LOOK WHAT ARE THEY SAYING ABOUT PROPHET JESUS *RAGE* images

Message from God = God does not work early or mid day or Sunday period.

 

Hehe,
I dont figure a cow sacred,
however there are people that do.
And like I respect it that people believe in a god, I also respect the people that figure the cow as sacred, which is part of their way of life/religion, and I have no intention of obstructing their freedom because I personally think a cow is actually quite a dumb animal... just the same as I think jesus was just a normal guy, if he existed

But my point was, that the existance of a cow has been proved, definnatly
Jesus however, has not been proved as far as I know...
Now I dont believe a cow is sacred like I said, but atleast a cow is something of which you are sure it exists, so in my opinion, I would believe in a cow faster then in jesus if I would have to believe in something, seeing i'm sure a cow exists... can ya follow?

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Have you ever given those who claim to have the proofs that God is existed and Jesus was existed a real chance? isn't our topic anyway. but when you don't give them so, you don't have the right to say so!

I have listened to people... but all arguments were always the same, and a discussion was not possible because I kept getting interrupted when I asked a question which probably could not been answered... which was a very annoying experience, and I keep experiencing it everytime I try to speak with those people,
so yeah I can say I gave people a chance... however they ruined it.

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it is better to discuss why we think so, for example, why do you think islam is a terrorist religion but swearing isn't a discussion! give your opinion, criticise this is your utter right. [A constructive criticism or a reason for it at least not just to anger people who disagree with you]

I dont think islam in it's true form is not a terrorist religion,
however thousands of people lately gave it that status...
I mean, blowing up yourself in public area's and destorying wonderfull buildings and killing hundreds of people at the same time, cant really call that a good religion then.
But the people that do these actions are not truelly islam, they just modified the way of thinking and misinterpreted things in their holy book (Koran, correct?), and I believe that was not by accident but on purpose, all these damn terrorist groups... fuck them,
they are ruining a religion and the status of all people that have that religion.
Idiot minds on this world

Peace and Love!

 

why? because i respect freedom i do not care if somebody draws a cartoon of a prophet. why should you care? i am an environmentalist, i don't get all hissy when somebody draws a cartoon taking the piss out of said stereotyped characters.

i wouldn't ever want to offend somebody, or draw such a cartoon, but i allow others to, because if not, i may as well give up my freedoms, and you don't seem to understand that. and you do not appear to understand that others do not believe your prophet is a prophet. maybe you are wrong.

you can't have love and peace for people if you do not give them their freedom of expression.

 

Liroy​

it is a useful and beneficial animal, milk, meat, etc ​

I'm not talking about things that are existed in this thread. respecting.​

Go to they who can prove so as they claim.​

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Thank you for doing so, I apology instead of them for what happened ^^ please keep asking, I'm sure there are people who will answer your qs and won't ruin the chance, you can use the internet, E-mail them. may Allah bless you dude =) or you know read their books which claims to give proofs or send your questions via E-mail to their websites nobody will interrupt you, OK dear ^^​

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Again: we shouldn't judge a religion according to its followers deeds, because some of its followers don't practice their religion.​

I really don't know which verses they misinterpreted it, everything is clear in my POV.​

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may Allah heal them.​

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Tons of peace and love ^^​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

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A good muslim prays all day Sunday . not on a computer you well be found beheaded by tuesday.

 

brothwood​

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may Allah bless, but why is that! it is THE freedom?​

And those who do so, not for a reasonablr reason just came and said that such and such is a f'ing .... what do you think of such people! they aren't crticizing, there is a diffeence between crticizing and swearing? I think they are civil people, how about you?​

Swearing using such a language is something else. Don't mess things up dude. if you think that this is the freedom, that's up to ya.​

yes I do, I know that others don't believe my beloved dear prophet of Allah you are messing things up as it seems clearly. ​

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*Peace and love*​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

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Last Stand​

which verse says so dear Sheikh =)​

When Did you receive this prophecy dear prophet ​

*Peace and love*​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

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I dont think islam in it's true form is not a terrorist religion

Ya, that part was a mistake, the not should have been removed, but this forum kept returning a database error while I tried to change it so I gave up.
So maybe that changes your way of looking onto it.

The problem with religions is,
that no so called proofs actually proofs that there really is a god.
There is nothing you can see, hear, touch, smell or whatever that you can think off like hmm... that's god!
So whatever people say to me, I wont believe in a god.
And what's written in the bible cant be exactly traced back either, and I cant really call the bible convincing.

Somewhere in the bible it says that God created Adam as how god was, and then he created Eve out of a rib of adam.
Well i'm sorry but, that part made me laugh, how can people believe that stuff?

Actually if I may believe another thread here on this board somewhere,
Satan is actually the saviour of how we are this moment, (or was it lucifer? not sure anymore)
getting us knowledge and stuff while we were not supposed to, and I looked it up and it seemed like the things that were said in that thread were correct... After reading that and checking it out, I'm 100% convinced there is no god, or atleast, not a god as described in the bible...
Not that I am satanic by the way... I believe as much in a devil as in a god as how they are written... so not at all

Peace

 

The problem here I think has arisen out of a difference between the Muslim interpertation of God and the Christian interpretation of God.
To begin with though, being "f'ing metal" is a good thing. It means "Jesus totallly rocks, dude".
Anyhow, Cat stick to your own religion. If your interpretation of God involves him being a hateful, insecure, humorless bully then there you go. But the Christian interpretation of God says that he is perfect in all ways, which inplies that he has a sense of humor, and that he can understand what language and words mean, something that "Allah" apparently is unable to do. If you seriously think that Christians should act like petulant spolied brats over this, or that Jesus would act that way then you've got some serious problems. Read that Gospels, then you'll understand the true Character of God and will know why he would not be upset over this.

 

I believe that it should be pointed out that Jesus is not metal. He's way too gay to be metal.

 

Dear Liroy​

How many so-called proofs you read or listened to, was it a pamphlet or a paragraph! or not the right people who can convince us.​

Google God is existed​

Some links:​

http://www.harunyahya.com/​

http://www.harunyahya.com/c_refutation_atheism.php​

http://www.creationofuniverse.com/​

http://www.creationofuniverse.com/html/bigbang_01.html​

http://www.harunyahya.com/c_refutation_darwinism.php​

http://www.evolutiondeceit.com/​

http://www.evolutiondocumentary.com/​

http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/​

http://www.elnaggarzr.com/Test_fre/English/index_E.asp​

http://www.55a.net/firas/english/​

Try other religions​

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Now leave this part aside, I think you first need to believe in God. God can do everything.​

look for a rebuttal , compare which makes more sense​

BTW: I'm not a Christian and I disagree with many things in the bible.​

*Peace and love*​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

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Jumbo​

they didn't mean so, sarcasm + f'ing​

I'm sure that your certificate is fake.Read that Quraan, then you'll understand the true Character of God.​

Don't mess things up, read the former posts, I meant something else. ​

*Peace and love*​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

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God can do everything?
I think god can do shit.
And if he does exist, he's way too damn lazy to keep this world running in a good way.

And no I dont want to try other religions...
Why the hell should I change my life for something written?
You shouldnt have your life written down in a book!
Bible, koran, all the same only some things are changed.
And that people are so influenced by a book... quite stupid actually imho.
I mean if I read Harry Potter I dont take everything said serious either.
And Harry Potter has more reason to be taken serious then a book of 2000 year old of which you cant proof that it is the truth and if the story's aint changed.
And before you say it, Harry Potter is plain bullshit aswell, I know...

LMFAO!
Those websites.... give me a break dude,
are you so destined to convince me that god exists?
Have you actually seen those websites yourself?
"The fall of darwinism", "there was no stone age", damn dude...
There was no stone age, give me a break, then where the hell do all the things come from they find? Did god create them for fun or something to confuse the people later or something?
He's real good at confusing people and not telling the truth now is he? this god character.
"God" is a traitor to the human race.

 

Liroy​

But he isn't existed how do you think that he can do so?​

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No, God gives you the choice, He told us what is right & good and what is bad and evil, do whatever you want in this life, and according to your deeds you will be punished if not in this life in hereafter. people are committing these evil deeds. people should keep this world running in a good way. God gave them a mind and a brain.​

maybe on of these religions has the truth, proof and the real conception of God. ​

Isn't about written or not, what these written things say and convey, don't forget they were written later, there were prophets, if these written things are true, then it is better to change our lives, if God wants us o follow a particular relgion then it is better to do so, it is temporary anyway, it is better than to live in Hell forever.​

Scientific theories shouldn't be written down in a book! it is better to write it (preservation) - (document)​

These different things create a totally different perspective regarding many things​

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if you mean that because the book is over 2000 year so they shouldn't take it seriously, I think this is totally unreasonable! let's don't take all old books, theories, incidents etc seriously!!!!!!!! let's give up Darwinism it is old too. or everything which is old. And when you say: you cant proof that it is the truth and if the story's aint changed It is illogical totally to say such a thing without or before giving me or anyone a chance to prove!!!!!
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I just wanted to lead you to some good websites, that's it, it is up to you. when some people say: I have never found a proof of God's existence, actually they have to give this issue a real time, a real chance, a real objective search.asking 2 or 3 people or reading one book or 3 doesn't make his claim right!​

Of course! They are in my favorite list =)​

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Read his answer, you can contact him if you have a rebuttal, debate him, give him a chance, maybe he proved it ​

See this is unfair, you just read a title and said that he is not telling the truth , give him a chance.​

*Peace and love*​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

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lol, I guess this conversation is becomming a bit pointless, however...

Why should scientific theorie's not be written down, but the crap from the bible should?
Science has prooved way way more then those so called holy books.

Hehe, are you just being ignorant now?
Ofcourse we shouldnt disagree with all old things,
but the bible HAS NO PROOF AT ALL!!!!!!,
and seeing the fact it's 2000 year old and re-written many times, you cant possibly say it's the truth.
Have you ever sat in a large group of people?
If you whisper something in someone's ear, and you let people pass the message on untill it comes back to you, the message has been changed.
The same probably happened with the bible, but not in 5 minutes, no... in 2000 years time!

I have the feeling that I already wasted far too much time on the nonsence that is called religion

So basically, he created us and then left us on our own.
Very cool action.
And I believe it was not god that gave us a true brain according to the bible,
but it was that goddamn tree that god created for us not to eat from,
which is also a nasty trick in my humble opinion.

Peace

 

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Why should God's verses not be written down?​

Science won't be existed without the God of the science =)​

That's why the bible should be written.​

No, I won't give more details, because all this is off topic, you took off the topic enough, I wrote the goal of this thread, and it seems that you're not a serious in your discussion, so I won't waste my time.​

*Peace and love*​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

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LMFAO,
I'm not serious?
You are the ignorant guy around here,
and let me show you why:

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Why should God's verses not be written down?
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I never even said that, but you did say that scientific things should not be written down.
You keep saying things about giving people a chance to explain,
but you dont give the freedom to other people to try and explain themselves,
because you feel that scientific things should not be written down.
So YOU are the one that is being ignorant here and not really trying to have a discussion.

And by writing something down it still doesnt immediatly say something is true.
So if I write a book and I put this in it: "God does not exist",
then you believe it because it is written down on a piece of paper?
Hmmm....

There is no god of science,
all scientists form one god if you see it as a god...

 

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I never said that you said that!​

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were you blind when I wrote twice or maybe more than once:​

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if you mean that because the book is over 2000 year so they shouldn't take it seriously, I think this is totally unreasonable! let's don't take all old books, theories, incidents etc seriously!!!!!!!! let's give up Darwinism it is old too. or everything which is old. ​

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There is no god of science,[/QUOTE]​

i.e. God is the God of everything not just Muslims or christians. Science scientists etc, that what I believe​

*Peace and love*​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

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Are you blind aswell?
I didnt say anything about the 2000 year old stuff this time,
and are you keep going to ignore my replies to what you keep saying about the 2000 year crap?
I already explained it to you, but you just keep giving the same arguments, while ignoring what I said.
I gave a argument about YOU, not about the book.
You are not 2000 year old are you?
So I dont see why the hell you came back with the 2000 year old stuff? :S
I invite you to read that post again, and in a good way this time.

You are incapable of having a normal discussion,
because you give shit to people for things you do yourself, that's a bit... well let's just stick to the word ignorant shall we, I dont want to attack you...

Peace and Love