yeah i think yer right. but the THEORY of what i gather of enlightenment and alignment... i dunno? think there is anything to it without a date per say? i dont know... i have conflicting views but i think without of an almost "intervention" like that.... yeah... not good....
We are supposed to be made aware of alien existence on Earth globally in 2010. I can't wait. They are gonna kick all of our asses!
The only chance we have at enlightenment is doing what we think is best now, and trying to raise kids that will have the same goal, and hopefully, be kinder, smarter, stronger, and wiser then we are. We'll never achieve utopia, but I think if we work hard, the world can be changed for the better. Anyway, I'll say something more about this later. I'mma go to bed. Night everbody.
Trish, Thanks for the thread. Love You. I believe: that world peace with integrity, true peace, is possible; and we can get close enough to it that there is radical good change in our world; there's plenty of room for good change. In the hash of thoughts, of opinions and expressions, keep clear; there is profound strength in a calm level mind even if our lives are cleary at stake; many have shown us this and it is true. An unqualified analogy: It is a strange thing, being someone who has enjoyed studying earthquakes, to have one's sense of expectation and one's sense of time experience change when waiting months and years for an event; monitoring seismometers in Southern California for years I came to appreciate nuance; the signature of rain falling, the noise of the wind, fourth of July sounds falling on a mountain, the unexplained; I further learned to be paced, to remain clear-minded, to be steady. Your question is beautiful, it is amazing to see that each one of us, individuals and groups, can have a major influence on humanity; and somehow it appears to me that there is a vast something, a something, even with the hardship and tragedy, that gives power and has control. And with knowledge and respect for the significance of our great responsiblity cause our ability to have influence, I believe, that we can, each of us, do great acts that bring good change. So you have me thinking; you've, I guess, awakened a sleeping part of me that says "hey man get creative about finding ways that we can influence the world in overtly good ways." Now I suppose that someone could try to derail this thought by saying "how do you know what is good"; and I suppose that I would say, "you know I'll include that question while I'm creating because that's a good question." Peace, David .
wow.... first you studyed hurricanes? that is amazing. truly getting in deep and studying weather like that, whether it be hurricanes, tornadoes, tsunamies, etc.- is truly amazing on more then one level. okay in my mind, yes there is room for good change. ive seen it in myself... ive seen it in other people. ive seen people become enlighted and mature about things (yes i keep bringing up maturity because bad stuff WILL happen and for me maturity.. espiecially emotional maturity [cause that really determines the maturity of our actions], seems to have a HUGE bit to do with true peace) so i guess... if you have seen this peace in some... yet in others you see people doing very "bad things"... there are still people that are abused and go out and rape someone and blame their uncle that molested them. if THOSE people could be "changed"- there is a lot they could bring to the picture.- i really do see it as impossible though unless a missing piece of the puzzle gets connected. however, my little- well im an optimistic... i used to call myself the "eternal optimist with pessimistic tendencies"- i can get really down about things but im a HUGE optimistic. i cant afford not to be but that is neither here nor there. my mind though sees things that truly AMAZE me... ive done some fucked up stuff myself and had people handle things VERY well and i think... if they can do that and if i can do that (about my forgiveness and acting maturely)- then why cant everyone?... cause if everyone would do that... okay there we go. to me that is the solution. anyways i guess that is all i have to say for now. but thanks again for your thoughtful response.
Trish, "i cant afford not to be" = to my mind an important realization "my mind though sees things that truly AMAZE me... ive done some fucked up stuff myself and had people handle things VERY well and i think... if they can do that and if i can do that (about my forgiveness and acting maturely)- then why cant everyone?... cause if everyone would do that... okay there we go. to me that is the solution." = big part of the goal but, referring to the intent of your original question, how is this furthered; how is this communicated; this a difficult part of the question; in a way we are doing "some of this" right now by setting example and by strengthening eachother and others who connect with this discourse. P/L, David
i think more exposure for some people to build tolerance... helping people realize about "walking in the shoes"- empathy building. which sounds kinda silly but i think its key... there are "public service announcements" but i think they really dont do much. over all though i think if there was a way for more people to understand that no matter how different- still more alike- and...well, im not sure- i really have no answer i dont really think anyone does. i do think if there was a way for people to want to "treat others as you want to be treated" (respect thing).... it would be key. no one is ever always gonna get along. i cant even get along with my husband sometimes. im not perfect and no one is but i think it is the way its dealt with.... i almost wonder if there is an answer. sometimes it seems that everyone has given up- but for no reason?
what about it dave? hah.... how could i afford to be negative? ive suffered from depression and been thru stuff... if i get all negative, i wont survive and therefore be able to procreate and ignitiate change.
I didn't give up - just suddenly realised I was at work and it was opening up time.Thats something that is - It'd be an ironic thing to lose my job over a thread.I'd have to go back on the streets - into the void I previously occupied...Back home now..Anyway - GOOD MORNING WORLD - IT'S 920.am here in UK AND LOOKING BRIGHT,WARM AND SUNNY after a long cold winter.........
You've drawn me back from silence... I was responding to: As I see it "we cannot afford to give up," it's just a natural state of being that may be hidden for some but we know this deep inside; this touches on very controversial questions; I think that there is a paradox here in that sometimes a form of giving up causes us to see that our pain comes from caring and not having given up which then becomes a learning experience; an evolution, a letting go of what is not necessary or healthy. .
and yeah i asked that as a question. a big part of it is letting to. has been one of the biggest lessons of my life.
people letting go of ego and their need to be right... respecting others and realizing its all about love, love of self and love of one another and knowing we all are the same inside, part of the divine and each have every right to our views, opinions, dreams, wants and desires.