~~~ The Beatles ~~~

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  1. TARABELLE

    TARABELLE on the road less traveled

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    So they played Dallas, September 18th, '64. I had to have been 8 at the time, FOURTH grade (I started first grade when I was 5 - born in November), so my memory's all fucked up on this one. Oh, well, too much smot poking. [​IMG]
     
  2. shaggie

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    Yeah, not to mention the Reggae thing with Marley and others. Soul music in the late 60s. Jazz fusion and brass bands like Blood, Sweat, and Tears and Chicago. What a melting pot the 60s were for pop music.

    Can we look back on the last 20 years in pop music and say the same thing? :)

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  3. oldhippieman

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    And yet we don't hear anything today sounding like the Beatles today except Pop music.
     
  4. Pinball Wizard

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    Yes, Fall out boy's song's do sound a lot like Revolution number 9, and their lyrics are much more involved than Strawberry Fields Forever. Almost everyone was influenced by the beatles in some way. Oh and I love the hendrix comments. He liked Sgt. Peppers lonley hearts band so much that he opened his show with it two days after its release. But Im sure he wasnt influenced at all by it. No matter what you say the beatles changed the face of music.
    Randy Rhoads even claimed that the beatles influenced him the most out of any other band.
    Peace
     
  5. oldhippieman

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    randy rhoads didn't sound anywhere near like the beatles
     
  6. Pablo_Escobar

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    The Beatles are the best. Period.
     
  7. Pinball Wizard

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    Yes, but he said they influenced him the most. Sorry if I came out as rude in my first post I should have respected your musical opinions.
     
  8. shaggie

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    I give credit to Les Paul and Mary Ford for developing many of the techniques that rockers in the 60s used. Particularly the development of the solid body guitar by Les and the multi-track recording of vocals by Mary Ford to create that panharmonic effect that was used so much by groups like the Beatles and Carpenters. Their music was more along the lines of country western, but they were doing all of this back in the 50s, long before Hendrix, the Beatles and Elvis. If I remember correctly, Les Paul was also the innovator of the flanging effect, used later by Hendrix and others.

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  9. peeroette

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    Hi oldhippieman,

    I have been downloading music with Kazza the past few weeks. Man, it took me a while to find anything by Blue Cheer. I finally found one song, Summertime Blues. I also got 60's songs by Cream, Jimi Hendrix, The Who, The Band, and other 60's groups.

    I guess I am going through a middle life crisis. I have always been a flower child but that child has been covered up by years of adversity. I can't get away from this longing lately to go back there. That longing brought me to this forum to interact with others like me. There will never be music as great as our generation of music. Never.

    I am 54 and feel fortunate to have been in my teens when these musicians made their magic.
     
  10. trippedelia

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    im listening to strawberry fields forever right now:D
    but beatles are definately nowhere NEAR my favourite band, and i only like the latter less poppy stuff, and no they werent really a hippie band at all, they were a mainstream pop music band.
     
  11. SpaceTrippin

    SpaceTrippin Banned

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    I saw them on Ed Sullivan when I was 8, well in 2 months I would have been 8 :) .
    I remember my parents couldn't understand what the fuss was all about,
    even after we all watching it.
    But I remember it and it was a cool feeling, right in the middle of Beatlemania.

    It was the fourth time they appeared on the Sullivan show on Sep 1965 when I
    saw them.

    I still enjoy listening to their albums but mostly Sgt. Peppers, White Album,
    Rubber Soul. Actually I still listen to them all
     
  12. fylthevoyd

    fylthevoyd Super Moderator

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    the closest I ever came to seeing them was the televised Shea Stadium concert

    the Beatles were much more than just their music.....they gave something to reach for when all hell was breaking loose in a disillusioned society....The Beatles came on the scene just when the youth movement was starting to pick up and getting ready to take off....or that is my perception of the situation
     
  13. SpaceTrippin

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    Thats a good deduction. I never thought of that. I think you have something there.
    The Beatles where at the right place at the right time!
     
  14. robspace2

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    I have seen Hendrix-The Doors -Stones in the 60s and just about any other group at that time-EXCEPT- The Beatles-Alot of people did not get a chnce to see them- their last show was outdoor concert at Candelstick Park Baseball field in San Francisco in 66'-Lennon never played live much after the split-Paul has and still is-He is an amazing song writer-My favorite album was St. Pepper-It was so wild-un Beatle like -Here are some dates w/ attendence records-some places there were only 7000 people watching them!

















    WASHINGTON D.C. - WA. COLISEUM Feb 11, 1964 1 8,092

    NEW YORK - CARNEGIE HALL Feb 12, 1964 2 2,954 (ea.)

    MIAMI - DEAUVILLE HOTEL MAU MAU CLUB Feb 16, 1964 2 2,600 (ea., rehearsal and show. 3,500 tickets reportedly issued for main show)

    1964 Tour
    City & Venue Date Shows Attendance
    SAN FRANCISCO - COW PALACE Aug 19, 1964 1 17,130

    LAS VEGAS - CONVENTION CENTER Aug 20, 1964 2 16,816 (total)
    SEATTLE - SEATTLE CENTER COLISEUM Aug 21, 1964 1 14,382
    VANCOUVER - EMPIRE STADIUM Aug 22, 1964 1 20,621
    HOLLYWOOD - HOLLYWOOD BOWL Aug 23, 1964 1 17,256
    DENVER - RED ROCKS AMPHITHEATRE Aug 26, 1964 1 7,000
    CINCINNATI - CINCINNATI GARDENS Aug 27, 1964 1 14,000

    NY - FOREST HILLS TENNIS STADIUM Aug 28, 1964 1 16,000

    NY - FOREST HILLS TENNIS STADIUM Aug 29, 1964 1 16,000

    N. JERSEY - ATLANTIC CITY CONV. HALL Aug 30, 1964 1 18,000
    PHILADELPHIA - CONVENTION HALL Sep 02, 1964 1 13,000

    INDIANAPOLIS - INDIANA STATE FAIR Sep 03, 1964 2 12,413
    16,924
    MILWAUKEE - MILWAUKEE ARENA Sep 04, 1964 1 11,500

    CHICAGO - INTERNATIONAL AMPHITHEATER Sep 05, 1964 1 13,000

    DETROIT - OLYMPIA STADIUM Sep 06, 1964 2 30,000 (total)

    TORONTO - MAPLE LEAF GARDENS Sep 07, 1964 2 35,522 (total)

    MONTREAL - FORUM Sep 08, 1964 2 9,500
    11,500

    JACKSONVILLE - GATORBOWL Sep 11, 1964 1 32,000
    BOSTON - BOSTON GARDEN Sep 12, 1964 1 13,909

    BALTIMORE - CIVIC CENTER Sep 13, 1964 2 28,000 (total)
    PITTSBURGH - CIVIC ARENA Sep 14, 1964 1 12,603
    CLEVELAND - PUBLIC AUDITORIUM Sep 15, 1964 1 11,000

    NEW ORLEANS - CITY PARK STADIUM Sep 16, 1964 1 12,000
    KANSAS CITY - MUNICIPAL STADIUM Sep 17, 1964 1 20,214
    DALLAS - DALLAS MEM. AUDITORIUM Sep 18, 1964 1 10,500
    NEW YORK - PARAMOUNT THEATER Sep 20, 1964 1 3,682
    1965 Tour
    City & Venue Date Shows Attendance
    NEW YORK - ED SULLIVAN THEATER Aug 14, 1965 2 728 (ea., rehearsal and show)
    NEW YORK - SHEA STADIUM Aug 15, 1965 1 55,600
    TORONTO - MAPLE LEAF GARDENS Aug 17, 1965 2 18,000 (ea.)
    ATLANTA - ATLANTA STADIUM Aug 18, 1965 1 30,000
    HOUSTON - SAM HOUSTON COLISEUM Aug 19, 1965 2 12,000 (ea.)
    CHICAGO - WHITE SOX PARK Aug 20, 1965 2 25,000
    37,000
    BLOOMINGTON - METROPOLITAN STADIUM Aug 21, 1965 1 25,000

    PORTLAND - MEMORIAL COLISEUM Aug 22, 1965 2 20,000 (total)
    SAN DIEGO - BALBOA STADIUM Aug 28, 1965 1 17,000
    HOLLYWOOD - HOLLYWOOD BOWL Aug 29, 1965 1 17,256
    HOLLYWOOD - HOLLYWOOD BOWL Aug 30, 1965 1 17,256
    SAN FRANCISCO - COW PALACE Aug 31, 1965 2 18,000
    1966 Tour
    City & Venue Date Shows Attendance
    CHICAGO - INTERNAT. AMPHITHEATER Aug 12, 1966 2 13,000 (ea.)
    DETROIT - OLYMPIA STADIUM Aug 13, 1966 2 14,000
    16,800

    CLEVELAND - CLEVELAND STADIUM Aug 14, 1966 1 20,000
    WASHINGTON D.C.- D.C. STADIUM Aug 15, 1966 1 32,164

    PHILADELPHIA - J.F.K. STADIUM Aug 16, 1966 1 21,000

    TORONTO - MAPLE LEAF GARDENS Aug 17, 1966 2 15,000
    17,000
    BOSTON - SUFFOLK DOWNS Aug 18, 1966 1 25,000
    MEMPHIS - MID-SOUTH COLISEUM Aug 19, 1966 2 10,000
    12,500
    CINCINNATI - CROSLEY FIELD Aug 21, 1966 1 12,000
    ST. LOUIS - BUSCH MEMORIAL STADIUM Aug 21, 1966 1 23,000
    NY - SHEA STADIUM Aug 23, 1966 1 44,600
    SEATTLE - SEATTLE CENTER COLISEUM Aug 25, 1966 2 8,200
    14,382
    LOS ANGELES - DODGER STADIUM Aug 28, 1966 1 45,000
    SAN FRANCISCO - CANDLESTICK PARK
    (last live show) Aug 29, 1966 1 25,000




    Collecting U.S. Beatles concert tickets


    This fascinating area of collecting was surprisingly ignored by all but a handful of collectors from the 1960s to the mid 1990s. But during the past few years ticket collecting has taken off and is now getting more popular. Tickets are continuing their climb based on scarcity and high demand, especially true for near-mint condition unused examples of certain shows.

    It is typically more difficult to find full tickets from any of their 1964 or 1965 shows as most of those concerts were completely sold out. In 1966, amid controversy, they played huge sports arenas for the most part and although most were successful, not all sold out, leaving full tickets for Beatle collectors to enjoy decades later in their unused glory. The Beatles sold more than one million tickets for their live North American appearances.

    Most tickets are priced and evaluated separately, and as with all collectibles, condition is very important in this regard. Folds, stains, tears and any writing reduces the value and usually lowers the desirability of any ticket. Stubs are worth a fraction of the value of the same full ticket, but even that varies depending on the remaining portion and what information or pictures can be seen. In some cases where very few known examples exist, condition of course becomes much less important.

    Tickets, unlike massed produced commercial products, were only available regionally and in most cases are somewhat difficult to find. The printing of the tickets themselves was a fairly complex process that sometimes required many passes through various printing presses. Ticket manufacturers like Globe used to require at least 2 weeks to complete a print job. Tickets were usually printed in sheets of twelve, with the perforations already in place for each ticket. Usually the text information on the ticket would be printed first (i.e. performer name, venue, price, etc.) If the text contained more than one color, the tickets would be run through a separate time for each color. Often, the tickets would again be run separately through a "Hiedelburg"-type press for the seat numbers, row numbers and section numbers to be printed. These types of tickets can be noted for the imprint that the seat numbers leave in the ticket. If the promoter were presenting more than one show by the Beatles, another batch of tickets would be printed in the same way but with a different date and/or time, and some form of distinct marking to assist in recognizing it as a ticket for the other performance.

    There are no known complete sets in collectors' hands, even if you count stubs! With over 500 different ticket variations issued in North America, even the most advanced collectors have barely put a dent into having them all. Some have focused on collecting just one ticket or stub per show, cutting the required variations to 73. Others concentrate on certain years or venues.
















    Early 1964 1964 Tour 1965 Tour 1966 Tour
    Collecting Concert Programs Closed Circuit Epstein '66 To


    "And Now, Here They Are... THE BEATLES"


    By Kevin Curran, Mitch McGeary and Mike White


    Forewords by Bob Eubanks and Sid Bernstein








    The Beatles North American Concert Tickets


    Early 1964
    City & Venue Date Shows Attendance
    NEW YORK - ED SULLIVAN THEATER Feb 09, 1964 2 728 (ea., live audience afternoon taping for 2/23 broadcast plus live evening show)

    WASHINGTON D.C. - WA. COLISEUM Feb 11, 1964 1 8,092

    NEW YORK - CARNEGIE HALL Feb 12, 1964 2 2,954 (ea.)

    MIAMI - DEAUVILLE HOTEL MAU MAU CLUB Feb 16, 1964 2 2,600 (ea., rehearsal and show. 3,500 tickets reportedly issued for main show)

    1964 Tour
    City & Venue Date Shows Attendance
    SAN FRANCISCO - COW PALACE Aug 19, 1964 1 17,130

    LAS VEGAS - CONVENTION CENTER Aug 20, 1964 2 16,816 (total)
    SEATTLE - SEATTLE CENTER COLISEUM Aug 21, 1964 1 14,382
    VANCOUVER - EMPIRE STADIUM Aug 22, 1964 1 20,621
    HOLLYWOOD - HOLLYWOOD BOWL Aug 23, 1964 1 17,256
    DENVER - RED ROCKS AMPHITHEATRE Aug 26, 1964 1 7,000
    CINCINNATI - CINCINNATI GARDENS Aug 27, 1964 1 14,000

    NY - FOREST HILLS TENNIS STADIUM Aug 28, 1964 1 16,000

    NY - FOREST HILLS TENNIS STADIUM Aug 29, 1964 1 16,000

    N. JERSEY - ATLANTIC CITY CONV. HALL Aug 30, 1964 1 18,000
    PHILADELPHIA - CONVENTION HALL Sep 02, 1964 1 13,000

    INDIANAPOLIS - INDIANA STATE FAIR Sep 03, 1964 2 12,413
    16,924
    MILWAUKEE - MILWAUKEE ARENA Sep 04, 1964 1 11,500

    CHICAGO - INTERNATIONAL AMPHITHEATER Sep 05, 1964 1 13,000

    DETROIT - OLYMPIA STADIUM Sep 06, 1964 2 30,000 (total)

    TORONTO - MAPLE LEAF GARDENS Sep 07, 1964 2 35,522 (total)

    MONTREAL - FORUM Sep 08, 1964 2 9,500
    11,500

    JACKSONVILLE - GATORBOWL Sep 11, 1964 1 32,000
    BOSTON - BOSTON GARDEN Sep 12, 1964 1 13,909

    BALTIMORE - CIVIC CENTER Sep 13, 1964 2 28,000 (total)
    PITTSBURGH - CIVIC ARENA Sep 14, 1964 1 12,603
    CLEVELAND - PUBLIC AUDITORIUM Sep 15, 1964 1 11,000

    NEW ORLEANS - CITY PARK STADIUM Sep 16, 1964 1 12,000
    KANSAS CITY - MUNICIPAL STADIUM Sep 17, 1964 1 20,214
    DALLAS - DALLAS MEM. AUDITORIUM Sep 18, 1964 1 10,500
    NEW YORK - PARAMOUNT THEATER Sep 20, 1964 1 3,682
    1965 Tour
    City & Venue Date Shows Attendance
    NEW YORK - ED SULLIVAN THEATER Aug 14, 1965 2 728 (ea., rehearsal and show)
    NEW YORK - SHEA STADIUM Aug 15, 1965 1 55,600
    TORONTO - MAPLE LEAF GARDENS Aug 17, 1965 2 18,000 (ea.)
    ATLANTA - ATLANTA STADIUM Aug 18, 1965 1 30,000
    HOUSTON - SAM HOUSTON COLISEUM Aug 19, 1965 2 12,000 (ea.)
    CHICAGO - WHITE SOX PARK Aug 20, 1965 2 25,000
    37,000
    BLOOMINGTON - METROPOLITAN STADIUM Aug 21, 1965 1 25,000

    PORTLAND - MEMORIAL COLISEUM Aug 22, 1965 2 20,000 (total)
    SAN DIEGO - BALBOA STADIUM Aug 28, 1965 1 17,000
    HOLLYWOOD - HOLLYWOOD BOWL Aug 29, 1965 1 17,256
    HOLLYWOOD - HOLLYWOOD BOWL Aug 30, 1965 1 17,256
    SAN FRANCISCO - COW PALACE Aug 31, 1965 2 18,000
    1966 Tour
    City & Venue Date Shows Attendance
    CHICAGO - INTERNAT. AMPHITHEATER Aug 12, 1966 2 13,000 (ea.)
    DETROIT - OLYMPIA STADIUM Aug 13, 1966 2 14,000
    16,800

    CLEVELAND - CLEVELAND STADIUM Aug 14, 1966 1 20,000
    WASHINGTON D.C.- D.C. STADIUM Aug 15, 1966 1 32,164

    PHILADELPHIA - J.F.K. STADIUM Aug 16, 1966 1 21,000

    TORONTO - MAPLE LEAF GARDENS Aug 17, 1966 2 15,000
    17,000
    BOSTON - SUFFOLK DOWNS Aug 18, 1966 1 25,000
    MEMPHIS - MID-SOUTH COLISEUM Aug 19, 1966 2 10,000
    12,500
    CINCINNATI - CROSLEY FIELD Aug 21, 1966 1 12,000
    ST. LOUIS - BUSCH MEMORIAL STADIUM Aug 21, 1966 1 23,000
    NY - SHEA STADIUM Aug 23, 1966 1 44,600
    SEATTLE - SEATTLE CENTER COLISEUM Aug 25, 1966 2 8,200
    14,382
    LOS ANGELES - DODGER STADIUM Aug 28, 1966 1 45,000
    SAN FRANCISCO - CANDLESTICK PARK
    (last live show) Aug 29, 1966 1 25,000




    Collecting U.S. Beatles concert tickets


    This fascinating area of collecting was surprisingly ignored by all but a handful of collectors from the 1960s to the mid 1990s. But during the past few years ticket collecting has taken off and is now getting more popular. Tickets are continuing their climb based on scarcity and high demand, especially true for near-mint condition unused examples of certain shows.

    It is typically more difficult to find full tickets from any of their 1964 or 1965 shows as most of those concerts were completely sold out. In 1966, amid controversy, they played huge sports arenas for the most part and although most were successful, not all sold out, leaving full tickets for Beatle collectors to enjoy decades later in their unused glory. The Beatles sold more than one million tickets for their live North American appearances.











    The Beatles North American Concert Tickets


    Early 1964
    City & Venue Date Shows Attendance
    NEW YORK - ED SULLIVAN THEATER Feb 09, 1964 2 728 (ea., live audience afternoon taping for 2/23 broadcast plus live evening show)

    WASHINGTON D.C. - WA. COLISEUM Feb 11, 1964 1 8,092

    NEW YORK - CARNEGIE HALL Feb 12, 1964 2 2,954 (ea.)

    MIAMI - DEAUVILLE HOTEL MAU MAU CLUB Feb 16, 1964 2 2,600 (ea., rehearsal and show. 3,500 tickets reportedly issued for main show)

    1964 Tour
    City & Venue Date Shows Attendance
    SAN FRANCISCO - COW PALACE Aug 19, 1964 1 17,130

    LAS VEGAS - CONVENTION CENTER Aug 20, 1964 2 16,816 (total)
    SEATTLE - SEATTLE CENTER COLISEUM Aug 21, 1964 1 14,382
    VANCOUVER - EMPIRE STADIUM Aug 22, 1964 1 20,621
    HOLLYWOOD - HOLLYWOOD BOWL Aug 23, 1964 1 17,256
    DENVER - RED ROCKS AMPHITHEATRE Aug 26, 1964 1 7,000
    CINCINNATI - CINCINNATI GARDENS Aug 27, 1964 1 14,000

    NY - FOREST HILLS TENNIS STADIUM Aug 28, 1964 1 16,000

    NY - FOREST HILLS TENNIS STADIUM Aug 29, 1964 1 16,000

    N. JERSEY - ATLANTIC CITY CONV. HALL Aug 30, 1964 1 18,000
    PHILADELPHIA - CONVENTION HALL Sep 02, 1964 1 13,000

    INDIANAPOLIS - INDIANA STATE FAIR Sep 03, 1964 2 12,413
    16,924
    MILWAUKEE - MILWAUKEE ARENA Sep 04, 1964 1 11,500

    CHICAGO - INTERNATIONAL AMPHITHEATER Sep 05, 1964 1 13,000

    DETROIT - OLYMPIA STADIUM Sep 06, 1964 2 30,000 (total)

    TORONTO - MAPLE LEAF GARDENS Sep 07, 1964 2 35,522 (total)

    MONTREAL - FORUM Sep 08, 1964 2 9,500
    11,500

    JACKSONVILLE - GATORBOWL Sep 11, 1964 1 32,000
    BOSTON - BOSTON GARDEN Sep 12, 1964 1 13,909

    BALTIMORE - CIVIC CENTER Sep 13, 1964 2 28,000 (total)
    PITTSBURGH - CIVIC ARENA Sep 14, 1964 1 12,603
    CLEVELAND - PUBLIC AUDITORIUM Sep 15, 1964 1 11,000

    NEW ORLEANS - CITY PARK STADIUM Sep 16, 1964 1 12,000
    KANSAS CITY - MUNICIPAL STADIUM Sep 17, 1964 1 20,214
    DALLAS - DALLAS MEM. AUDITORIUM Sep 18, 1964 1 10,500
    NEW YORK - PARAMOUNT THEATER Sep 20, 1964 1 3,682
    1965 Tour
    City & Venue Date Shows Attendance
    NEW YORK - ED SULLIVAN THEATER Aug 14, 1965 2 728 (ea., rehearsal and show)
    NEW YORK - SHEA STADIUM Aug 15, 1965 1 55,600
    TORONTO - MAPLE LEAF GARDENS Aug 17, 1965 2 18,000 (ea.)
    ATLANTA - ATLANTA STADIUM Aug 18, 1965 1 30,000
    HOUSTON - SAM HOUSTON COLISEUM Aug 19, 1965 2 12,000 (ea.)
    CHICAGO - WHITE SOX PARK Aug 20, 1965 2 25,000
    37,000
    BLOOMINGTON - METROPOLITAN STADIUM Aug 21, 1965 1 25,000

    PORTLAND - MEMORIAL COLISEUM Aug 22, 1965 2 20,000 (total)
    SAN DIEGO - BALBOA STADIUM Aug 28, 1965 1 17,000
    HOLLYWOOD - HOLLYWOOD BOWL Aug 29, 1965 1 17,256
    HOLLYWOOD - HOLLYWOOD BOWL Aug 30, 1965 1 17,256
    SAN FRANCISCO - COW PALACE Aug 31, 1965 2 18,000
    1966 Tour
    City & Venue Date Shows Attendance
    CHICAGO - INTERNAT. AMPHITHEATER Aug 12, 1966 2 13,000 (ea.)
    DETROIT - OLYMPIA STADIUM Aug 13, 1966 2 14,000
    16,800

    CLEVELAND - CLEVELAND STADIUM Aug 14, 1966 1 20,000
    WASHINGTON D.C.- D.C. STADIUM Aug 15, 1966 1 32,164

    PHILADELPHIA - J.F.K. STADIUM Aug 16, 1966 1 21,000

    TORONTO - MAPLE LEAF GARDENS Aug 17, 1966 2 15,000
    17,000
    BOSTON - SUFFOLK DOWNS Aug 18, 1966 1 25,000
    MEMPHIS - MID-SOUTH COLISEUM Aug 19, 1966 2 10,000
    12,500
    CINCINNATI - CROSLEY FIELD Aug 21, 1966 1 12,000
    ST. LOUIS - BUSCH MEMORIAL STADIUM Aug 21, 1966 1 23,000
    NY - SHEA STADIUM Aug 23, 1966 1 44,600
    SEATTLE - SEATTLE CENTER COLISEUM Aug 25, 1966 2 8,200
    14,382
    LOS ANGELES - DODGER STADIUM Aug 28, 1966 1 45,000
    SAN FRANCISCO - CANDLESTICK PARK
    (last live show) Aug 29, 1966 1 25,000




    Collecting U.S. Beatles concert tickets


    This fascinating area of collecting was surprisingly ignored by all but a handful of collectors from the 1960s to the mid 1990s. But during the past few years ticket collecting has taken off and is now getting more popular. Tickets are continuing their climb based on scarcity and high demand, especially true for near-mint condition unused examples of certain shows.

    It is typically more difficult to find full tickets from any of their 1964 or 1965 shows as most of those concerts were completely sold out. In 1966, amid controversy, they played huge sports arenas for the most part and although most were successful, not all sold out, leaving full tickets for Beatle collectors to enjoy decades later in their unused glory. The Beatles sold more than one million tickets for their live North American appearances.

    Most tickets are priced and evaluated separately, and as with all collectibles, condition is very important in this regard. Folds, stains, tears and any writing reduces the value and usually lowers the desirability of any ticket. Stubs are worth a fraction of the value of the same full ticket, but even that varies depending on the remaining portion and what information or pictures can be seen. In some cases where very few known examples exist, condition of course becomes much less important.

    Tickets, unlike massed produced commercial products, were only available regionally and in most cases are somewhat difficult to find. The printing of the tickets themselves was a fairly complex process that sometimes required many passes through various printing presses. Ticket manufacturers like Globe used to require at least 2 weeks to complete a print job. Tickets were usually printed in sheets of twelve, with the perforations already in place for each ticket. Usually the text information on the ticket would be printed first (i.e. performer name, venue, price, etc.) If the text contained more than one color, the tickets would be run through a separate time for each color. Often, the tickets would again be run separately through a "Hiedelburg"-type press for the seat numbers, row numbers and section numbers to be printed. These types of tickets can be noted for the imprint that the seat numbers leave in the ticket. If the promoter were presenting more than one show by the Beatles, another batch of tickets would be printed in the same way but with a different date and/or time, and some form of distinct marking to assist in recognizing it as a ticket for the other performance.

    There are no known complete sets in collectors' hands, even if you count stubs! With over 500 different ticket variations issued in North America, even the most advanced collectors have barely put a dent into having them all. Some have focused on collecting just one ticket or stub per show, cutting the required variations to 73. Others concentrate on certain years or venues.

    Ticket collecting and demand will no doubt continue to grow, especially while it is still possible to find some nice mint unused tickets at reasonable prices. There are still several cities in which no known full unused tickets have turned up, although the list is shrinking as several previously undiscovered tickets turned up in the late 1990s. Some recent finds of rare unused tickets include an afternoon Detroit '64, a Montreal evening show, the 1965 Ed Sullivan show, 1964 Pittsburgh, a perfect Cow Palace 1965 evening, Atlanta 1965 and both 1965 Hollywood Bowl shows.

    Some of the most common full tickets are all from 1966 and include Suffolk Downs, Shea Stadium and Candlestick Park. Promoters of these events had held onto unsold tickets and in the 1990s offered them for sale. The approximate quantitys, consisting of many different seating sections, were 6,000 for Suffolk Downs, 2,000+ for Shea Stadium and several hundred for Candlestick Park.
     
  15. fylthevoyd

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    hey rob thanx for the walk down memory lane with your post...and the added info about the collectability of the tickets...and such....it was a great time...just a shame I never actually got to see them live....aside from their telecast performances...thanx again
     
  16. Flight From Ashiya

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    Thankyou for that.
    It makes me realise that 'The Beatles' must have given up touring in late 1966 out of:sheer exhaustion!!.

    Equally a very considerable number of people,in their 50s ,60s & 70s now must have caught 'The Beatles' performing live at one of the above concerts.It must be a rewarding feeling to know that you witnessed a piece of history!.
     
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    Before the Beatles came along the radio stations were playing mainly pop stuff-Then ;when I was around 14 -We watched them touch down in New York for the first time-on tv. They were completly different looking and sounding than anybody-The long hair was a first!--Nobody had ever had hair that long in a band --There was a complete mass hysteria all over the country wherever they went-The girls were passing out at shows and they were mobbed by girls everywhere they played--Alot of American guys had to compete with that!-tough ta do-haha--they did have a loud great sound and were exciting to watch-yes-they quit too soon-I am really amazed at how well Paul McCartney has held up and stays real good --nice to see that some of our generations rockers survived-as alot did not--live and learn--only the strong survive-
     
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    robspace, you have to remember that when the Beatles were doing pop songs like "i want to hold your hand" serious bands like the Animals and the Rolling stones were making music that would shape music in the coming decades. As i have stated before, the Beatles have not left such a legacy.
     
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    I am going to have to disagree with ya on thay one-The Stones started out playing songs done by American blues players-They were good at it' and they did bring alot of exposure to some unknown artists-They made a fortune playing Bo Diddly-Robert Johnson-Chuck Berry-Buddy Holley-too bad the origonal artists never got a bigger piece of the pie-The stones really did get their band off the ground by playing other peoples stuff-The Beatles did some of that but not nearly as much as the Stones-The Beatles were the first of the British groups to make it big-The Stones were right there behind them-they just seemed like a rough version of The Beatles and most people saw them as a copy band-Mc Cartney and Lennon are considered to be the best songwriting team in history-They definately sold alot more albums then the Stones-Don't get me wrong-I have always been a Stones fan as I prefer rock over pop-I believe the Beatles started hitting their stride with the album Revolver-great rock and roll--Do ya know what the most recorded song in history is?-I thought it would be Santas comin to town or jingel bells-no-it's Yesterday-yea-I would say they have left their mark in history-their music has been done by everyone-not so with the Stones-It was a good competition between the two for awhile-
     
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    The Beatles never fully recovered after Epsteins death, which is a shame!
    Who knows how many years more we may have had of The Beatles if he had lived!
     

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