored by the law. At the same time, a temporary worker program that responds to the U.S. labor needs in a regulated, orderly fashion – while breaking precedent by providing for full labor rights – is better equipped to deal with future flows of migrant workers. Finally, family visa backlogs must be eliminated so that families can be reunited in the U.S."

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    I'am just curious about something. Bush and the National Council of La Raza seem to have some similarities with their immigration reform proposals as far as removing the illegality of the presence of Illegal immigrants in the U.S(guess workers). I'd think this would actually be a good thing. Because if you look at what both Bush and the NCLR are proposing,it would make it so that American employers can't pay them below minimum wage and would give them other labor rights as other Americans. This would give these immigrants the work status of any American worker,and wouldn't this keep U.S employers from hiring them cheaply and would off-set immigrant labor from depressing U.S wages? And wouldn't this keep low wages from hurting any employment opportunities for U.S workers?
     
  15. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Well, never forget there is always a difference between what politicians say and what they do. Bush says he is against amnesty, when his so-called worker program is blanket amnesty. How can anybody believe what Bush says, when the majority of it is distortion and lies?

    Also, it needs to be addressed that a good number of illegals are working off the books.

    I also feel compelled to ask, why should people who are in this country ILLEGALLY be entitled to the same rights as hard-working American citizens? Bush couldn't care less about the rights of these people. He only cares about making what's illegal and unpopular, legal and popular in the name of globalism.

    Do you honestly believe that Bush has what's best for these people - let alone American citizens - in mind?
     
  16. Pointbreak

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    You're the one spreading a ridiculous and completely unsubstantiated claim that Mexicans want to kill all white people under 16. Are you really so stupid that you can believe you are doing this to stop racism? I think you are the perfect example of how people can be manipulated into believing anything, no matter how ridiculous.
     
  17. Oz!

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    why don't they just make the hiring of illegal immigrants to work a federal offence? surely places of employment are much easier to police than borders?


    oh wait, i think they tried to do that once.....and all the farmers unions threatened to strike didn't they?

    odd country......
     
  18. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    yeah, it IS illegal to hire illegal immigrants, but not a felony, i think. i think that would definitely be the better option. HUGE fines against the employers would solve that without costing nearly as much.
     
  19. Pointbreak

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    Why don't they just make drugs illegal? That will solve the problem.
     
  20. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    lol. you've got us there. but i think that independant contractors have a lot to lose, and to risk heavy fines and penalties would be too much for some. though there are those who wouldn't care, though.
     
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