First time HBR use

My experience with hallucinogens is, by far, rather limited, I never have done LSD or shrooms before, only thing I have done was my homemade absinth (good stuff, Wouldn't call it a hallucinogen, but thats not why I made it). Anyway, While I can easily score some LSD or Shrooms up here in the Land of Enchantment, I rather go more natural and try the HBW Seeds. So here are my questions.

1) Whats a good place to buy some online, ethnosupply.com is a site i'm looking at, but then Iamshaman sells more for less, which leaves me very skeptical. is The ethnosupply one anygood? For I'm buying just the small 25 seeds pack.

2) Some ideas for ingesting them, and what is excess

3) Anything to look out for

And finnaly, If I do enjoy them, Myself being a learning herbalist, as well as a practicing home bartender, is there anything drink wise I could mix this with that would keep it's effect and not taste to bad (or worse, kill ya)

Thanks guys

 

I've gotten some off of salviasupply.com before. I have done them 3 seperate times. It seems that every time is VERY different. The first time I took 9 and smoked right after I ate them because the nausea can be intense from these things. Most of the nausea is caused by the shell though which you are supposed to try and get most of it off if possible. Well the first time when I took 9 was awesome, the nausea lasted only 10-20 minutes and then went away for the rest of the night. My friend and I began tripping just as the nausea passed and had an excellent trip.

The second time I took 16 and ingested them in a very stupid way. I put them in a bottle of water to soak them overnight and then fasted for the day. My friend and I both ate our shares and drank the water (which was stupid) I ended up throwing it up and not having a pleasent trip really. I fell asleep rather quickly and missed most of it. I woke up feeling very tired and quite poisioned and feeling as I had a hangover or was actually drunk. I as I walked it felt like things were spinning, and I still had slight nausea. I spent that day resting.

Then the third and final time I took a very small dose because it was all I had left. I only took 4 but this time I tried the method of trying to get as much of the shell off as possible and then smashing them with a hammer untill they were broken down into a fine powder. I swallowed the powder with orange juice. I felt an uncomfortable feeling in my stomach and some slight nausea for a little while but nothing too unbearable. This can be attributed to not smoking much weed at all really after ingesting them. It was a smooth comfortable mellow trip though.

So the IMO the best way to ingest is to get as much shell off as possible and then crush them up into a powder. Take the powder with orange juice or something. Also smoke ALOT of weed not only does it help with the nausea but it adds alot to the experience.

 

whyd you say you could score shrooms, but then say you want to go for something more natural?

 

Yeah I didn't pick that up it is a good point. If you can score shrooms or LSD I'd take them over HBW anyday.

 

yea, id reccomend the shrooms or acid. its more of a pure trip and isnt as bad for you. Don't get iamshaman though, they dont have good hbwr seeds. their other stuff is good though. I like morning glories better and they dont get you as sick.

 

I guess I didn't think about the whole natural thing with shrooms, simple mistake

 

IamShaman is the coolest site I've ever come across. I just filled out a form and put in the cash and in like 3 days my stuff came. They are very trustworthy and keep you updated with your order.

 

well there are 2 sites i ordered from so I can have a controlled experiment both with 2 seeds, one was from an american site and the other from an overseas site. The American site sold seeds from the dominican republic (???) and the overseas site has no info on the seeds orgin. While the US site took more then 2 days to deliver (after I paid for express), the seeds were bunk, even high doses of 10 did nothing. However, the overseas site, which took 2 weeks to deliver had much beter quality seeds that worked after only taking 2.

US seeds on the Left, Overseas seeds on the Right
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There was not much of a weight difference but the US site, which I ordered 8g, gave me more then the overseas site, which I ordered 10g, it was a major difference by almost 50 seeds, but none the less the 8g didn't work any way. I won't disclose the overseas site unless asked, but i'll let you all know, never buy from mjb botanicals.

There was no sick feeling either, which leads me to belive that A) I was Tolerant of it, B)I Cleaned them Well, C)I Ate. I bring up C because I know after drinking, smoking or anything, doing it on an empty stomach makes you more sick.

so in conclusion, 2 seeds brought a decent time, but nothing I would be too interested in trying again, so now onto attempting to grow these little guys.

 

I just picked about 20 seed from the wild. I know I have to get rid of the fuzzy shell or else I will get sick.

Should I try them?

Is anyone experienced enough here to give me some good advice on the best way to trip off of them?

Basically some of the reports I've read say the good stuff is polar soluble and the bad stuff is non polar, so can anyone confirm this?

ALright end of questions and I really wanna trip so any input is greatly appreciated.

 

So I had the seeds just laying on a bookshelf and last night after a lot of beer one of my friends sees them and asked what are those. Once I told he just started eating them, I warned him that he probaly should not do that given he had to work the next day and since he was eating them I figured I should too. There were 25 and we ate all of them so each of us had about 12 or 13. After about 30 minutes he starts feeling funny and I felt alright, after another 30 minutes he says he's trippin' and I feel like Im on the verge. Shortly after he went home and I passed out. I woke up feeling a little more than hungover but nothing to write home about.

I was hoping to do a little extraction to the seeds but what happend happend. I might try them again, just more seeds and a little prep and a few more days just in case last night built up my tolerence.

So I didn't get much and my friend was a maniac, though he was smoking some pot and I can't because I have a UA coming up. I suppose they work and neither of us got sick. Not a bad experience considering they are free.

 

The whole polar/non-polar thing has had quite a workout here. Lots of info. It appears that there's no reliable way to get rid of the nausea... but keep trying.