Socialism, capitalism, or anarchy

Discussion in 'The Whiners' started by toy wars, Apr 22, 2006.

  1. toy wars

    toy wars Member

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    socialism, while having the potential to be dangerous once someone wants power, is a very good political scheme. but you are quite repressed and never are able to rise up in life.

    capitalism on the other hand only helps the rich man, and degrades the poor man. capatilism is about family and money, much like another old thing people called monarchy. but there is always the chance to rise to power unlike socialism.

    anarchy, while many punks love the idea of it, would make the world a very dangerous place to live. the lack of government would make everything in turmoil and many people would die until a man or woman rose to power.

    I didnt put this in the political forum because I wanted the young hippies opinion.
     
  2. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    This is quite possibly one of the least informed threads I've come across
     
  3. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    yeah. i can't stand these little 14 year old children who think they know about politics.
     
  4. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    Since when is anarchy an economic system (the grouping with socialism and capitalism implies that it is)? Whereas the descriptions of socialism and capitalism make it seem that they are political systems.

    And since when is the root concept of capitalism family?
     
  5. spooner

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    don't even waste your time.
     
  6. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    I might use it to brush up for my poli-sci final on tuesday. But then again, the only chance that this stuff will be on the final is if it a choice for the argumentative essay, and I know i am not going to write on this....

    haha, oh well...this thread will die soon
     
  7. spooner

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    yeah. its pretty much gotten to the point where i refuse to discuss politics on this forum because of all the handicaps.
     
  8. toy wars

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    allright. anarchy isn't a political system i realize this. I put it in there as a thing people against any system could choose.

    Also about capitalism being based around family. If someone has a family in a high paying business that,say, they started, will have a much better chance in the world than the son of a hooker or bum.

    I may be digging the grave deeper, but the only real reason I put this on here was to see what the majority of people like the most.
     
  9. spooner

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    Does it matter? You have put obvious biases into your descriptions (and I'm pretty sure you barely understand the concepts anyway).

    Maybe you should look away from extremes.

    Social democracy. Mixed-market capitalism. etc.
     
  10. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    It is a political system (or lack thereof). I said the way you structured your thread you implied it was an economic system.

    That has nothing to do with what sort of political r economic system you have, it can acctually depend on what sort of decent pattern and hereditary system your culture uses. A daughter of a well of person could easily end up a prostitute (well not a prostitute, but she would be not well off) if she cannot marry into a wealthy family in some cultures
     
  11. toy wars

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    I was thinking of putting somethings else in there but do ,as you said, did not fully grasp the concepts of them, so I labeled them as "other".

    And yes I am biased to socialism, the original title of the thread was "socialism. Yea, or nay." but I changed it to cover different political systems.
     
  12. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    And then you can mess around with the word democracy too and talk about single member pluralities, or Single non-transferable votes, single transferable votes, mixed member plurality, proportinal representaion, and a plethora of many others...
     
  13. spooner

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    thats not really relevant though.
     
  14. toy wars

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    Thats why I said that they will have a better "chance" of leading a better life. of course a rich mans daughter could become a prostitute, but the chances are much lower then if the same person was born into a lower class family living in the slums of New York.

    And about the social democracy? I really dont understand it. I'm just getting into political systems, and these are the three that spark my attention most.
    I dont have a degree in political systems, Hell I'm still in high school, and a freshman at that! I practically fully grasp all that I posted earlier, but more advanced forms confuse me more than inform me. I just posted this to see where the young hippies stood, not to be attacked you and spooner. thanks for voting though.
     
  15. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    I just wanted to be a smart ass...

    I am done in here...
     
  16. spooner

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    nobody ever said politics was nice.

    but lets be honest here: if you admit that you don't understand things, don't make a judgement yet.
     
  17. toy wars

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    yes and while i do not fully understand all political systems, I do understand the 3 I posted earlier. and out of those three I chose socialism, because it would help keep all people on a level playing field (without all those annoying variables)
     
  18. mushie18

    mushie18 Intergalactic

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    i heart a free market.
     
  19. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    Mate, i cannot vote on a poll that is so limited.


    Im a marxist, but, on a poll where anarchy is just one thing (as you get anarcho-primitism, anarcho-syndiaclism, anarcho-capitalism etc), and the description of it is quite naive, i cannot take the poll seriously.
     
  20. lalalamort

    lalalamort Fucked up upstairs

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    im more of a capitalist-commie-marx-facsist
     

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