Chirac Scraps Youth-Labor Law, Bowing to Protests

Discussion in 'Protest' started by Aristartle, Apr 10, 2006.

  1. Aristartle

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  2. Megara

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    Now they can sit back and complain about not having a job ;)
     
  3. Megara

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    here's 2: Make a bigger government or get a better(larger) economy.

    The former seems like the easier one to accomplish.
     
  4. green_revolution

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    Chirac only scraped the law because a lot of the protesters were rioting. In my opinion, the protesters got it all wrong. They shut down universities and denied others the right to go to class until they got what they wanted which isn't cool.
    They should have kept the law.
     
  5. Chinese Troubadour

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    Chirac is incompetent, he has to resign. even Napoleon Bonaparte could do a way better job than him.
     
  6. gardener

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    So you all think because the voice of the people was heard and responded to, that it was the wrong thing? I find that puzzling. I think there will be jobs and in the future the youth of France will not be thought of as a separate lower class as far as employment.

    Instead of viewing his response as caving, why don't you view it as listening to the voice of the people?

    All of you that have voiced opinions in this thread are under 26. Do you realize if you had been French that new proposed law would have made your position in the labor force something that was neither taken seriously or protected by law. You would have been expendable, and fodder for the corporate bosses to use and discard. Thank god the French youth of today are more educated than the American youth.
     
  7. Megara

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    you mean we might have been fired from our first job? *gasps* THE HORROR!
     
  8. Last Stand

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    Napoleon was the only good thing france ever had.
     
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    even Hitler was better.
     
  10. Charise

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    Yeah, your first job, and your tenth too. I got sick of being arbitrarily fired here in the US-it really made me lose my motivation to learn all about a new job and do the best I can, and then they'd get rid of me so they didn't have to give me a raise or benefits. Screw all that. People that are in favor of this kind of system are fucking themselves in the butt, as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    I saw De Villepin interviewed on French TV and he said that they gave in to the student's demands because of rioting going on in universities.

    But you did point out an interesting aspect of the law which I hadn't considered, the part about workers being expendable. I dunno, like all issues, it's debatable. Anyways, the law has been scraped so no point in arguing over it now.
     
  12. gardener

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    The actual fact of that law would have lead to the youth being fired probably from their first 35 jobs, without cause. How would that look on your resume?
     
  13. Megara

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    this lasted until they were what..26 people?

    why on gods name would a company hire someone and fire them 5 days later? Remember, there are TRAINING periods with jobs. They aren't just going to hire someone, train them, and fire them right away. That is not good business.
     
  14. gardener

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    Certainly there are training periods and this law was written so that corporations could train employees, have them then train replacements then eliminate the first employee, without cause. Thus reducing overhead and continually replacing their labor force with new people that didn't qualify for benefits or protection, much like it works here in the states today. Think Walmart. And no one said it was a matter of just five days. I am sure the companies that lobbied for this bill were looking at employees that had served longer than that, or they probably would have fallen under standard probationary period standards. They wanted more leeway than that, they wanted free rein to fire without cause.
     
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  16. Megara

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    comparing walmart to a normal corporation is very misleading. Training for walmart is very differnet from a corporation. They do NOT want a massive turnover.

    You really think a whole entire corporation would be 'disposable'? Said company wouldn't last 6 months.
     
  17. gardener

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    Are you saying Walmart isn't a "corporation"? I don't know where you live but they are ever bit a corporate power. And their practices are what are driving employment law.
     
  18. Megara

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    The individual stores are NOT run like a normal corporation. There is a corporate headquarters for walmart, however. And that corporate headquarters would NOT want massive turnover.

    The stores do not care about a massive turnover. You really think Wal-mart would want a new CFO-CEO-CIO etc every 6 months? Nope. Their stock would plumet
     
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