Top Ten Mistakes the Bush Administration is repeating from Vietnam

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  1. catstevens

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    by Ivan Eland
    (Tuesday March 28 2006)
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    "The Bush administration is now suffering for its shocking failure to learn the lessons of the tragedy of Vietnam."
    Because the Bush administration, almost from the start, has eschewed any comparison of Iraq with Vietnam, officials apparently never read the history of the nation’s heretofore worst war and have made the same 10 major mistakes:
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    by courtesy & © 2006 Ivan Eland

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  2. rangerdanger

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    I agree 100% with cat stevens.

    Back when jr. started banging the war drums and it seemed that he was going to invade Iraq no matter what (remember saddam offered to step down the weekend before the invasion), I voiced my concerns that the war could well turn into another Vietnam.
    Of course I was villified and called crazy.
    Iraqi is considered the cradle of civilization (and bible historians considered it the location of the legenday Garden Of Eden); no one has thrown out more invaders than the people of that area.
    They're very good at it.
    Here the U.S.-led forces invade with over a hundred thousand men and billions in bombs, bullets, napalm and other weapons to kill the citizens of Iraq.
    And a rag-tag army with i.e.d.'s and martyers (suicide bombers) are able to fight for years.
    And they will, I believe, be victorious.
    Cripes jr. had to send rummy & condi to Bhagdad TWICE to twist arms to get the puppet gov't to pick an interim leader after the "historic" elections (although Iraq had regular elections during saddam's time in office).

    Now you've got death squads and a majority of Iraqi's saying they were better off under saddam.

    This equally unjust illegal and immoral war waged by the west will end the same way the war in Vietnam did--with desperate lacky's clinging onto the struts of the last chopper as America once again tucks its tail between it's legs and gives up/surrenders (although we won't call it that--we'll call it "withdrawal").

    bushco won't mind that much. They still got 90% of what they wanted--billions for the arms dealers, billions for the cia and fbi, fewer civil rights for Americans, people cowering in fear, Iraq looted of it's $$ and antiquities, 100,000 dead.
    What is scarier is what they learned--how they can manipulate the media (and send anthrax to those who aren't buckling under) and mislead/lie to the point where 50% of Americans believe there is saddam and 9/11 link.

    Even if bushco has to leave before stealing Iraq's oil, they won. 100,000 dead but hey they're rich.
     
  3. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    America loses more wars than it wins these days. Iraq will be no exception. And with Iran looming as a much greater threat than saddam ever was, I'm sure we're about to do it once again. But this time there will be NO ROOM for error. And of course the incompetent Bushit administration will surely fuck it up, as they've done everything else.

    Gee I don't know who said Iraq would be like Vietnam.
    Was it THIS GUY below?
     
  4. T.S. Garp

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    Nearly all of the United States' attempts to overthrow governments have had negative outcomes in the long run. Hawaii and Puerto Rico are exceptions; Hawaii was made a state and Puerto Rico has been largely successful, although it has a significant number of citizens who want independence from the U.S. Panama, Cuba, Iran, Iraq--all of our attempts to remove governments to install ones sympathetic to the United States have caused more problems than they have solved.

    I would add that our military is not as experienced at handling insurgents as some other forces are. The military and civilian planners also completely misunderstood the insurgency in Iraq as all outside instigators, instead of the local population resisting occupation. Tactics would certainly be different if you thought you were killing local Iraqis instead of outside agitators. These outside forces are another facet of what has become a remarkably difficult situation to handle.

    You are dead on about not having a more certain exit date. It sends the message that we are not leaving. This is one of the main concerns of many Iraqis; many are happy we have gotten rid of Saddam Hussein, but they will also be happy when our forces leave. Having an uncertain timeframe for when we will leave is just one more recruiting tool for the insurgency.
     
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