Greece does not want gays in its armed forces

A rate this modern internacional gay spartans are movin the only cadaver well be the muslims/

 

Oh ok, got you.

However I'm sure they will bark, Greece will be under immense pressure over this I'm sure.

 

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So , don't forget then to show me their barking by posting links, I am eager to see it. Thank you in advance =) I am wondering , How their bark will be, the same or less? I wish they won't bark just to show the others that they against the DS, however, let's wait.​

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Cat, maybe you're talking about certain journalists or something, but if those same journalists ignore the situation in Greece then you can bet your bottom dollar that pressure will come from other sources. Trust me, criticism of homosexuality is frowned upon by so many these days. I don't know where you're from but here in the west it seems to be the fashion to defend gay people and bark at the people who oppose them. Like I say I'm against it, and I get my share of barking at me.

I do see your point, but I predict there'll be so much pressure on the Greek armed forces over this they will change their policy, as much as I would not like to see that happen.

Peace & love.

 

At the beginning they are talking about Persian King Xerxe's army that is poised to conquer Europe and on the other side we have the birth of western civilization in the form of city state Athens that has just formed a democracy (this is almost 2500 years ago). The speaker states that this encounter between Greeks and despotic Persians would not have been an ordinary one and it would in effect be a clash of east versus west. The Greek warriors of sparta under leadership of their kind Leonidas are the ones to defend the west's freedom although sparta is not really a birthing ground for saviors of the free world but it is a police state where thousands of slaves live in fear.



Speaker mentions that sparta was really a nightmare society based on a harsh exploitation of the oppressed class. Spartan approach to discipline and training was extremely effective in creating the ancient worlds finest military fighting force. It is tradition and philosophy that has not been lost on toady's US marines. A US army trainer states that the idea was for the Spartan force, as much as for the all western armies, to be aggressive and to day advancing. Fighting Xerxes would transform the dark warriors in the eyes of history. English female speaker (Edith Hall, Durham Univercity) states that either sparta's king must die or sparta itself must fall. In the epic battle between east and west Leonidas and his men will fall down as heroes and their battel will become a legend.



2500 Years ago Greek valleys teamed with Persian invaders, armies whose men and their beasts made Greek rivers dry. Vast fleets shadowed the Greek coast. This is what power looked like to people of the ancient Greece, the largest invasion force hit Europe until the D-day on June 1944 commanded by King Xerxes, the absolute ruler of the Persian empire. Xerxes had so many men that his victory was a forgone conclusion but he did not realize how hard free men would fight for their way of life and he had never seen the damage that fabled warriors of sparta could inflict even on the mightiest of foes.

 

In Sparta a healthy boy like Leonidas would have been allowed to live and so begin his life long duty to the state. At the age of 7 a boy would have been removed from his family and though the Spartan ways. Living together in barracks the boys learn comradeship and deprived of all conforts they were molded through extreme hardship.

A person from a very early age would have to learn how to hunt, would go barefooted, would have to learn to survive on its own in the wilds.

The were deliberately given not enough to eat and also they were encouraged to steal to augment their media rations and they were whipped if they were caught, not because stealing was a crime but because they were clumsy thief's.

And the eyes of Sparta were everyone weeding out the weak and lazy. When Leonidas would have hit puberty a Spartan mentor would have taken him under his wing.

(Paul Cartridge, U. of Cambridge) Spartan girls were given some sort of formal education and they had some sort of exercise, allegedly naked, in front of the boys. The aim being for them to be, when they married and they married late by Greek standards, educated, brought up in such ways to be able to survive the riges of childbirth. Ideally they gave birth to boys because Sparta was a fundamentally a military society so the whole system is geared to producing largest number physically fittest fighting males.

(Peter Green, U.of Texas) One of the things that always amazes me is that they ever manage to produce children because they were encouraged to go into sort of military homosexual relationships until they were allowed to marry.

(Anton Powel, University of Wales, Swansea) The Spartans may wel be fighting next to their boyfriends. Homosexuality was though to bind men to their peers. It was your job with your shield and your own spear to guard your lover , that was part of the cement that kept the Spartan battle line together. Homosexuality was very common in Sparta and it was positivly looked on - provided it didnt stop men breeding.

(Main Speaker) The Spartan population was perilously small so there were laws designed to spice up the sex lives of married couples.

(Anton Powel, University of Wales, Swansea) A Spartan man wasnt allowed to see his wife in daylight for the first ten years or so of their marriage. A man was encouraged to see his wife as a splendid sex object. Emotional development is something we did not want because families were a source of peculiarity. Spartans wanted to produce similars, they wanted them wheeling on a battlefield , one mind like a flook of birds.

(Main Speaker) At age 20, Leonidas would have joined Spartan ranks. His duty -- to fight for Sparta until he was sixty or dead. He would have be given Sparta's trademark, red cloak, the only uniform in Greece designed to hide blood -- whether that of his own of that of one of his victims. Leonidas would have also been required to grow his hair into long locks.

(Anton Powel, University of Wales, Swansea) Sparta's hair is meant to intimidate, it was long, it bristled, these were Spartan dreadlocks. They were for the enemy to dread. When someone looked at a Spartiate they were meant to draw a message about Spartan society. This man is terrifying. Look at the size of him, the length of his hair, blood red cover of his cloak, look at the rest of them there too. They are calling attention to themselves -- masters of the universe.

 

Anton Powel, University of Wales, Swansea) The Spartans may wel be fighting next to their boyfriends. Homosexuality was though to bind men to their peers. It was your job with your shield and your own spear to guard your lover , that was part of the cement that kept the Spartan battle line together. Homosexuality was very common in Sparta and it was positivly looked on - provided it didnt stop men breeding.

(Main Speaker) The Spartan population was perilously small so there were laws designed to spice up the sex lives of married couples.

(Anton Powel, University of Wales, Swansea) A Spartan man wasnt allowed to see his wife in daylight for the first ten years or so of their marriage. A man was encouraged to see his wife as a splendid sex object. Emotional development is something we did not want because families were a source of peculiarity. Spartans wanted to produce similars, they wanted them wheeling on a battlefield , one mind like a flook of birds.

(Main Speaker) At age 20, Leonidas would have joined Spartan ranks. His duty -- to fight for Sparta until he was sixty or dead. He would have be given Sparta's trademark, red cloak, the only uniform in Greece designed to hide blood -- whether that of his own of that of one of his victims. Leonidas would have also been required to grow his hair into long locks.

 

The Battle of Salamis : The Naval Encounter That Saved Greece -- and Western Civilization

 

The battle of Salamis in 480 B.C. was the most important naval encounter of the ancient world. In the narrow strait between the island of Salamis and the Greek mainland, a heavily outnumbered Greek navy defeated the Persian armada in a victory that is still studied today. The Greek triumph at Salamis stopped the advancing Persians and saved the first democracy in history. It made Athens the dominant city in Greece, gave birth to the Athenian empire, and set the stage for the Age of Pericles. On the Persian side, the battle of Salamis also featured history's first female admiral and sailors from three continents." The Battle of Salamis features some of the most fascinating figures in the ancient world: Themistocles, the Athenian commander who masterminded the victory (and tricked his fellow Greeks into fighting); Xerxes, the Persian king who understood land but not naval warfare; Aeschylus, the Greek playwright who took part at Salamis and later immortalized it in drama; and Artemisia, the half-Greek queen who was one of Xerxes' trusted commanders and who turned defeat into personal victory.

FROM THE CRITICS

Bernard Knox - The Washington Post

Strauss gives a clear and fascinating account, made easy to follow by his sketch-maps, of the maneuvers that led up to the battle: the Greek fleet at Artemisium successfully testing the mettle of the Persians; the breakthrough of the Persians at Thermopylae, where a force of 300 Spartans had held it up for three days in the narrows between mountains and the sea; the swift transfer of the Greek fleet to Salamis, where the Athenians evacuated their women, children and old men from Athens and the Persian army destroyed the city; the arrival of the Persian fleet at Phaleron on the Attic coast opposite Salamis; and the preliminaries of the battle, including the erection of a throne on Mount Aegaleos from which Xerxes could watch the climactic battle of the two fleets.

 

Strauss gives a clear and fascinating account, made easy to follow by his sketch-maps, of the maneuvers that led up to the battle: the Greek fleet at Artemisium successfully testing the mettle of the Persians; the breakthrough of the Persians at Thermopylae, where a force of 300 Spartans had held it up for three days in the narrows between mountains and the sea; the swift transfer of the Greek fleet to Salamis, where the Athenians evacuated their women, children and old men from Athens and the Persian army destroyed the city; the arrival of the Persian fleet at Phaleron on the Attic coast opposite Salamis; and the preliminaries of the battle, including the erection of a throne on Mount Aegaleos from which Xerxes could watch the climactic battle of the two fleets.

 

Landmark Battles in the Rise of Western Power Barry Strauss is one of the best ancient naval historians alive, and in The Battle of Salamis he combines his classical expertise with his natural gifts as a storyteller to make the inexplicable Greek victory not just explicable — but captivating as well. The ensuing drama is as riveting as it is historically accurate. — Victor Davis Hanson

Led by a shrewd and bold commander, the sailors of the world's first democracy — badly outnumbered, their capital destroyed — drew strength from their freedom and crushed the forces of the massive Persian Empire to save the dawning of Western Civilization

 

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The this is DS​

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Much & More Peace and love =) ​

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too many moons shadows.

 

I'm against homosexuality.

 

you be in a very ackward position if you even try that supid stunt on me .

 

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