Crystal Meth

Whats up with the weird tweaker jaw? I always notice tweakers with oddly shapen half sunken, half jutting out jaws. Not everyone has this, but I see it quite often.

 

i think its safe to say mEth is fucking stupid its Probably one of the only drugs i wont even try ike dxm and fucking pcp and that shit

 

dxm is good

 

so is pcp.

they both have their utilities, as does desoxyn (methamphetamine); the latter happens to be more psychologically addictive.

some of these drugs aren't any more "bad" than others, they have utility.
for the most part, the "bad" comes from degenerate human behavior; or a chemical compound may just not interact compatibly with metabolism/neurotransmission.

 

did she lose some teeth? also, some people clench their jaws alot when tweaked out.

the damage to teeth results from bacterial erosion of the teeth; people like to drink sodas, for some reason, while tweaked out; anything with lots of sugars will do this to teeth, because of the suppressed salivary response (saliva is slightly acidic, and aids in killing bacteria).

 

meth is not speed, speed is amphetamines, wich can be nice once in a while

 

Anything involving rednecks and science I'm going to stay away from.

 

"Meth" is short for Methamphetamine.
Stronger version of speed.

Before imitating Jim Morrison too much, try enjoying being young first.

 

Smile a little too.

 

speed is what we call any sorta powdered amphetamine, methamphetamine is most common

 

polymer: I have heard that meth smoke is "corrosive" somehow to your teeth, is this true? I have not heard any scientific explanation so I don't really believe it, but at the same time you gotta wonder why all tweakers' teeth are worn to shit.

 

They grit their teeth a lot, plus most people don't care about their hygeine, they're just worried about how their getting their next fix...at least the real bad ones...

 

Yea that's basically what I had in mind cause it makes sense, junkies only got scoring on their mind, but I still wonder if that smoke is corrosive somehow.

 

Ill try to find a very good article online about Meth addicts and the teeth corrosion. Not only do they have high sugar and caffiene comsumption, but the chemicals of Meth help to rot the teeth as well. It was interesting how the dentists were describing meth addicts teeth as soft, and the consistency of rotting fruit! Yuck!

 

I don't think so. if it contains some sort of calcium leeching agent, then bones would wear away too. I'm still convinced it has something to do with suppressed salivary response; combine that with the fact that, like Annie said, they don't even care to maintain hygene, and you're left with a mouth susceptible to rapid decay.

i've read this in an article last year, regarding the "new epidemic", and a physician described why teeth rot; it has to do with supressed salivary response, lack of acidity in the mouth to fight off bacteria.

 

i'm interested to see this.

I know certain acids, like HF, specifically leech calcium; but HF isn't used to make meth.
NaOH may be suspect.
NaOH residue is oily, but 'glass' is not. most of the NaOH is already reacted in the synthesis, and excess is filtered off (unless your cook's name is Jed, and half-asses the procedure); if there happens to be an oily NaOH residue, that could be problematic

though NaOH will actually dissolve fats before even touching bone. (the ONa ion is lipophilic, and will dissolve fatty tissue by saponification)

you also have to realize, for all the hazardous reagents and compounds used to make meth, when the product is complete, there will be none of those chemicals left over. solvents evaporate, reagents react to give product, and what you're left with is just methamphetamine hcl salt; and the body doesn't break meth down into its precursors, rather, it gets converted into derivatives of epinephrine.

 

I could not find the exact article but I dug up some others that describe "meth mouth".


http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,600140819,00.html

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meth/body/
"A common sign of meth abuse is extreme tooth decay, a condition that has become known in the media as "meth mouth." Users with "meth mouth" have blackened, stained, or rotting teeth, which often can't be saved, even among young or short-term users. The exact causes of "meth mouth" are not fully understood. Various reports have attributed the decay to the corrosive effects of the chemicals found in the drug, such as anhydrous ammonia (found in fertilizers), red phosphorus (found on matchboxes) and lithium (found in batteries), which when smoked or snorted might erode the tooth's protective enamel coating; however, it's more likely that this degree of tooth decay is brought on by a combination of side effects from a meth high.

When meth is ingested, it causes the user's blood vessels to shrink, limiting the steady blood supply that the mouth needs in order to stay healthy. With repeated shrinking, these vessels die and the oral tissues decay. Similarly, meth use leads to "dry mouth" (xerostomia), and without enough saliva to neutralize the mouth's harsh acids, those acids eat away at the tooth and gums, causing weak spots that are susceptible to cavities. The cavities are then exacerbated by behavior common in users on a meth high: a strong desire for sugary foods and drinks, compulsive tooth grinding, and the general neglect of regular brushing and flossing."

From these articles it likes like a combination of the drug itself, poor hygeine, bad diet, poor immune system, teeth grinding, and lack of saliva to protect the teeth.

Poor teeth. Poor people.

 

Aha! Found the original article from the NYtimes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/11/n...ce61d667005d47&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Let me know what you think polymer.

 

Ugh it's horrible to think about shittily manufactured drugs with reagants left over that eat away at your tissue... done my share of shitty drugs (not meth though) and have an assload of health issues right now, hope it's not related.

 

the former part of this is nonsense, for the reason I mentioned (those chemicals act as catalysts, or reagents (like ammonia), and are absent from the finished product).

the second is a more likely dilemma.