abortion

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by cutkryingshame, Apr 4, 2006.

  1. cutkryingshame

    cutkryingshame Member

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    i just want to know what your views on abortion are....
     
  2. TheRealPamela

    TheRealPamela Member

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    jesus christ. Another long argument. This issue will never be agreed upon. I do not blame you for posting this thread but every thread that has an abortion question turns into a big argument. (See my "abortion misinformation?" post which started out on people's opinions about a website and ended up being a "you are wrong!" "no, YOU are wrong!" debate).
     
  3. cutkryingshame

    cutkryingshame Member

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    i agree with you i just want to see other people view's on it....my soon to be step mom is having one and that is my brother or sister that she's killing....i just want to see why people think it is right to have a abortion and maybe i can better understand why she want's to..
     
  4. hippie_chick666

    hippie_chick666 Senior Member

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    Perhaps check out some of the other abortion threads on this forum. I too am tired of this argument.

    peace and love
     
  5. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    Ask her why she thinks she needs an abortion. Tell her your concerns. Have a conversation about it, maybe you two can gain a little perspective from eachother.
     
  6. mr.morrison

    mr.morrison Senior Member

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    i dont think its bad as long as BOTH mother AND father have a say in it. the guy helped make the kid therefor it is partially his choice. and as long the baby is still in the extremely early stages. otherwise the baby is too old.
     
  7. MikeE

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    Rather than guess from our thoughts, have you talked with her about it. Have you talked with your dad about it?
    Is your issue with abortion or with the new woman in your life?

    I know I'm being blunt. Good luck with the new step-mom.
     
  8. Advaya

    Advaya Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    I have thought about this rather extensively because at one time I thought it was rather unfair that men had no say. I came to the conclusion that is called a woman's choice because it is her choice and her body. I don't think it's fair if a man would be emotionally scarred for life because he really really wanted his child and agreed to care for it for 18 years with no help at all from the mother. However, a woman would still be carrying the child for 9 months. A unwanted pregnancy is just that, unwanted.

    Myself personally, in the relationship I'm in, I could not have an abortion if my boyfriend wasn't supportive or in agreement. I have too much respect for him to do that. However, he has too much respect for me to force me to carry a baby I do not want. It would be a tough situation, but it would be my choice in the end either way.

    I realize from a man's point of view abortion could seem very unfair. With a bit of thought though you will probably realize abortion, pregnancy, birth etc affects a woman much more so than the man. A man could say he wanted the baby and that's that.

    All that said, I would highly admire a man who agreed to take total care of his child alone. And I would admire the woman willing to go through pregnancy to give him the child. However that sounds as though I would judge someone who has had an abortion, and I would not.

    People should have at least a general understanding of their partners point of view of things before ending up in these situations. A man who is very prolife should not sleep with prochoice women, obviously.

    Interesting you brought this up here Mr. Morrison, it made me think if something else..

    Cutkryingshame, how does your father feel about this? It seems he must be in support of it, because if issues which would be that huge are coming up before they're married then something is seriously wrong.
     
  9. sugrmag

    sugrmag Uber Nerd

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    People's opinions about abortions don't really have anything to do with the reasons that your stepmother has chosen to do this. Everyone has their own reasons for their choices. I agree with pp that said you should talk to HER about it. And if she doesn't want to, you should respect her privacy as well.
     
  10. cutkryingshame

    cutkryingshame Member

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    thanks everyone. i would talk to her but im not suppose to know about it my dad told me and im not suppose to know so ya....but yes i still respect her privacy but what am i suppose to do when its my brother or sister and my dads trying to blam it on me because i called her a bitch(befor i knew she was preg.) but anyways i called her a bitch for telling my dad something that i asked her to not say to anyone and now my dad is blaming me for making up her mind to get one..my dad wants the child and now im going to have to live with that the rest of my life because no matter how many times i apoligise for calling her that i know it will be worthless....(i cant spell sorry...lol)
     
  11. sugrmag

    sugrmag Uber Nerd

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    Honey, I'm so sorry that you are going through this right now. But, believe me, her decision to have an abortion is most definitely not because you called her a bitch. And, fwiw, I think it was very horrible of your father to tell you a-that she was even having the abortion because it is not something that you should have to deal with, and b-he should not be blaming it on you! The best thing that you can do now, is apologize to her for saying that.

    ((hugs)) I hope that everyone in your family gets through this. Please, do not blame yourself.
     
  12. May Aizelle

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    Im really pretty much deadset against it because I was adopted and I look at it as... dude my mom didnt want me for some reason.. and she could have probably just as easily had an abortion... but she didnt... and I keep thinking what if she would have... and then I never would have existed.... so yea.... plus I just think its wrong to take a life.. even though its still in the womb it is a life...... but i will say that if there's a strong chance that the mother or child would die through birth then..... I guess I could see why someone would chose it.. but I still never would...
     
  13. Sera Michele

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    Your dad is just being a dick if he is saying it is your fault she is having an abortion. You didn't make anyone's decision for them, your stepmom made her own decision. People don't get abortions because the step daughter called them a bitch a few months back.

    If your dad has a problem with his wife getting an abortion he needs to take it up with her and not put it off on you.
     
  14. Maggie Sugar

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    Your father is looking for someone to blame. NO ONE has an abortion because a teenager calls them a name. That is just silly. HE should have done something to PREVENT the pregnancy, if he was so damned worried about it. Responsible people decide what they will do in the event of a pregnancy BEFORE they ever get into bed for the first time. They are the adults, it is their (and mostly her) decision.

    Well, be this as it is, it is not your right to have a say in it. A womyn has the say in what goes on in her body, not anyone else. I won't discuss the abortion issue any more than this.
     
  15. Monk's_girl

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    I think it depends on your situation. I had a scare with the first guy i even went out with. It was only a short term thing, we both agreed on that. So when i thought i was pregnant i panicked completely. There was NO WAY i was having his child. I would have had an abortion in an instant.
    NOW though, i'm engaged and i had another scare a few months ago. The doctor i went and saw asked me if i was planning for kids. I said, we did want them, just not right now. She said, well, there are options you know, if the test comes back positive. I can't describe how horrified i was at the very suggestion. When the test came back negative, i was actually disappointed.
    I think it should be the parents right to choose. LIke someone else said, the father should have the choice. But even that's not so straight forward.
     
  16. Nisha

    Nisha Forlorn.

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    i think its mainly up to the woman.

    if i'm pregnant, maybe my guy can convince me to have a baby assuming he'll provide me with the best support for our kid. but if i don't want to have a baby, i think i will have an abortion if i need to.. just because it's happening in my body and i don't feel ready for it. - this is assuming my birth control pill fails... which i have been relying on for a year now...
     
  17. FreakerSoup

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  18. cutkryingshame

    cutkryingshame Member

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    well she had it...her and my dad are not together anymore...he's really beat up by it....she dosnt deserve a family anyways...my dad was good to her and did everything she said....now she lost the best thing she will ever have....o well shes a gold diging bitch anyways and guess what my dads not rich!!!
     
  19. Kinky Ramona

    Kinky Ramona Back by popular demand!

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    Sorry to hear that things worked out as they did. Is your dad okay? He's not blaming this all on you anymore, is he? From what you say, she sounds kind of...coniving, and if that's true, it's definitely a good thing it ended now instead of carrying on a big charad that would hurt not only your father, but you and any kids that could come into the picture in the future.

    As far as my stand on abortion goes, it's the woman's choice, her body, her decision to live with. I myself couldn't do it unless there was something severely wrong that would end up making my baby's life a living hell. I couldn't ever bring someone into the world knowing their entire life would be filled with pain just for my own gratification of having their love.
     

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