Gun Control

Sorry, but people who use Michael Moore as their primary source of information are idiots.

 

I'm all fer gun ownership, but I really think that there should be a limit to how many ya can own. I can't think of one person who needs an arsenal in their basement.

 

I'm against total bans, as they aren't going to work. How is anyone going to KNOW you have a gun in your house? Is the government going to send guys out to tear through people's homes, looking for one of those things?


At the same time, we need to do SOMETHING. You don't need to watch Michael Moore to realise America has some violence issues. I think the government should figure out how to lessen these problems, and figure out why our homicide rates are among the highest of our industrialised buddies.

 

what are you talking about? Haven't you ever seen The Transporter? Jason Stathom had to kick some ass to save a bunch of people from becoming slaves and he never woulda been able to do it without all those guns in his boat. Are you saying your pro-human slavery?!@ :X

 

Keep the guns! So the sane can kick the Gov's ass when things start turning ugly in this country.

 

Has anyone ever seen the Conan clip where Hunter THompson was on? He took Conan to a shooting range, and the safety instructor made HST move his glass of whiskey away from the gun.

 

AHAHAHA!! Fuckin tight!

 

Im never living in America,everyone are gun lunitics!

There are over 11,000 gun crimes every year in America,but in the Uk there are 45,thats why i am for it.

 

I see that you are happy shooting people in America so i will just leave you to your killing each other.

HAPPY KILLING!

 

We'll as polititcally relevant as that was, you should think about avoiding the debate 'till your old enough to vote/own a gun.

45 hahaha, way to make up numbers, there are 8,000 murders with guns in the US vs 65 in the UK, however you have over 1,500 murders a year, and we have 10,300. that means that while there are about three times as many murders per capita here, most of your murders come from people beating each other to death with clubs. At least we kill each other like civilized people.

The UK also has twice as many rape victims .9% vs .4% in the US, twice as many assault victims, 2.8% vs 1.2% in the US, and about twice as many burglaries 14/1000 vs 7.4/1000 in the US. Its seems pretty obvious that well proteted citizens are responsible to that lower crime rate.

I guess the US will have to get over that you'll never grace us with your presence somehow...

Reference: www.nationmaster.com

 

I don't think they should be just sold to any random person (what if the person were abusive or something or had major ADD or something) I think the person should show them identifictaion but plus show them proof that they have some sort of medical issue (so they don't blow up on their wives or some people and start shooting at them) i dunno... all i know is that they shouldn't be given out to any random person

 

You don't have to watch Bowling for Columbine to understand the positives of gun control. You also don't have to be harmed physically to know the negatives of gun control.
Micheal Morre is also a member of the NRA. Do you know what that is?
Guns are not the problem. Guns do not kill people, people kill people.
Gun control is wrong. It's not for safety. It's fear.

 

i am very much agaisnt the use of all guns. i think guns should gradually completely outlawed.

that being said, i am a huge George A Romero fan, and paranoid zombie lover and i truely would sleep better at night with a glock in my drawer and a sawed off under my bed.

 

We'll I'm glad someone else here understands the needs of communities to defend aginst zombie insurgency. guns rock.

9mm is a chick gun, go for a .38

 

.44 here, but if you are afraid of kick. Settle for a .22 no kick there.

 

Gun control means hitting your target.


Sorry, couldn't help it.

 

You're not thinking of all possible -- or even likely -- scenarios.

Granny could just as easily be sitting home watching t.v. when someone comes to the door. Through the chain, she asks what he wants, and while his friend stands suspiciously almost out of sight, he claims his car broke down and would like to use the phone to call a tow truck. He seems... wrong somehow. She says no. He won't let her close the door all the way now, and he and his friend start to barge against it. She retreats to her bedroom -- dude, she doesn't HAVE to be 89 years old and move at a snail's pace. This could be a 42 year old mother of teenagers. She runs upstairs or to wherever her purse is and snags her little .40 cal Kahr semiauto and as the attackers are coming through the broken doorframe, she puts one or two into center-of-mass.

This happens to people. Home invasions have happened in very high-income neighborhoods near me right here in Florida (places with million-dollar homes). In some cases, you read in the paper where someone actually used a gun to repel invaders. The NRA puts out a magazine each month in which they detail -- from actual attributed news stories -- people who have used their guns to save their own lives or family members' lives.

It's not always about a quick-draw. Sometimes a person can put enough time or distance between herself and an attacker to get the weapon accessed.

It is, first of all, ILLEGAL to modify a semi-auto to full auto. Second, those "few mods" are actually nowhere near as simple as the press loves to make them sound. There is MACHINING involved, and in most cases the guts of the action are substantially different from semi-auto to full.

How would you make it "double illegal" to make a full auto out of a semi?

It's also illegal to ask around for help or "kits" to make the conversion: that's "conspiracy" to manufacture a full auto! You could go to jail for inquiring about getting the parts. I wonder if you knew that.

But you're right. Gun control accomplishes NOTHING.

Blue skies,
-Jeffrey

 

WTF are you talking about?

That's about as sensible as saying that allowing someone to buy a hunting knife is allowing them to slash the throat of a schoolteacher. Knives can get into the wrong hands. So can chainsaws. So can matches and bottles of gasoline.

You seem to know absolutely nothing about what you're talking about. If you paid attention, you'd know that despite the 1997 ban, gun crime and violent crime are both on the RISE in the UK. The ban should have presumably lowered gun crime, but it is indisputably going UP.

You're right, you'll be attacked loads for this comment, because it's preposterous and incorrect. It's far too simplistic to just say "a gun ban will have the exact effect in reality that it would on paper." You can't just write "guns are banned" in a law book and expect that they just disappear, and that criminals won't obtain them if they want them.

We've banned heroin, cocaine, ecstasy, marijuana... Do you believe that they are now impossible -- or even difficult -- to obtain?!

Madness. That's the only way you could believe the fallacy of gun control.

Blue skies,
-Jeffrey

 

Why? Is a person who owns seven guns more dangerous than if he owned only one or two?

Just how many guns can a person effectively use at one time, anyway? My vote: one.

How many baseball bats, knives, cars, cans of gasoline, and packs of matches do you feel people should be allowed by the government to own, by the way?

If you could point to ONE REASON why, apart from a knee-jerk reactionary standpoint, it would make sense to limit how many guns a single person could own, I would listen to your argument. But you just put the notion out there with not a scratch of reasoning to support it.

Blue skies,
-Jeffrey

 

Michael Moore is no more a member of the NRA in the traditional sense than Sarah Brady is.

Michael Moore HAS EXPLICITLY STATED that he joined the NRA because he hoped to get himself elected as its president eventually and then cause the organization to SUPPORT GUN CONTROL.

This is a matter of complete FACT. Here's the excerpt, followed by a link to a site that has the interview:

MM: I was a junior member when I was in the boy scouts when I was a kid, but I became a lifetime member after the Columbine massacre because my first thought after Columbine was to run against Charlton Heston for the presidency of the NRA. You have to be a lifetime member to be able to do that, so I had to pay $750 (about £450) to join. My plan was to get 5m Americans to join for the lowest basic membership and vote for me so that I'd win and dismantle the organisation. Unfortunately, I figured that's just too much work for me so instead I made this movie. But I'm still a lifetime member, until they excommunicate me... which is not far off, from what I hear.

http://film.guardian.co.uk/interview/interviewpages/0,6737,841083,00.html

I understand that the rest of your message is pro-gun rights. I just wanted to point out that Michael Moore joined the NRA for the purposes of deception.

The same reason he does just about everything else he does.

Blue skies,
-Jeffrey