"Hippie" closer to Jesus than "Christianity"

It is apparent to anyone with eyes, who has read the sayings of Jesus that "Christianity" isn't anything like what Jesus said.

No, he spoke of peace, love, justice, and equality. He wandered from place to place. Fed the poor, cared for the sick and afflicted, visited prisoners, taught us not to be judgmental or vengeful, taught us about being one with the "I AM" conciousness, hung out with prostitutes, and drank wine with "sinners". Said to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's (taxes, etc.) and unto "God" that which is "God"--personal liberties which the government has no business dictating.

Jesus is described in the Bible or in later renditions as having long hair (shameful according to St. Paul), wore either sandals or went barefoot, wore a beard (they plucked at it according to the Bible), and pissed off the religious
crowd.

This sounds extremely close to the Conservative Christian's worst nightmare: A DIRTY, LIBERAL HIPPIE!

The so-called followers "Christians" love rules. They love to judge. They love to make personal fortunes. They love to gather up treasures here on earth. They love to pretend they are righteous, while doing everything Jesus hated. They do nothing Jesus loved.

Sure they give a little money to some "ministry", but how often are they out and about the "father's business"--feeding the poor, tending to the sick, visiting the prisoners, GIVING some of their possessions away, paying their fair share of taxes (without trying to loophole), sitting with prostitutes and drunkards, etc. HA HA...never!

Ok, they may help out some poor families in a soup kitchen once a month or have a "Secret Santa" for kids on Christmas...whoop de doo! "SINNERS" do that!

I have been involved in volunteer work for a long time. I have done much of what Jesus commanded to do--does that make me a "Christian"?

I don't claim to be a "Christian", but I can't diss what Jesus said because it is the truth about love here and now.

I don't put him on some pedestal or wear him around my neck, but it isn't too hard to do what he asked--unless you have some reputation to uphold around your conservative buddies.

Hippie closer to Jesus? Seems so. Hell, in my case...even an atheist!

 

Again your bias shows. Not all Christians are conservative. There's tons of moderate and liberal as liberal could be Christians as well. I consider myself a moderate but I tend to lean more to the left than the right on most issues. Not all Christians are 50 year old Republicans who feel like Rush was railroaded and want to punch flagburners in the nose. There's denominations of all kinds. There's Christians in other countries feeding the poor. Fighting for the oppressed. Lots who don't cheat on their taxes. Don't download illegal mp3s. Don't think less fortunate people just need better jobs. There's also been hippies who get into the lifestyle for just the free love aspect of it and ignore
the activist side. There's also religions outside of Christianity that bomb buildings. There's also people of every color in jail. There's also women out there that can't do some jobs as good as a man. If any of those people are stereotyped it's wrong.

 

libertine man ............why must you labell christians and conservatives as one ? i can assure you now as a christian .......i hate (quote ) hate conservatism...................have yer built lbertines hotel yet ?....... .............any chanch of a bit of ocean colour scene or john lennon on yer jukebox ?.......................cheers man .............pssst ......plz no smokin ban in that hotel of yours lad .........."

 

Libertine Motel : If You Don't Have A Good Time...It's Your Own Fault!

 

"hippie closer to jesus" ;-( i hope not, for "jesus" is the "imag"ined name given
to one-head of the three-headed pagan "catholic/christian" "god" some 500
years ago.......period....... no apostle, disciple, no believer, no one called
The Messiah "jesus" till the 16th century, which was some 1600 years after
The Messiah was resurrected from among the dead by His GOD and Father,
HE WHO is "The ONE GOD, Father of All", HE WHO is The GOD and Father of
The Messiah's Brethren ;-)

The LIES of the pagan "catholic/christian" whore have been spewed forth for
so long, by so many, that the only "truth" her captives know is a LIE! and the
LIES are all proferred in the name of their "imag"ined pagan "god" "jesus" ;-(

"The Way of Truth is evil spoken of", and multitudes are atheistic, because so
many believe The LIES ;-( the whorelike "catholic/chrisitan" harlots are but
religious systems of this world and fornicate with "the god of this world", he
who is "the father of lies", he who is "d"evil ;-(

i have posted all this previously, yet what caused me to respond to your post
was a quote from The Testimonies you made concerning "taxes" ;-(

"render unto ceasar that which is ceasar's and unto GOD that which is GOD's".

first i would question, "What is GOD's?"

and i would add, where is "the pond i am to cast a line into to catch the
fish in whose mouth the coin to pay my tax is"?

rightly understanding destroys The LIES of the "catholic/christian" whore!

and the "ceasar's"? all are of this world and serve "the god of this world"! for
The Testimonies and experience both clearly testify, "The WHOLE world is
under the control of "d"evil one" ;-( that's why believers are "in, yet not of,
this world"!

The Messiah testified of a "wicked, evil world", John testified, "love not the
world or it's things" and "if any man loves this world the love of The Father is
not in him" for "the WHOLE world is under the control of the evil one" and
James testified, "whoever is a friend of this world is the enemy of The Only
True GOD"!

and those of this world and it's religious systems?

they are of those who "The Creator will destroy for they are destroying HIS
Creation(earth/air/water/creatures)" ;-(

yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

Miracles do happen!

may there be those who believe and receive The Miracle of Truth!

peace, in spite of the wars(spiritual and carnal) that rage....... francis

yes, i did respond. forgive me my inability to remain silent regarding the post!
Father Help! and HE does.......

 

well said libertine. and he isn't classifying all christens as conservative at all. instead of discussing the point he has made, all you can say is "not all christens are conservative." pretty weak reply. of course they all aren't. and there are christens who do live as christ did. but, a large majority don't, and that's the point he is trying to make.

 

yes.

...tis very true of much of organized christianity.

and its Christ who puts 'you' on a pedestal...

Jesus loves you!

 

Okay, I'll explain this again. All 16 year olds are immature and shouldn't be in this conversation. Am I right for saying that? Of course I'm not. Because, that is biggotry. So, if you make a blanket statement like that you've already started off with a bias that clouds the rest of your point.Why was that difficult?

 

This is absolutely true. The christian religion has been infiltrated by individuals who were hell bent on promoting their self-serving agendas over spiritual integrity.

It's interesting that you make this analogy as I've never made that connection. Unfortuantely, the concept of liberty hadn't been considered even back then.

Right! Let's remember that Paul was Roman and shaving and short hair were considered the 'proper grooming standard' for men in that culture.

..which breaks the commandment forbidding the use of the Lord's name in vain!

AFAIC, many of these token gestures of 'charity' are just that! They are not done out of humility. If Jesus-or someone like him-were to ever return to earth, the people he probably would look down upon most would be the self-righteous zealots and bigots who claim to represent him. As I see it, the worst offenders are those of a fundamentalist orientation as well as those of a 'traditionalist' perspective (e.g. Roman Catholic, etc.), not to mention cultists.

You're probably more of a christian than most who claim to profess belief in Jesus! You practice what you believe and you do goodwill to your fellowman. From what I've read of this and some of your other posts, you seem to be an upstanding member of your community. I think that's all someone can ask!

Again, you're totally correct! Moreover, 'wearing your faith on your sleeve' by wearing 'religious' jewelry, displaying statues or whatever so blatently AFAIC is considered a form of blasphemy! It doesn't matter how many times you speak a 'holy' name, wear a 'religious' symbol or similar slogan, 'witness' to others or whatever, what matters most is what is in your heart and how you behave!

Some enlightened people might argue that you're probably right and that you may be more of a follower of Jesus than you realize!

 

I agree with the first part but that last idea is absurd...most? I don't think that's accurate at all.

This is 'much' of christianity, with hanger ons from pagan influence amid the catholic church. The icons and symbols of Christ are relics of the 'indulgences' era. If you look at Greek Orthodoxy, a Christian demonination, iconic worship is cornerstone to the doctrine of the church. How about the snake handling christian churches? Unfortunately 'Christianity' is a melting pot religion. For those who, like Luther, seek refinement amid the current trend, Christianity is word to flee from.

 

Good point.
But i think if you took off the blanket statements and just read it for the context, the guys got a real point.

 

Yeah, and something I don't get is, how supposedly "good deeds" don't get you into heaven, "bad deeds" get you into hell, you're suppose to follow Jesus who did "good deeds"

but then were suppose to just sit there and sing and praise instead of helping doing something, i am the way the truth and the light and the only way to get to the father is through me,

Does that mean, "just pray to me" or through me as in, do what i did??

 

I think it actually means both. Through my teachings and giving my life for you.