The best place to be a Muslim

BM, it wasn't really a 'help-me' kind of question.
I just like seeing people evolve the question into a real discussion.
Hopefully, sometimes, inteligence comes out of it,
but a lot of people just take face value of what they see.

When you get a well put answer like yours, it tends to lead to actual thinking.
This time I guess not, though.

S/A everyone

 

So what does freedom of speech include then? I think that we can treat this as a simple list for the time being. So far we know some things that it does not include, and that is what I will make a list of. I will assume that anything not on the list is included in free speech. As for me people who don't like cheese really piss me off, so I'll put that on there too.

What Free Speech Does Not Include: A Work in Progress

1. Dumb speech
2. Hate speech
3. Anti-islamic speech
4. Cartoons of Muhammad
5. Links to anti-Islamic websites
6. Saying bad things about Cheese
7. ?


On topic now. I would Imagine that (surprise surprise surprise) the best place to be a Muslim is either America or western Europe. Number one reason: Freedom, that's right, freedom. Also, no wars, no famine, no epidemics, you don't have your Muslim "brothers" trying to kill you for being Sunni or Shia. Sure there is plenty of shit about America that sucks. I ought to know, I live here My point is that the best place to be is the best place to be whether you are a Muslim or not, and the worst place to be is the worst place to be, whether you are Muslim or not. Now of course there will be some places that are better or worse for muslims or non-muslims, but those are usually isolated and extreme cases. Sudan for example. In Sudan the Muslim ruling class is running a very effective genocide against all non-muslims. That is a much better place to be Muslim than western Kashmir where they are trying to kill all the Muslims. I was going to mention Iraq, but then that is simply a bad place to be right now. Seems as though everybody is trying to kill everybody else there.

 

stoney you have not been able to disprove what Ive said about early islam and mohammed , I have used authentic sources the koran and sahih haddith but to try to fool either yourself or people who dont know much about islam you have claimed these authentic sources are not true .

if you were less narrow minded you would read back through what I have said and if you are still unable to disprove what I say maybe it is time for you to consider you have been lied to and islam is false .

Irish hippy you have as your sig picture a picture of george bush and hitler isnt this showing hatred of bush? why dont you embrace him and hitler ?
or is it ok to be critical of people you think of as white but wrong to be critical of people Irish hippy thinks of as black or brown.

Ive asked you a number of questions you dont seem to have answers for .

I think you are a racist Ive said this before and I will explain why you are .

firstly you are confused Islam is a religion it is not a race

Irish hippy seems to think it is a race and that for some reason you cant be critical of it

Irish hippy hasnt said how he feels about people being critical of the bible and whether christianity is a certain race too .

There are two types of racists in this world .

The type who discriminate against someone because of their race.

The other type discriminates in favour of someone because of their race, Irish hippy is this type of racist but even a even more confused racist because he thinks a religion that has a universial message and followers of all races actually belongs to this race he discriminates in favour of .

if its ok for me to point out why the bible is false by pointing to the support of slavery why isnt it ok for me to do the same with islam ?

why I answered the original question of where in the world is it best to be a muslim and refered to slavery is that mohammed was a slaver and slavery is part of islam .

It isnt practiced to the same extent today, but if you want to get to the real islam and truely follow mohammeds example you would have to have slavery .

this is just the same as someone who wanted to follow the old testiment you would need to point out to them that if they want to follow the bible they need to support things like slavery because thats in the original book.

the fact is that Irish hippy has no real argument to defend what hes saying thats why all he can do is say your a racist without being able to back it up ....and off he goes still as confused and racist as ever

 

Those are the words I was waiting for

Ain't it the truth?
Messed up world, man...
What can ye do?

Well, Salaam, guys

 

i corrected the word "race" already, seen as u didnt like it..... where did u say ur local specsavers was again johny?

 

I asked you some questions Irish hippy you dont appear to be able to answer them ?

I also explained to you why you are a racist .

if you didnt mean race and you meant social group ,christianity is a social group is it ok to be critical of that ? bush supporters are a social group you seem to feel its ok to link bush and therefore bush supporters with hitler .

so there are some social groups Irish hippy thinks its ok to attack could you explain why you have this double standard ?

 

Because some are better than others!
heheeh
Now, quiet you!
{whip-shh} <(^_^<) hahaha

That's a damn good point, though.
It would be a majour personal effort for every person
to treat every other like a human being.
Apparently, most people just don't feel it's
worth the effort.