Dracula

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by AoXoMoXoA420, Apr 22, 2006.

  1. AoXoMoXoA420

    AoXoMoXoA420 Member

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    "You cannot perfect good, but you can perfect evil."

    -Dracula

    thoughts?
     
  2. paulfreespirit

    paulfreespirit Senior Member

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    jeeeeez i need a bite to eat .:eek: fangs anyway
     
  3. pop_terror

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    That's a quote from the real Dracula, right? Not the vampire?

    I think just the opposite. You can't perfect evil, but good is already perfect.

    You can try to be as evil as possible, but then you'll have to always be on the lookout for more evil things to do, and I think there is no end to how bad you can be, so you could never be perfectly evil. More evil than killing a dog is killing a baby is killing two babies is killing three babies is killing four babies etc.
     
  4. mr.morrison

    mr.morrison Senior Member

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    well, he diddnt think he was evil. i did a report on him and he was a devout catholic! crazy stuff
     
  5. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    romantic silliness of simplisticness.
    you can't BE anything
    you can only do or not do
    and however much you may try to do either bennifit or harm
    more then the other
    it is not possible to entirely avoid doing at least some
    of both
    even if only unintentionaly

    but you CAN prioritise endevoring to avoid causing harm and suffering
    and you do have a world with less of it floating arround
    and thereby less of it to injure yourself
    to gain by doing so

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  6. UFEZG

    UFEZG Member

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    But who determines what is evil, anyway? Do we live in a world of epic battles between good guys (Like Road Runner) and bad guys (Wile E. Cyote)? I think not. Merely because someone with a halo tells you that what you do is the good and riotious path, that does not make it so. This is the real world. The good guys can be corrupt, and the "bad guys" are not the only ones who use deception to get ahead.

    People tend to associate good with light, and evil with darkness. And also that the Light will overcome the darkness. But darkness and light are simply opposites. Niether one is stronger than the other. They just counter each other out. That's what I believe, at least.

    Oh, and yeah, Count Dracula was an amazing person. Crazed, yes, but still amazing. From what I remember reading about his life, he was a pretty ruthless person. They just dug up his grave and it was empty, and BAM! Vampires were born.
     
  7. fritz

    fritz Heathen

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    As said in different ways by others..
    Evil is just as much a gray area as good. Perception changes everything. Killing a baby is bad. Killing a baby that's going to die in a worse way(disease) is good. Unless you're in a court of law, that is.
    Jeffery Dahmer, bad dude..To some, misunderstood mentally ill guy. Nicolae Ceausescu, bad dude. To himself, & Elena..He's an angel. The movie Boondock Saints is a good enough example of what I mean.
     
  8. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    I was thinking the same thing, man. But I also agree with UFEZG was saying, about opposites. opposites are equal but counter to each other, right? So perfect good will only cancel out perfect evil, not overcome it. Which leads me to wonder if good and evil really exist anyways. Animals certainly don't have issues with it; they have social codes, true, but I doubt they have moral qualms (the coyote just wanted a meal, man). But then, I'm pretty influenced by Taoism.

    The whole issue really just confuses me, I never have a firm position on it. Depends on what book I read last, haha.
     
  9. pop_terror

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    I wasn't trying to say that I believe evil actually exists. I was just trying to explain in a way that incorporates the popular idea of evil, and to dissuade the notion that it is more real than goodness, instead of just saying "evil doesn't exist".

    I do believe that everything that occurs is absolutely necessary, and when you can't see the most distant repercussions of any event it's kind of hard to just pin it down as evil. So much unforeseen good probably comes from evil events...

    I don't know about opposites, though. We only experience so little of reality, who is to say that dark is necessarily the opposite of light? Maybe they're just different forms of the same thing.

    To me what is good is simply being. So good dominates all. I mean, I would rather experience the Holocaust for eternity than absolutely nothing, so in that way it would be good. And after an eternal "evil" like that I think the pain would eventually be dulled, so that it wouldn't seem evil any more.
     

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