The best place to be a Muslim

Discussion in 'Islam' started by Phrensied Rabbits, Mar 9, 2006.

  1. Phrensied Rabbits

    Phrensied Rabbits Member

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    What do you think?
     
  2. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    anywhere where you can stop people asking questions or leaving islam ,

    somewhere where you can follow the teaching and behavior of mohammed slavery, pedophilia, rape, torture, murder .

    I think you will have a hard time really following mohammeds teachings as you dont have slavery anywhere legally, and you cant have sex with children that havnt reached puberty like mohammed did with aisha legally .

    so I would say there isnt a ideal place to be a muslim maybe somewhere like sudan or saudi are the nearest you will find
     
  3. Anaconda man

    Anaconda man I am not a hippy

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    How about back in the middle east?
     
  4. Spacer

    Spacer 'Enlighten yourself'

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    I love the way you two add so much to this forum.....
     
  5. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    thanks spacer:)
     
  6. Irish Hippy

    Irish Hippy Member

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    sorry lads, you guys are in the wrong forum...
    this is HIPFORUMS, home of the hippy flower folk....
    i think you are looking for stormfront or one of the other racialist sites
    personally i am not a fan of racism and putting other cultures and people down, but i hope you enjoy your stay at your new site, now that you know where to find like minded people.
    Peace and Love
     
  7. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    irish hippy I dont think you know this but islam isnt a race its a religion or political ideology .

    and half my family are chinese so I dont think somehow I would fit in at stormfront, I have lots of friends who also dont like islam as much as me most of them are not white, mughal on this forum I think comes from india or pakistan

    I think you are being very racist in that you seem to be saying that you cant be critical of a certain religion because you seem to associate it with a certain race .

    in iran at the moment they are stoning people to death , if this was happening in sweden dont you think there would be more protest and if thats the case isnt that racism .

    you can be racist several ways one ways you can be racist by discriminating against someone on the basis of their race , you can also be just as racist by discriminating in favour of someone because of their race .


    I hope you respond to this post
     
  8. Phrensied Rabbits

    Phrensied Rabbits Member

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    It's okay, man.
    There's a lot to be said for Jonny.
    His voice is nice to have here.
    It'd just be boring and ultimately
    fruitless without him.
    You can't learn anything without
    somebody there to bring up the
    issues.
     
  9. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    oh and what race is cat stevens? and why dont you make a post in this forum telling muslims they can only be of a certain race , that all the blond haired blue eyed muslims cant really be muslims .
     
  10. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    thank you rabbit it gets me when people think that either islam is associated just with one race or that all critics are racists when the biggest and best critics are black or brown, and no way neo nazi.
     
  11. Phrensied Rabbits

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    I can't have anyone knocking your name like that, man.
    You're a good guy. He was out of line with that 'racist' bullshit.
    We're all brothers here, Irish Hippy,
    if we get mad at each other at times, that doesn't mean we
    want to throw each other out of the forums for not agreeing
    with everything one thinks.
     
  12. Anaconda man

    Anaconda man I am not a hippy

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    ^^^ Does that go for me too Rabbits?
     
  13. Phrensied Rabbits

    Phrensied Rabbits Member

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    Uhm...
    You're just an asshole.

    hehehe
    I'm kidding, man, of course I like you
     
  14. Anaconda man

    Anaconda man I am not a hippy

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    Ahahaha, me too. I like our little differences of opinions.

    Just for the record though to IrishHippy, about me being a racist, you couldn't be more wrong. Again religion is not a race, and you'll be surprised to know that my father was Muslim and I was almost given an Islamic name at birth. As I've already said my best friend is a dark skinned Muslim who is also my ex-girlfriend. I have numerous other friends that are Muslim, so I'm not a racist. I just think the religion is backward, and needs to progress. But (for you Rabbits) I also acknowledge that Christianity is far from perfect.
     
  15. Irish Hippy

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    Yea guys ur right.... im sorry that i said that saying a muslim cant be a muslim without having sex with kids and taking slaves is wrong.... wat was i thinking?
    Personally im all for driving rifts between people, and starting inter community hatred and enmity. Why "make love, not war", when u can start a fight?
    Generalising muslims and their practices to pedofilia, rape, torture, murder and all those other nice things mentioned above, i feel is good practice. I wonder where i ever got the idea of racial (or social group, if u want to be more accurate) prejudice from????
    peace and love
     
  16. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    irish hippy is it better to be honest with people or tell them bullshit?

    if I point out why I think christianity is wrong is that racist ?

    if you have someone who believes in the old testiment of the bible and they wanted to follow it fully, they would have to agree with slavery and stoning as they are both in the old testiment .
    so is incest sending out your daughter to get gang raped ect ect ect .

    would I be a racist if I pointed this out or would I be a racist like you if I didnt point it out and censored myself .
     
  17. busmama

    busmama go away

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    hahaha, come on my best friend is a christian, and we can spend hours debating why her religion is wrong, or why mine is wrong but at the end of the day we are still friends. being a "hippy" does not mean we can't discuss certain issues, rather that we can discuss any issue and still be on speaking terms. Jonny, Anaconda and anyone else should feel free to say whatever they want whether or not we choose to agree or disagree is up to us.
    You're new here, you are going to have to get used to people saying how they feel, it's a FREE SPEECH forum.
     
  18. Irish Hippy

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    Free speech does not mean hate speech Busmama...lol.. and as for being new... im here almost as long as u :p
    If u guys wanna keep hating be my guest.... im not going to waste my breath on you.
    Enjoy the rant ;)
    peace and love
     
  19. busmama

    busmama go away

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    Actually it does.

    Back to the question, I think that wherever you are is the best place to be a muslim. If it something you truly believe in and want to be a part of, don't let borders be a burden. As for where it may be best tolerated, it seems to be in the middle eastern, some African and some of the eastern European countries. I would like to be able to say America here, but I am afraid that fear and bad info have *maybe* prejudiced a lot of Americans.
     
  20. stoney69

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    irish hippy, im glad to read "voice of reason". madjonny et al can claim to be championin the cause of showin us the light (funny funny) trouble though is they need to learn basics of debates and that'd include the objective usage of the so-called freedom of speech, not hate speech or dumb speech. bein anti-islamic and bringin up references of anti-islamic websites and ex muslims gone anti-islamic cannot truly form the basis of objective debate or discussion

    oh well, i've said this b4 ..brick walls, that's all you get with such personalities
     

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