Bush Planning To Nuke Iran!!!

Since when have Xians given a damn what the bible (I use the term with hesitation, since there's no such book, but rather a vast collection of different and sometimes conflicting versions) says?

Even if they did, it would be an act of faith to believe it was written by "God." Or that it provides "wisdom." Besides, could there even possibly be a more reprehensible, self-serving, and maliciously monsterous beast than the one described as "god" in the bible?

I generally refuse to take any credit for how well my kids turned out, but there's one thing I think we did very right, and which made a huge difference: we taught them to think and reason rather than to accept doctrine as a matter of faith. Religion and faith are the great disease of our time, and mankind may not be able to survive it.

And no, I don't think it exists "for some good but unknown reason," any more than I believe the same of an appendix, cancer cells, and so on.

Sorry to sound so harsh and bitter, but we're facing the prospects of global extinction of our species, and leading the charge towards mass death are "the faithful." And I really truly believe that Bush thinks he must push us into Armageddon in order to bring about "Christ's will" etc.

 

Now everyone from jr. on down is back-pedaling on the "nuke Iran" mantra.

The nuke Iran story was planted so bushco could tell just how terrible the next "al-queda" attack would have to be to goad the U.S. into choosing a path that could very well lead to the extinction of (human) life on earth.
The "al queda" attact would occur just before or after the Nov. elections. If before bushco could cancel the elections do to "homeland security"; if afterwards he'd declare the results invalid and just let in his henchmen.

 

wasn't bush going to cancel the november 2004 elections?

 

I think this is psych warfare against the Iranian government. I don't think the US could or would nuke Iran right now or near unless we were to be nuked by them...i think this was leaked on purpose to scare the Iran Gov.

 

I would be pissed if the military didn't prepare for the option of nuking Iran.

I would be really pissed if Bush ordered them to actualy do it. Especialy if they followed that insane order.

 

probably. Remember the MOAB being tested?

 

Moab?

 

massive ordinance air burst ... or mother of all bombs

 

to attack or not to attack them. well id go ahead and drop it on them if i was bush i mean he cant be reelected the republican party dont have a good canidate for next term so why not start a big war let some liberal pansy get in office then after 4 years get the republicans back in office.

but really though iran already said isreal should be wiped off the face of the earth. only one way for that to happen. and its to nuke it. thats the plan they want to go through with.
then stories about wanting a space program LOL just excuse for long range missle tests. so somebody if not the US then the JEWS will have to take first action agaisnt them. or else we will be having all kinds of commities calling for investagation on what the goverment knew and could have done to prevent a bombing here in the US if it happened.

for the polititans its a lose lose situation when it comes to enemies with nukes. they strike fisrt some get mad at them, they delay an attack untill attacked and people cry out why didnt you stop them.
so like i said what does bush have to lose by nuking them?

 

sounds like more bullshit paranoia, like with N. Korea a few years ago, look how that turned out.

Bush and his supporters are such fucking idiots.

yeah, that's the way to gain support from our Arab allies....nuke their neighbor. real intelligent foreign policy, folks.

he'd better stick to his plan of "diplomacy", resorting to violence would be a very foolish option.

 

Skip: Do you want them to have a nuclear bomb and be capable of bombing the US?

 

Megara, is killing people the alternative to them having a nuke? How many of their lives shall we spend to make ourselves feel safe? How many of their lives shall we spend to make Israel feel safe?

Does the potential destruction of American lives justify the deaths of Iraninans?

Now the nasty question: Is an Iranian life worth less than an American life?

(I hope that the US government values the lives of its citizens more highly than the lives of forgeiners. It their job to care more about US citizens than other people. I hope that the people of the US value all human lives equaly. I am aware that the second is a forlorn hope.)

 

I dont want a country that chants of "Death to America, Death to Israel" as they pass a resolution on nuclear enrichment to have a nuclear bomb. I'm sorry if you think i'm unreasonable in *not* feeling safe because of that.

Iran is openly belligerent towards the US and israel. Why would any *sane* person want them to have a nuclear weapon?

If it came down to the US/israel bombing nuclear facilities vs Iran having a nuclear bomb...yes, i'd want us to bomb the nuclear facilities.

With that said, i want diplomacy beyond exhausted before that becomes an option. No one *wants* to bomb Iran, but there are things that must be done if they pursue a nuclear weapon. A strong hand can only be used in diplomacy if you are willing to back up your threats.

Do you think we should be bluffing with our military threats and hope they buy them?

 

Hurrah for diplomacy. (no irony)
No, I don't want Iran to have nukes. No, I'm not willing to kill to keep them from having them. (However much of that choice I get to make.)
I take heart that nuclear weapons seem to have a tempering effect on countries. India and Pakistan didn't go crazy in their last war. Perhaps joining the nuclear club forces a country to realize that it has to act like a grown-up. (I hope.)

 

They would be in violation of international law. There are penalties for that.

But yes, i believe so. When a country so wantonly makes themselves an enemy of the US, we have the right to protect ourselves. They refer to us as "the great satan." They chant "Death to America" in their parliament. Yes, we have every reason to take these as acts of belligerents and *are* within our rights to protect ourselves. Obviously it is NOT in our benefit to bomb them. It is in our benefit to work it out peacefully. But we cannot remove that option just because they havent physically attacked us yet. That idea is ridiculous.

No. And i dont see the relevance to this.

I agree.