A poster promoting The Da Vinci Code film is to be removed following complaints

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  1. catstevens

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    Caption: The church is in the historic centre of Rome - The film will be premiered at the Cannes Film Festival on 17 May
    A giant poster promoting The Da Vinci Code film is to be removed from a Rome church following complaints.
    The Italian authorities are to take down the advert, which was put on scaffolding covering the Church of St Pantaleo while it underwent renovation.
    The church's rector, Reverend Adolfo Garcia Duran, said the poster advertised "something that is against Christ and against the church".
    The novel claims Christ's bloodline was covered up by the Catholic Church.
    The Interior Ministry, which owns the church and awarded the renovation contract to an external company, said the poster would be removed in the next week.
    The poster, which features a picture of Da Vinci's Mona Lisa and the film's title, was plastered across the church's scaffold-covered facade.

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    Reverend Marco Fibbi, a spokesman for Rome's Vicariate, the Italian capital's church authority, said the poster had been "causing a problem".
    He said: "This movie is not reputed to be particularly appreciated by ecclesiastic circles."
    The Vicariate had written to the Ministry, calling for the poster to be removed.
    The removal of the poster is the latest attack on Dan Brown's work by Catholic Church officials.
    On Good Friday, the preacher for the papal household denounced theories which he said made huge profits in denying the teachings of the Catholic Church.
    Catholic group Opus Dei, which is portrayed as murderous and power-crazed in the book, has asked for a disclaimer to be placed on the film.
    The film, which stars Tom Hanks and Audrey Tautou, is scheduled for release on 19 May.
    The book has sold more than 40million copies worldwide.
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  2. sunshine and pearls

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    I am not Catholic, but I can see where a Catholic church or Catholic groups in the Vatican area would decide that they wanted a giant poster taken off of a church if the movie was set against their belief system. We also realize that the Catholic church is an establishment as well as a religion. If they asked that the poster be taken down from a building other than a church I could see a serious problem. The church and many other people also needs to realize that Dan Brown's work is a work of fiction and that is all it is. He will has said this publicly himself. A good book or a good movie is just that christian or not. I am a christian and still I like a good book even books by Dan Brown I've read his work and enjoyed it especially Angels and Demons...sorry for starting to get off topic just a little bit, but most is relevant.
     
  3. spook13

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    Hey, it's their building...if they don't want it there, they should take it down.
     
  4. catstevens

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    Are they complaining because it is their church?
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  5. Hikaru Zero

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    Honestly, I can see why they'd be upset. It's kind of like sticking "666" on the side of a church, lol.

    However, I think they should also take the book for what it is: a fictional story.
     
  6. Duck

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    The Catholics want to protect thier institution, what is so suprising about that?
     
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    Let's look at it this way:
    A giant poster promoting Muhammad's cartoons is to be removed from a Muslim mosque following complaints.
    A Muslim Sheikh, said the poster advertised "something that is against Muhammad and against Islam".
    The cartoons claim that Muhammad was a terrorist,
    The Interior Ministry, which owns the mosque and awarded the renovation contract to an external company, said the poster would not be removed , it is a Freedom of whatever.
    Muslims attacks
    Another Sheikh, said the cartoons had been "causing a problem".
    He said: "This cartoons show that Muhammad was a bad person"
    An islamic centre had written to the Ministry, calling for the cartoons to don't be reprinted.
    Oh! Muslims should follow the Wesrern values, they should respect the freedom here. Why do they complain!

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    Cat Stevens
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    I would say the same thing in either situation. I can still muslims or catholics wanting to protect their institutions. And as I mentioned it is a holy place of assembly for both religious groups.
     
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  10. Duck

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    Freedom of Press is one thing, but they also have the freedom to not allow that medium on their property​
     
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    Again: Are they complaining because it is their church? or property, read the article again, or read what I highlighted in post #4
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    If it weren’t their church, their complaints would be to no avail. But it is. As for the infamous cartoons, which you have mentioned, they have been placed NOT on the walls of a mosque, but in newspapers; this is a very lame analogy. Anyway, I see no problem in either case. First, it isn’t necessary to be enraged to such a degree by such rubbish as newspapers. And besides, I’d like to recite that:

    Be not deceived; God is not mocked. (Galatians 6:7)
     
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    Again: Are they complaining because it is their church? or property? if so, please quote that, read the article again, or read what I highlighted in post #4

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    Cat Stevens
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  14. eightysixed

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    Wow… This is going to be funny! Should I post here my own again? :)

    But, just in order to avoid your disappointment, I will tell you the obvious thing: Yes, they’re complaining, among other things, because it is their church; this will become evident for everybody who will read the article considering the context. Although, of course, they probably complain about that book without any serious cause. But in any case, your analogy is lame, as I have already said, and I don’t understand why you are so obsessed with this trivial event. According to the article, the problem has already been solved.
     
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    eightysixed
    Quote it
    The answer is in the following quotes
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    should follow the Wesrern values, they should respect the freedom and the different opinions. Why do they complain!!!
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    Cat Stevens
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    It is impossible to quote a context since it isn’t written. But I can explain this for you. Jesus said that the church is the house of prayer. In no way it is the house of advertising! And this is not only a religious problem. I cannot tell you exactly what they think, but if, say, someone decided to place that ad on my home, I’d be against that, especially because I hate all advertisements. But if someone said somewhere something offensive about me, I wouldn’t care at all. There are a plenty of things in the world better than to suffer from stupid insults. Let them sink in their own anger, so to speak :)

    Christianity has been blamed many times for the last centuries. Everybody can blaspheme freely on the web, if they want to. But not in the church, of course.




    Should they? Well, let’s see… Lord, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? Who shall dwell in thy holy hill? […] He that putteth not out his money to usury… (Psalm 15) This is certainly against the Western values, since every bank lives on usury. However, and fortunately, these words have never been deleted from the Bible. I dare to say that real Christianity is always in conflict with capitalist so-called values.



    At the same time, I don’t see how they disrespect freedom in that case. They have their own opinion concerning the book and the movie; why couldn’t they express it? Since they don’t restrict the freedom of speech outside the church now, it’s okay.

    It’s a pity that people of different faiths argue with each other, whereas they have so much in common, in comparison with the secular world.
     
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    If it was so, they will mention it, but they mentioned other reasons!
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    Dude you lost me! when Muslims complained about the cartoons, people said:
    They </FONT>should follow the Wesrern values, they should respect the freedom and the different opinions. Why do they complain!!! yet nobody is saying so to those catholic people?</FONT>​
    By doing the following
    A giant poster promoting The Da Vinci Code film is to be removed from a Rome church following complaints.The church's rector, Reverend Adolfo Garcia Duran, said the poster advertised "something that is against Christ and against the church".The novel claims Christ's bloodline was covered up by the Catholic Church. The Interior Ministry, which owns the church and awarded the renovation contract to an external company, said the poster would be removed in the next week. the Italian capital's church authority,said the poster had been "causing a problem". He said: "This movie is not reputed to be particularly appreciated by ecclesiastic circles."
    It is not a problem it is the freedom Right! I don't think that they are so stupid to choose the church to put the advert there, They knew it was OK or maybe it is their right, and the Catholic didn't mention this! if the Interior Ministry owns the church then maybe they have a law which says the IM can do whatever they want to their properties or to things which they own whether they were sacred or holy or whatever, they aren't stupid to do so to others' properties or to things which they have no right to do so! or to commit an unlegal act!

    Peace and love
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens

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    Okay. Maybe you are right. Why should I defend those cartoonists? I don’t see anything worth in their works, and the very idea looks disgusting.


    Property problems are not my cup of tea, I don’t know for sure. It just seems absolutely weird to me that some commercial organization has the right to put their ads on a Catholic temple. Total spiritual humiliation… In my opinion, exactly this business-like attitude to life creates terrorism.


    Make love, not business, I would say.
     
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    O lord, bless this man, Amen.
    Fill his soul with love and peace
    Amen
    Tons of Peace and love
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
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  20. sunshine and pearls

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    I think the signifigance here is that cat stevens was throwing out a what if... they put the cartoons up on a mosque..not saying they actually did. he was seeing if people would believe that the catholic church should have the same right to protest a debasing of their place of assembly as the Muslim if the same situation should arise. I as a christian would have to respect that neither religious groups should have to deal with the cartoons or the poster on their holy buildings.
    as for following the western way with freedom and different opinions. you know what you really should allow people their freedoms its none of your business if you know your heart and your own beliefs let others have theirs. ( i had to hit that point) I just don't understand not accepting that people have their own systems of belief and there is nothing that is going to change that ever so let everyone have them. I cannot stand religion bashing of any sort.
     
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