Ever wondered about the Illuminati?

Yes, I think m6m's ideas are as crazy as yours. You both like universal theories that explain everything. I don't.

My point was that saying "How can so and so be anti-semetic when there are jews against zionism" is bullshit.

There are no jewish groups that believe jews were behind the holocaust, so trying to associate yourself with some views of Hassidics and then suggesting that this proves blaming the holocaust on jews isn't anti-semetic is complete bullshit.

There is no connection. Renaming everything "zionist" or "some jews, not all" doesn't change a thing unless you are really, really gullible. Your theories do not differ in any meaningful way from the long and repetitive history of jew hating conspiracies which have taken hold in many countries and at many times in history.

 

When did I say there are groups of Jews who support other Jews being behind the Holocaust?

Find me this quote and we shall continue this discussion. Other than that, I still stand firm in my opinion that Zionist Jews are in league, if not part of the Illuminati. I myself like to combine them and call them "The Shadow Government". The people responsible for the political, economic, and religious dealings that go on in our world. Of course there is going to be someone on top of the "Grand Pyramid", and it just so happens to be people who spawn from Jewish descent.

I don't think latent homosexuality has anything to do with it either, rather, money and power. Because basically what your telling me is that after watching those movies, reading work upon work of several people, and doing my own research into history and religion, connecting pieces of the ancient puzzle, and agreeing with many conspiracy theories, that means im repressing homo-erotic impulses?

....yea

 

I need to learn how to express myself better, because that's NOT what I was trying to say!

Everyone raised in a patriarchal civilization will be anal-retentive, and express latent homosexual tendencies.

These homo-erotic tendencies come to the surface and are given expression in patriarchal property, patriarchal religion, and patriarchal politics.

Conspiracy theories, are NOT an attempt to understand the dynamics of our social interaction, but rather another desperate cover-story.

AND, those who subconsciously feel the most shame, will nearly always be the most desperate.

 

m6m I see what your saying, I want to know where you learned that though. Is it collegiate biology, and social evolution or something? Your saying that an anal-retentive, latent homo-sexuality deeply imbedded in the psyche, is somehow what causes sexism which is what partiarchal society is. I don't think thats whats keep societies Patriarchal, instead your confused man. It has nothing to do with sex though as much as violence and death. They are all connected, its a tribal mindset of survival of the fittest first through violence and death, then when the successor reigns its time for "the bitches". This is a factor among all males of every specious, its allways a fight first then sex and it is physically impossible for a woman to really put up a fight against a man, this is where it comes from not sex, which everyone should know nowadays women control sex, NOT VIOLENCE, which is what creates and destroys, sex is only a by product of this. As for the latent homo-sexuality, you mean that say in the garden of eden before our minds were warped (by foreign beings) or before we evolved at a high rate of speed through psychadelic mind evolution. There would be homosexuality? Thats another crock of shit dude, Homosexuality is unnatural, and came AFTER THE FALL. The knowledge of sex for pleasure, is all that homosexuality came from. No animals are homosexual as far as science and humanity knows. (they might have hidden bath houses in the woods but seriously cmon.) Sex is male dominated in the animal world, which is why it is latent in our psyche. As we morphed into beings of intelligence, and dropped out of touch with the earth, and our light body language. WE GAINED THESE PERVERTED THOUGHTS. As our pleasure centers evolved and we didn't have to worry about food, violence and death first, then we had time for sexual things. As for anal-rentiveness this came AFTER THE "fall" as well. People could shit and piss whenever they want wherever they wanted, whenever they had to. They probably didn't just drop a deuce inside the cave because it would stink the place up but if they had to shit they had no fucking problem dropping down and shitting in front of anyone. Theres no proof that humans lived like dogs, which are the only "anal retentive" animals by nature. With their complex hierarchy the Alpha male would be the one to tell them when and where they could and couldnt shit. With punishment of violence. This is where your theory is wrong. Theres no latent homo-sexuality, perhaps anal-retentiveness, to an extent, but this like many of Freudian theories are still only theories, and aren't proven, and are starting to be frowned upon by modern science.


As for pointbreak, you misunderstood NO JEWS BLAME JEWS FOR THE HOLOCAUST like you said. Hasidic Jews just say that "Zionism" is a false idea. However they do support the rebuilding of the third temple, as do all followers of Hebrew tradition. R33f3r and I were pointing this out to you. There are tons of other Jewish groups against zionism, because it is setting up an apartheid Imperialistic religious state. Which is everything western civ has been against for the past 500 years. When the Jewish people went on diaspora they saw that they couldnt have a centralized place of worship because it would be too easy to attack and destroy. So they built mini synagogues and temples, all remniscent of the original Temple of Solomon.
You still are missing the point, the Jewish people were not behind the holocaust. The Global Elite for lack of a better title, were the ones behind it. They destroyed Germany at the treaty of versailles, then told the world it was ok, and Germany disobeying the orders built up a war machine. They funded them, the same bankers who were compiled of non-jews and Jews, funded them and the Americans, and the European nations who now were mostly democratic with the last of the falling monarchies in WWI. They also during this time bought Israel slowly from the Palestinian nobles, while in the meantime pushed a Zionist agenda for all Jews beginning with British Jewry, to return to their homeland. This began with the Balfour Declaration, It was a tool of IMPERIALSIM. The British were in the midst of a crumbling empire, after loosing the colonies, and in the midst of losing India, THEY WANTED A STRONGHOLD ON THE SUEZ CANAL, thus if they owned Israel, and were highly respected in Egypt they were on both sides of this major seaport tunnel of high commerce. It was no different from South Africa, the dutch and british going in there 200 years earlier and setting up mines. Forcing the native population into shitholes barracaded off and calling them inferior. Which is what modern day Israelis think of Palestinians, THEY CAN'T BE EQUAL IN A JEWISH STATE, IT IS PART OF JEWISH LAW. NO GENTILE CAN BE EQUAL TO A JEW WITHIN THE SAME BOUNDARIES.
So do you understand so far? Israel=happy jewish people=high morale towards the British=the british control the suez canal=british get more wealthy to balance the huge loss of the American colonies. This however was before WWI, so back to the treaty of versailles, and the creation of the Nazi war machine. THE BRITSIH EMPIRE HAS NOW FALLEN, and they excercise almost now power over all the land they once did. So it fell into the hands of the global elite. WWI eliminated the last of dominant Monarchies, and a strong hatred blaming it all on the Germans. In the meantime, occult secret societies branching off the global shadow elite, were looking for theories to further show the dominance of the white man, which was now falling since many of white Imperialist nations by the 1920s-30s were slowly dwindling and seeing native rebellions.
They pushed the racist Aryan Idea to the German people, gave them a powerfull leader and a new world order. First aimed at retarded folk, gypsies, and other non-germans, as well as freemasons, and other opposing occult groups. Then they hit the mass The Jews, who like I said weren't the original target. Found this Idea Zionism and alot of them moving back to Ottomon controlled Palestine. They who were in league with the Ottomons, began this Jewish final solution, all backed behind the swastika a symbol to them of white dominance. Which was bullshit. As I said in my above posts Im not gonna describe what the symbols mean. Then adopted the Rothchild coat of arms, who were the MAJOR funders of both Zionism and The Third Reich, and were racially if not religiously Jewish. They brought out their coat of arms which was the Seal Of Solomon. The six pointed star was also used by the Nazis to round up the jews and they had to wear one. It became an opposing symbol meaning Aryan whites vs Jews. Why would they continue to use this as the symbol of their nation? Its not in the torah, its frowned upon by all the Patriarchs as a symbol of withcraft and demonology. It is NOT JEWISH. ISRAEL IS FULL OF JEWISH PEOPLE RUN BY A MOCK LEADER, the real leaders are NOT JEWISH. The six pointed star is a symbol of Jah Bul On, whos as real as the blood sacrifices of the innocent that are made to him.

 

Turned out long to sum it up, The British Empire fell, no longer capable of moving people to Israel, and governing it. It was in the hands of the people who bought it, The Rothschilds and other Jewish families, who owned land from the Ottomons. Then needed another catalyst to gain world support for the Jewish people, funded a racist Ideal against jews. Proving them worthy of a new homeland. Israel is not giving up, they want to control all of this land. Kick all muslims out, and move the dome of the rock to mecca. Thus making Israel equal to the vatican. Leaving the muslims uncentralized and then they will team up and destroy them, because Islam is closest to the religion of Abraham, it was the religion of noah and moses, this is why it was reformed twice, by Christianity, and Islam. WIth Islam remaining closest to the original monotheism. Uninfluenced by the occult rituals and banking dyansties that spawned so many years ago during the Babylonian Captivitiy.

If you cant comprehend this, or your too brainwashed to know that the Jewish religion is RACIST AND DOMINANT, just like the nazi ideal then youve lost. Your brainwashed. They call themselves the chosen people and say god wants them to suffer so no matter what each and every jew individual does they go to heaven, just for being a jew.

Tell me then how would Israel have found its way to the middle east if it wasnt for the holocaust. Pretend it didn't happen and tell me how a religious imperial state could just kick the natives out with heavy artillery and kevlar vests.

 

Nimrod,

I agree with you, and both Death and The Garden of Eden allegory are at the very foundation of my interpretations.

Yes, survival, as in genetic survival in the face of violence and death, is the strongest reproductive impulse.

Sex and Death, Survival and Reproduction, are inseparably intwined in this biology of life.

The Garden of Eden allegory describes the great change in the direct effect of Survival upon Reproduction (Death upon Sex).

This story is the first story we have that describes our fall from a fearless state of nature and innocence to this fear-driven fig-leafed civilized state.

From spirit-driven wholistic sexual lives, women were fear-driven to seek the security and authority of alpha-male patriarchy.

Yes,

Through the process of natural selection women control sex, as they define the kind of male behavior that will be reproductively successful.

Women are the canaries in the mineshaft, and when stalked by death-fear, Women are the first to seek the security and authority of an Alpha-Male father-figure.

It was Eve who was first seduced, but there's a woman within every man, and Adam was quickly seduced by fear as well.

Surrendering to effeminate death-fear is why man fell from The Garden of Eden's fearless state of nature.

Effeminate death-fear is why man surrenders his own unique spirit-path, and seeks, like a woman, the security and authority of alpha-male patriarchy.

A civilized man is an obedient man, always bending to authority.

Subconsciously, effeminate civilized man knows he is no longer a real man, no longer fearless in a state of nature.

Subconsciously, civilized man always suspects his male sexual identity, and is always desperate to hide these suspicions from others.

The need to hide homosexual tendencies from the competition is what makes them latent homosexual tendencies.

Homosexuality is a very natural response to an environment of fear that constantly grips the anal-spinchter in a continuous anal-constriction causing chronic anal-stimulation.

In such an environment, we revert back to a primitive canine-like primate behavior where the alpha-male is fear-driven to symbolically dry-hump every subordinate male.

Such is the symbolism behind the hyper-competition of patriarchy's politics, business, and religion.

Exactly!!

Seduced by fear we ate from The Tree of Knowledge, and fell from spirit-driven wholistic thoughts to a degernerate adiction to the simplistic fight-or-flight dualism of object subject separation.

Objective detatchment is no longer a useful tool, but an obsession that causes us to objectify unceasingly every relationship and every experience we will ever have in this civilized life.

Exactly yet again!!

Humanity in a state of nature undergo no harsh toilet-training, where they are forced to hold-it or be shamed by those they love.

Civilized man, however, is NOTORIOUS for our harsh toilet-training.

Civilized children are unconsciously stamped with a life-long association between anal-retentive behavior and social acceptance.

It's no coincidence that our grasping mine! mine! property grasping behavior begins during toilet-training's terrible two's and three's.

Freud is frowned upon, NOT because the psycho-pathologies he observed don't exist, but, because he failed to cure these psycho-pathologies.

Freud's famous talking cure (psycho-analysis) rarely cured any one for more than a few hours or a few days before they would revert back to old established pathological patterns.

And those he did cure were usually those whose pathologies were the result of a recent traumatic experience, and not deeply established from childhood.

Whereas today's psycho-active drug therapies in combination with behavioral modification is more successful as long as the patient continues the medications.

But even with today's neuro-cognitive behavioral approach, the patient will more often than not revert back to some if not all of the old established pathological patterns if the therapies stop.

 

If anyone is wondering, these videos were the original post. See how the Illuminati divert their attention! m6m, you work for them don't you!

....i kid i kid

 

Mewp!