Masculinity

There are a lot of "masculine" traits that aren't negative: Independent, Rational, Intellectual, etc.

But I think "becoming a man" is a real event, which doesn't necessarily have to do with muscles. It involves standing up for what is right, seperating from the folks, defining yourselves, etc.

 

Sure they do i wasnt saying they dont, im just saying that no matter who you are it pays to be able to defend yourself, this is a trait stereo-typical to men but i think it is a useful one to.

 

How is Independent, Rational, Intellectual specifically masculine traits? and i agree becoming a man isnt about muscles, not at all, i think its about learning to take care of your responsibilities.

 

Ok... I sympathize for guys, having to deal with that.

But, it is quite a generalization to say something like "Yes. Girls can make out with each other... but guys get death threats if they do anything even kind of gay, but harmless."

Other GUYS might not have an issue with girls making out with girls and such....but straight GIRLS are just as judgemental of that sort of stuff, as straight guys are over homosexual guys....
Just like most girls do not care if a guy is gay, they will still continue to associate with him, and not have an issue... but the same girl might freak out if she finds out one of her GIRL friends is gay. And, the same rings true for guys and lesbian friends, and such.

It goes both ways. I think a lot of people often forget how much of a two way street it is, and how equal we really are.....

People just need to get over expectations and judgements.....etc. Be who you are, and let others be who they are, too. Why does it bother people if someone is different from them? I just don't get it....

 

In prison its straight men raping other straight men usually. It happens to like 1 out of every 10. It happens because there are no women in prison.

 

They aren't exclusively Masculine traits, but they are traditionaly Masculine traits.

Look at the man/woman divide, historically:

Public/Private (The man is a man in the world, the woman is a woman at home)
Rational/Emotional
Intellectual/Biological
Independence/Dependence

Even noted feminists agree on this. Not that anybody thinks it is true or correct.

 

i would say that yes masculine images in the media have had an effect on my self esteem. i.e. made me feel less of a man.

 

I don’t think the problem is people acting to masculine the problem is nobody knows what masculinity is or they have bad examples to follow. Positive masculinity needs to be talked about. to be a good person men should not be told to act more like women they should be told act more like a good man. Don’t get me wrong there is nothing wrong with a man doing things like painting your nails. When I was told be a man it meant grow up take responsibility there is nothing wrong with that. A guy that goes to gym every day and does not provide for his kids is not a man a guy who puts on ladies underwear and provides for there family is