Is it safe for me to do acid again?

The mind is a toy? Pffft.

The mind is a tool that must be kept sharp. You can't sharpen a broken blade.

 

Yea really man that was one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever seen.

 

yeah i know what that guy was talking about when he said it's all in your mind and stuff, i used to believe that, until i would unexpectedly hear voices saying "come here!" and realize i had absolutely no control over when they would speak and what they would say. that is some scary shit. i know exactly what you mean, but man, you really can't understand it until you experience it.

thanks to everyone else i'll try to limit my drug use as much as i possibly can and if i ever do acid i'll make sure it's a low dose in a safe environment, and a one time thing purely for mind expansion. i really hope this goes away, i love my drugs. but i also love my mind.

 

wtf silencing what a godly advice!

talking to some of these people is kinda disturbing man, you should do. And change your ideas. Ive met a lady at a bustop who had the same confidence as you in what she was saying. But you know, it was about the little chinese people all in the room, with her dead mother who works with old people , going through walls, to reach multiple bathrooms. Then associated with the eiffel tower who wasnt 'gemometric' enough for her. 'Gemometry' is what she does all day, takin acetates and makin plans with geometrical shapes. And she sure hoped the parking there was more gemometric. But then she talked about hindus and didnt understand a fuckin word.

it is complete disorganization of everything in you.

I dont know schizo is heavy sometimes!!! And yes if they take it lsd, they might realize its an illusion that the symptoms are not part of a disorder, and they might just believe it more

But i kinda believe guided psychedelics session could help gain a bit of insight. Or not, which i believe too.

i believe there is something fucked up in me. but i dont know what...can havin had a problem with lsd (light psychosis) before, and continue smoking pot after, start to mimic symptoms of some illnesses? But im sure not psychotic, its just a light version of it, like a well insighted version of it.

 

Hofmann recommended psychiatrists try LSD to experience a schizophrenic episode.

 

I would guess it is to more understand the cycles of cognition in those people, with the idea one side of cognition is the psychosed one (blahblahblah) the other one not, which sees reality as it is (oh, a house! oh im hungry!), how to work on makin blance between the two. Maybe it was hopeless. I dont know, i had reflexions about it on lsd, didnt read quite on the work with schizophrenics ...lsd is not like an episode. though it has similarities with psychosis, the thing is you can watch your own psychosis (with the oh, a house! side)

 

Grapefruity - I would say that I have some sort of mood affective disorder, I wouldn't say it's bad enough to call it depression, maybe just some anxiety. This is my experience thus far with LSD.

Of the three times I've taken LSD, only the third one is really worth mentioning for this. The first time I just felt EXTREMELY high and had that electric buzz for like 8 hours. The seond was like the first, but with some visuals. The third was pretty ridiculous, and I had lingering visuals for about three months afterwards. I still get a weird flashback kind of thing when I'm taking a shower. But for those three months afterward, the way I was experiencing my life mimiced the stages of the trip perfectly. There was the initial coming up, energy, things cool cool/weird, funny stuff. Then kind of a "wow, this has been going on for a while." The first month or so left me in a state of awe about the whole thing.

Everytime I would go to smoke, it would kick the visuals back in, though it was only a general shifting kinda thing. Smoking would also give me that detatched, watching from further inside your body than normal feeling.

About three weeks before Christmas, I actually had a normal session of smoking kick me back into the trip for a while, but it was different. I was kicked back into almost a memory, only it was invented. It's weird to describe, but it was like I was experiencing a memory of a future event. What I saw was NOT good. I saw my life as having two paths; I was at a crossroads and I had to decide. I was being shown what would be if I continued the way I was going, and at first I struggled with this because I didn't see the other path immediately.

It took me about a month to get past the initial stage (which mimiced the part of the trip that I would consider bad) of self-loathing and fear of the future. I had a distinct sense that where ever I was at the current moment was the wrong place to be, everything I was doing was the wrong thing to be doing at that time.

Then I started reading about LSD and the associated spiritual stuff. I realized some of the things I had experienced where indeed helpful, and not just something I had done to get fucked up. I realized that it revealed the path to peace within myself, so long as I didn't get lost in the woods on the way there.

It did, however, have two rather odd effects on me. I haven't been able to smoke weed and enjoy it as much (if at all) with maybe two or three exceptions, all very recent. I also haven't been able to get drunk like I used to. It seems I've been able to stay extremely level-headed until I get sick, making it not enjoyable to attempt to get really drunk. Again, there are a few exceptions that have happened in the past few weeks.

That experience actually had more of an anti-drug effect on me than anything else I've ever seen or heard. Until very recently, and still to some extent, smoking weed hasn't been enjoyable because say maybe two days after I smoke, I get a short bit of depression. I didn't smoke for about a month and a half at the beginning of this year, and near the end of that, I was really feeling a lot better. I think that at least in my case, weed has contributed somewhat to the way I've been feeling, and taking acid certainly amplified that effect.

Hofmann said that LSD was originally given to psychiatrists so that they could experience the way people with mental disorders percieve things that to them are real, but that don't actually exist. I'd go look it up, I have a copy of My Problem Child printed out for an essay I'm writing, but I'm too lazy to go find that section right now. I do know he said that it didn't last very long, the suggestion that psychiatrists take LSD for that reason. There are other reasons for guides being very experienced (obviously, so that they can help the person before, during and after the experience), like a shaman would be.

And like you said Grape - a GUIDED experience could give a lot of insight, but to attempt that on your own is probably not a good idea. In My Problem Child, Hofmann discusses the toxicity of LSD and all that jazz, and he says that taken under the right circumstances LSD is nearly harmless. The next section is about LSD from the black market, and he talks about how the enebriation can cause extensive psychological damage if taken in the wrong context.

 

eat it... you'll be fine

I turned out ok.

 

hehe neuronaut , im like ya on some points

the bad thing that lsd started in my mind has made me, who was very abusive, unable to take say a speed pill without having serious depression for 3 days and it boosts my hppd (the visuals) like crazy and paranoia too. Hehe can't be an addict i tell you

how was the third trip?

 

@OP: The period of your life between 17 and 21 or so is probably the craziest, most stressful, most "WTF?!" period you'll ever go through, as you break away from everything you've known and strike out on your own. I was talking with a friend about that the other day, thinking that those 3 years 17-20 felt like as long as the rest of my life since then combined. The chances of finding a good guide at that age (or recognizing one if you do find him/her) are pretty slim, too.

I had/have some mild mental/mood disorder(s) that were greatly exacerbated by acid to the point of hearing voices, acting schizo and twitchy, and sliding from euphoria to hysteria in a matter of minutes. Not a pretty scene. I probably could have made things a lot easier on myself by limiting my drug intake, particularly psychedelics (including marijuana).

And yes, I learned a lot about myself through use of drugs, but I learned MORE about myself through conversation with friends, reading books, and paying attention to what was going on around me. Drugs FEEL like they open up limitless possibilities, but they don't make the business of changing the world (or changing yourself) easier—and they can actually be a distraction in many, many cases.

If you make it through your early twenties without manifesting any scary schizoid episodes, I'd figure you could give acid another trial run then. No rush; the acid will still be there.

Great book to read if you're interested in mental illness, the counterculture, and psychedelia: The Eden Express by Mark Vonnegut (yes, the son of Kurt Vonnegut). Cannot recommend highly enough.

 

so, if my uncle has schizophrenia... will psychedelics bring it out in me?

 

possibly.. only if you already have it.. you might not, but hey, you might..

 

hehe...

im guessing it could trigger it

be careful, or not

 

all i can say is at the end of the the no matter what mental state u r in if u do acid and think negative thoughts acid is gonna kick ur ass it may do so even if u r positive but the chances are far less.so if u think u may have mental problems and are already nervous bout doing lsd that means u already have a negative outlook towards lsd and hence should possibly avoid it not coz someone in ur family has mental problems.so stop listening to these great shrinks!!!! and do lsd when u want to do it and are ready ........if there is doubt then it is an invitation for an ass kicking hehehehehehe