Dont listen to the naysayers. Humanity is not about to end anytime soon. Yes.. there will be PAIN...But we have all felt pain and loss, and we are still here. So too for our race. Our future is going to be VERY long and full of MUCH wonder. Occam
Yeah there will always be predictions through humanity's existance. We haven't even reached a stoppage point of technology and science. I have a feeling we will have flying vehicles of sorts that don't function off gasoline and mannn much more.
Hav'nt reached a stoppage point? That like saying in the first step of a 4 km race.. 'i'm not there yet' Occam
the future is indeed bright, though tecnology is neither the brightest nor dimmest light in it. just something that we do because it is in our nature, what real nature we have, to be creative. we are in dim times at the moment. there may be even dimmer times immediately ahead, although even that does not absolutely have to be. but yes, once the oil runs out and even coal becomes costly to extract, when human population levels have returned to something more reasonable in relation to natural cycles and interspecial communities, then rivers, even interupted near their sources by modest dams and water wheels generating energy, once again run clean, the air once agian smells sweet, and every living awairness once again knows the gratification of exploring the wonders of natural diversity. clean tecnologies there will likely be, however relative that term remans, but clean enough certainly, to co exist with a healthy wild nature. noncombustive means of storing and generating energy. it is difficult to say how much less infrastructure we will rely upon or how much effort we will be willing to put into such infrastructre as comfort zone relies upon or how much insistence there will be upon that when the costs of it are understood at the gut level as an ordinary part of everyday living. i do see a bright future, but i don't see trying to impress each other as part of that brightness but rather as intrinsic to our current dimness. =^^= .../\...
The future's bright. It's full of light. The end's not even in sight. Shit, what's in my desk? It's a termite.
these things do cause bright flashes of light, along with big holes in the ground that may cause cancer to get to close to and may or may not be full of unhappy dead people, but while there is no guarantee they might not yet again be used with deadly intent, they are no more THE future, then total human extinction the day after tomarrow. the day after we stop burning anything for anything other then heating and cooking and somehow stop breeding like rabbits, without repressing natural sexuality and its gratification, WILL be the day that is not fallowed by the darkness of the soul with which we are now so everyday familiar. and i have absolutely no doubt that day will come, and it will come "before the passing of a full thousand years". most likely within centuries, and even possibly within decades, though less then a couple of decades looks like a bit of a long shot to hope for at this moment. there's certainly no reason it COULDN'T happen in what remains of my own lifetime. it will be a tremendous comfort to my last days if it does. more likely it will come in the children and grand children's generation of those who are now, like probably most of you reading this, younger enough then myself to be my own children or even grandchildren if i had any. my wife has a grandson and grand daughter who are just now embarking on adolescence. and it certainly could happen in their lifetime. i don't mean we'll ever stop finding ways of screwing something up, but we're not ever going to stop growing in understanding and learning new things either, and THAT, includes gaining the wisdom to prioritise not making the kind of mistakes we are collectively making now. =^^= .../\...
Youre right occam. At least its my firm belief that you are. There will be pain, and will be change. But no end. No ultimate end. Xx
Occam is happy.. Humans who believe in humanity are not as rare as it seems. Occam truely thinks that the humans of 3000 ad will look back on us and say. They placed such hope in technology,, and so little hope in themselves. For the first time.. true power over the enviroment was to be had. But little racial ethic or morality existed. We could have killed ourselves and a great swath of the biosphere. but did not. It was 'conscience' that saved them..and us, their children. [and just a bit more than a touch of self interest] Occam
Agreed Mybe we should start prophesizing ''great events" and advances. For example. Occam prophesizes that by 2030. Advances in human/machine interface will alow the replacement of most major 'structural' body parts. Loose a hand, get a better one. But look out. it will cause an workplace insurance frenzy. 'My job has health cover"..."YEH but mine has replacement cover". And Jerry springer stuff like " i stuck my hand in a mincer so i could get one that could break walnuts" or." I sued them cause my new hand malfunctioned and crushed my penis" Another greater prophesy " in 2050 Reality TV shows will be banned across most of the planet" Now that, would be social evolution.
think about it this way, the quality of life is much better now then say 50 years ago, what with the slavery and what not. Back in the day any one who was different was completely shunned, mentaly hadicapped people were kept in the attic, teachers beat kids, nazis were fucking pricks and all that shit. Nt saying the world we live i now is perfect but its much much better.
I pretty much typed up an essay and just deleted it because I figure that there is no reason for me to flame this thread whatsoever. You guys are right, there is much potential for a bright future. Progression is slow but steadily happening.
I agree with all of the above, and that life IS better, and that it will be getting better, but what alot of people havent noticed is that life is alot easier now, kids and teens can get money really easily now, its a piece of cake to pass through school now compared with past schooling,(not because we are getting smarter, but because the schools are getting slacker) not to mention teachers are getting less interested in what they are teaching. Ok im only 17, but ive talked to my mum and we've compared life styles - everything is so easy, cheap, and fast - 50 years ago every one was making their clothes, now a days every one buys what they want (apart from the hard core tye dye-ers ). I think this is bad, because it numbifies our minds and commercializes our souls, soon enough we will be forgetting about the reall issues that matter in this world and be trapped in a mushy, commercialised, materialistic dream Apologies if this post came across as negative, im just trying to make a poiint.
well you know some of the things we may find ourselves having to live without for a while can and will make the future brighter by people finaly realizing they actualy can! i keep hearing people say how terrible it would/will be if we had to live without cars. gee how awful. everybody having to walk a little bit. gee you don't suppose if everybody did there might just be nice places to stop and rest without spoild idiots feeling like they had to tear everything up all the time. and gee, what if we actualy found a way that most people could get by and more then get by without alarm clocks? immagine that. i can. lots of things people don't want to chainge until they have to, but for all our artifacts that hide nature bein where it all comes from, when nature, part if not mostly, as a reasault of our negligence of its well being, says it's time to chainge in no uncertain terms, there just ain't no not doin so. sure oil there's a bunch of, and coal an even bigger bunch of, but right now there's an awfull big bunch of us too. usin up what takes longer to replace then there's been an us. but i know folks got along before we started using oil and coal and thinking we had to, or driving cars or even printing money, and there were and are a whole lot more then just one or two ways of doing so either. i'm not condeming tecnology, i love some of it, like trains and computers and refrigerators, but some of the ways we've been using it, really stupidly wastefuly, and blinding ourselves to our own slavery instead of freeing everyone from it which as far as tecnology is concerned, we've had sufficient means to do that for a good 50 years at least. we've just fooled ourselves that other things, some really silly other things, were somehow more important. i think nature or something, running out of oil, who knows, but a combination of thigs, IS going to wake us up, and then we really will have it better. not in the ways we might have immagined for the past few decades, but in other ways that will turn out to be even much much better, happier and more gratifying. =^^= .../\...
