Moussaoui says he wants more 9/11s

Discussion in 'Politics' started by matthew, Apr 14, 2006.

  1. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    Thankyou.. i'll check it out. not had a vast amount of time recently.. but i will .. thanks again.

    Apologies for not getting involved in your somewhat cynical POV..in the last few post.. I appreciate it is your opinion..and i'll leave it at that [i think we may fall out - ;) ]..
     
  2. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    Dude your an idiot, the only reason i posted that prisonplanet.com link was because it had a video straight from MSNBC, Prisonplanet.com wrote nothing AT ALL, it is purely a link to a video, but im sure you didnt even watch it or click the link so you wouldnt know.
     
  3. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Moussaoui's Mental Health Debated in Court Click.
    Peace and love
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
    [​IMG] Note: Silly, Irrelevant, and the like, responses, posts, comments will be ignored (it depends on my mood and time if I won't ignore them), taking off the topic is losers' style losers' fate , ask yourself: will you write such response if the writer wasn't a Muslim!
     
  4. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    Oh well. At least the INS didn't renew Moussaoui's visa 6 months after 911. They renewed 911 hijacker Mohammed Atta's visa 6 months after he was dead. Maybe some people at the INS are in need of some mental treatment.

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  5. Pointbreak

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    This raises a question that has come up many times before - do you think before you copy and post prisonplanet stories? I mean seriously, do you filter out anything or do you pretty much buy into all of it, relying on the "plausible deniability" line since the video came from MSNBC?


    Think about it - He is facing the DEATH PENALTY. Is he afraid of an electric shock? What's going to happen - "How do you plead?" "Not Guilty!" ZZZZZZZZZZZAAAAAAAAAAAP!!! "I MEANT GUILTY!"

    Yeah nobody would notice anything odd about that. Good thing we have the geniuses at Prisonplanet looking out for this kind of thing.
     
  6. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    it's funny you don't realize the majority of articles on that site are from mainstream and well respected alternative news sites, i would say about 15% of the articles on there are written by people affiliated with alex jones or prisonplanet.com, there was recently an article in the SF chronicle which claimed that "All Americans saw the plane hit the pentagon" when referring to 9/11 conspiracies...prisonplanet.com wrote an article saying this was totally untrue, and that nobody except the FBI and CIA have seen the videos which supposubly caught the airplane hitting the pentagon, after the article was written the SF chronicle saw it and was forced to write a retraction, so no matter what you think of prisonplanet.com it is taken as a refutable news source...google uses it as one of their news sites...and many of the articles written by them are posted in foreign newspapers all the time. The fact is Moussaoui is nothing more than a patasy and a dupe, anyone that knows anything about terrorism on the mass scale of 9/11 knows that serious professionals are called on to carry out a task like that...people who don't make names of themselves and attract attention, the patsies, the ones who take the fall for these huge atrocities are the ones like Moussaoui, and Oswald, and Atta (who happens to enjoy strippers and booze the night before he dies for allah, which is forbidden by islamic law).
     
  7. Pointbreak

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    Actually I do realise that, which I why I point out that you (and Alex Jones) use mainstream media links and then draw completely unsupported conclusions from them, but when questioned you just say "its mainstream media"!
    Actually the article DID include commentary, from total411.info, a conspiracy website and not mainstream media by any standard, and you're telling us we probably didn't watch the video? I was obviously paying more attention than you were.

    The commentary says that the reporter "lets slip" that Moussaoui is wearing a Stun belt. But saying he "lets slip" is entirely premised on the idea that there is a conspiracy and he meant to hide that fact. And the commentary completely ignores the fact that he said he thinks there might be a stun belt and reports that there was a stun belt. This is because conspiracy theorists are not professional journalists, and don't give a crap about the truth. The commentary also states that Zacarias Moussaoui "suddenly" testified today to a version of the 9/11 plotline "that sounds more like the Official story than even the official Whitewash Commission report". Well, did he "suddenly change his story"? Not really. Is the "Whitewash Commission" really an objective term? No. I'm not sure if you are even capable of seeing bias any more, even if you were to make the effort.
    They obviously mixed up the Pentagon and the WTC, and in any case there were plenty of eyewitnesses to the Pentagon crash too. This is hardly a triumph of Alex Jones' investigative journalism.
    It is very refutable. On the other hand, it is not reputable.
    The fact is? Which part of the MSNBC video proves any of that?
     
  8. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    I think Pointbreak covered most of what i was going to say..

    I would add i DID watch it...

    Takfiri ideology originated in a similarly named sect in Egypt in the 1970s and burst into notoriety with the assassination of Egyptian President Anwar Sadat in 1981. The doctrine spread during the Afghan war in the 1980s and was brought back to North Africa by veteran mujahedeen who preached to young people.


    Although Takfiris espouse a hard-line interpretation of Islam, the ideology is popular because it encourages followers to reconfirm their faith by breaking its own rules. That flexibility, coupled with their seemingly deeper integration into Western life, makes it harder for police to detect them. It also gives Takfiris an ability to choose soft, civilian targets that will have the biggest

    political impact in each country. The Madrid attacks came just three days before national elections and helped lead to an upset victory for the Socialists, who want to pull Spanish troops out of Iraq.


    http://www.machinehunger.com.au/LivingTomorrow/wallstreet.html



    "Takfiri leaders in the region are focussing their efforts on attracting first-, second, and third-generation Muslims to the movement by manipulating feelings of alienation and disorientation… and Coalition activities in Iraq and Afghanistan continue to provide fuel to the call for jihad."
    http://www.janes.com/press/articles/pc050131_1.shtml
     
  9. Angel_Headed_Hipster

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    ok dude just believe whatever you want but i know for a fact that certain elements of the military and intelligence agencies of western countries funds, has funded, and will fun terrorists and terrorist activites that follow their agenda. Proffessors of the highest caliber have written papers on it, many prominent CIA and MI6 agents believe it and have gone on the record like david shayler, and a lot of ordinary people are starting to believe it. You can come on here and call us grassy knoll conspiracy theorists when 80% of the country on a CNN poll thinks the CIA killed kennedy, but that won't do anything to stop the truth thats slowly coming to view.
     
  10. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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  11. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    No Moussaoui 'shoe bomber' link
    whatso
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  12. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    75% [within the UK] think Jesus Christ is the son of God and our saviour.. does that make that true ?.

    I don't doubt:

    ''elements of the military and intelligence agencies of western countries funds, has funded, and will fund terrorists and terrorist activites that follow their agenda''

    That is clearly true... you can read many articles about that http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4332.htm are they funding OBL and did they fund strikes on America .. i don't think so.

    One mans terrorist and all that... we may deplore who's side goverments wish to side with.. but imho it is generaly aimed a 'better world' .. shockingly naive as that may sound.

    Do i believe someone else was also involved in the JFK assasination ?... no.

    I don't ever wish to mock what you believe.. i just don't buy into a lot of it.. sorry.
     
  13. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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  14. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    http://www.pollingreport.com/news2.htm
     
  15. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    Ok That was my mistake...the poll (Given in 2001) said that 81% believed that other men were involved, but it still prooves my point that if you believe in a conspiracy involving JFK then you are branded a conspiracy theorist even know the majority of the country according to this poll believes so, the poll was given again in 03 and 75% believed it, so it's still the majority of the country, and reading throguh the rest of the polls the majority of the country in every single one seems to believe there was more men involved and a OFFICIAL coverup of the act. Read them for yourself...

    Gallup Poll. Nov. 10-12, 2003. Nationwide.

    "Turning now to the assassination of John F. Kennedy in 1963: Do you think that one man was responsible for the assassination of President Kennedy, or do you think that others were involved in a conspiracy?"

    Others Involed? 75% (03) 81% (01) 75% (93)

    "As you may know, President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in November 1963, 40 years ago this month. From what you know about it, do you think the important facts about the assassination have been reported or do you think there are still important unanswered questions about the assassination?"


    Still Questions: 76% (83) 65% (03)


    "Do you feel the Kennedy assassination was the work of one man, or was it part of a broader plot?"

    Broader Plot: 70% (03)

    "Do you think Lee Harvey Oswald was the only gunman in the Kennedy assassination, do you think there was another gunman in addition to Oswald there that day, or do you think Oswald was not involved in the assassination at all?"

    Another Man Involved: 51% (03)

    "Do you think there was or was not an official cover-up to keep the public from learning the truth about the Kennedy assassination?"

    Was: 68% (03)

    "This November is the 40th anniversary of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Do you feel that the assassination of President John F. Kennedy was the act of one individual or part of a larger conspiracy?"

    Part of a larger conspiracy: 66% (03)

    "Do you think that we know all the facts about the assassination of President John F. Kennedy or do you think there was a cover-up?"

    Coverup: 74% (03)

    CBS Poll

    "Do you think one man -- Lee Harvey Oswald -- was responsible for the assassination of President Kennedy, or do you think there were others involved"

    Others Involved: 76% (98)

    "Do you think there was an official cover-up to keep the public from learning the truth about the Kennedy assassination?"

    Yes, Coverup: 74% (98)

    "Do you think that eventually we will know the whole story about the Kennedy assassination, or do you think we will never really know about what happened?"

    No 74% (98)

    It's a sad day in america when a president gets murdered, the government covers it up, and the people who are supposed to control the government don't even get to know how and what happened to him, and then we get trolls like pointbreak and matthew on here to try and demonize hardworking people who spend their lives trying to find out the truth so you and me can live in a free society...people like matthew and pointbreak would rather sit back and relax and let things happen, they don't think we should do anything about the corruption, hell they don't even see the corruption beyond a few low time lobbyists and scapegoat politicians, why don't you wake up to this, if you want to know what's really going on in this world don't listen to their trolling messages where they crack jokes and make fun of people who believe things that the majority believe!



     
  16. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    I never crack jokes or make fun at your expense.. if you believe i have or can find when i have.. I will apologise.

    Have i mentioned anything about gay lizards at any point in time ?.

    How many bloody names have you called me over the last couple of weeks.. maybe even more since i have been here.. i'll go and check shall i :p

    We can both learn a little from each other.. did you know about 'Takfiris'.. did that come into any of your equations at all ?..

    If i am speeling off some stuff and somebody points out a naivety.. i can appreciate and accept that... and don't have a issue with it..

    All i said in relation to my own personal POV is ''i don't buy into it''..

    Of course i have looked into it..and read certain 'CTs' [for want of a better word] .. and 'i don't buy into it''.. simple as that.. show me as many polls as you like..

    A snippet of something i have read about it
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3226908.stm
     
  17. cynical_otter

    cynical_otter Bleh!

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    There are gay lizards?
     
  18. Pointbreak

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    Yes, and they can shape-change and time-travel. And they control the central banks.
     
  19. Last Stand

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    We really dont give a dam what that idiot arab muslim retard wants. driving to your local favor store is far more dangerus than a few terrorist.
     
  20. cynical_otter

    cynical_otter Bleh!

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    That explains alot of my bad luck. Oh what have I done to incur the wrath of the gay space lizards?!!
     

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