Bitter LSD

no it's not.
you said "acid isn't an acid", and actually it is.

it's the quoted constant from lysergic acid (not the amide, but the acid component, which is the psychoactive moeity anyway) #5664 (Merck 12th. Ed); LSA (#5663 lysergamide) doesn't have a pKa listed, neither does LSD (#5665).

Diethylamine is strongly basic, but most "acid" comes in tartrate form (from d-tartaric acid), so, yes...it's an acid; if it was basic, it would be an inactive nor/iso-LSD compound.

 

Acid tingles my tongue

Like...it doesn't have a strong taste...but it doesn't taste like just paper either...it's got some sort of feeling to it...dunno, it feels different than regular paper...that'll all I know.

 

But how do you know, if you don't have a measurement of it, the pka, pkb or ph number,etc? Assumptions in chemistry are not very scientific. In the Merck index in says that LSA behaves as an acid and a base. 9,10-Didehydo-N,N-diethyl-6-methylergoline-8B-carboxamide (LSD) unless tested and determined analytically, it is therefore undetermined and unknown.

 

how can you say it's basic? you claim that since it's an alkaloid, it's basic; how is this so, when basic conditions would stress the carbonyl group at the 8
position, rendering the end product (lsd) inactive? Shulgin mentions this in the commentary for his LSD entry.
If anything, the compound on blotter would be neutral to slightly acidic.

b.t.w. "LSA" is lysergamide (lysergsaureamid),the amide of lysergic acid, i mentioned no pKa is listed.
the pKa for lysergic acid is 3.44, making it pretty acidic; yeah it can behave as a base, but so can benzoic acid, and carbonic acid.

 

ifyou chew on the blotter long enough it will taste like paper thtats all i know otherwise it dosent taste like anything

 

LSD is not bitter. As hillbilly said, sometimes it tastes metallic other times it tastses like nothing at all. When you say bitter i think of chewing up a tylenol.

second of all, LSD is not an acid.

third of all, not all cats from jersey are assholes, and if you decide to judge someone by where they live then you are in fact the asshole.

long live LSD.

 

lol dude, the jersey shit is a joke that easlysunsets takes far too seriously.

 

oh god.

so when blotter hits the tongue, lsd doesn't dissociate into its psychoactive acid form? I guess that metallic taste is just from some sort of preservative

lsd tartrate is a salt, the psychoactive moiety is not. it's an acid.

 

in my experience the taste of a blotter is mainly to do with the potency. Like i once had some ~75mic plain red blotter and that was near enough tasteless, but various different 200 mic blotter ive had, including hoffmans so definately genuine, definately had a taste. and this 400mic liquid drop i had last weekend was the strongest tasting acid ive had, so the potency has a big effect

 

my umbrella, yeah

 

polymer, LSD is a base, not an acid
period.
please cite sources that say it is an acid. i will provide some that proves it is not.

much love.

 

When mescaline is hard enough to get as it is, why the FUCK would someone lace a cheap drug like acid with an expensive drug like mescaline? haha.. prolly just mind fucked urself u were so baked on 1 blotter u didnt evne know then u took 2 and allowed urself to be visualy high! haha

 

Word. He got told.

 

i've never had bitter acid... ever...

 

I've already cited sources and data stating that lysergic acid, the psychoactive (5HT antagonist) precursor to LSD, and what LSD breaks down into when ingested, is an acid...hence, why people informally refer to the drug as "acid"; diethylamine is the non-active basic reagent used to react with it to add two ethyl side groups to stablize the molecule. Mix an acid with a base, and what do you get??

LSD is a salt. prove it's a base.

 

ive seen raw crystals of lsd..

its a amazing site..

polymers correct..

 

LSD is an alkaloid.
is is not?
Alkaloids are basic?
are they not?

Ah, who gives a shit, maybe you are right, personally i dont even care, as long as it workds its magic on me.

 

LSD does not break down into LSA in the body, that has never been mentioned in any study that I have read. If it did, it would be render it inactive at those dose levels. Most LSD taken internally is excreted unchanged in to the urine within 30 minutes. LSA is LSA, LSD is LSD, Limes are Limes, and Oranges are Oranges. Mix an acid with a base, you get a salt. That doesn't really mean anything in terms of acidity or basicity. There are also multiple defintions of what it means to be an acid or base. The actual data on LSD hasn't been published so no one can prove it one way or the other. It's a mystery.

 

http://www.shodor.org/succeed/programs/compchem97/serotonin/
"Lysergic acid is a metabolite of LSD, a hallucinogenic drug. Lysergic acid and similar compounds, collectively known as serotonin antagonists, bond to the same D-receptors used by serotonin. Through this action, lysergic acid blocks serotonin and redirects neural pulses."

not active at those doses? umm, right.

LSD is a salt, its direct precursor, an acid. The latter is why people simply call it "acid" (for lysergic acid...go figure)

the end.

 

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