Dan Brown's: Almost everything our fathers taught us about Christ is false

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by catstevens, Apr 30, 2006.

  1. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    And many verses of the Bible are fake, accprding to some Christian scholars.
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    Peace and love

    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
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  2. Duck

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    All this Jesus shit happened 2 millenia ago, noone knows what happened for sure, noone knows which scriptures are closest to the truth (my guess would be none are anywhere near it), or why they were chosen.
    As much as I hate this goddamn publicity whore, there is nothing wrong with what he is doing. If he wasn't such a goddamn cockgoblin, he would put a disclaimer, but he doens't have to.
     
  3. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Hi Duck =)
    Alas

    "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall
    ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments
    of the LORD your God which I command you.
    "
    Deuteronomy 4:2
    I am so sorry for this my Lord
    Peace and love

    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
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  4. Duck

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    if you just view it from a religious stand point, you are not being fair to those who don't believe/don't follow well
     
  5. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Duck
    This verse crossed my mind when I read your reply, I wrote it down, that's it.
    Peace and love

    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
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  6. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Dear brother do you think That I agree with dan in everything! I agree with him regarding Jesus' divinity, actually the current Bible is an enough proof.
    Peace and love

    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
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  7. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Again:
    I agree with him regarding Jesus' divinity, I agree with His conclusion, Priory of Sion isn't the only thing which led him to such a conclusion.
    Peace and love

    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
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  8. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Firstly I'd like to thank you for posting the PM history -- I never saved mine. So kudos to you for that.

    When you said this, though, it was false. They weren't responses to off-topic posts. At the time I wrote the PM, there were a total of 5 threads, all with anti-Christian propaganda in them. They were all one of your long and (usually) cleverly crafted posts, designed to tackle arguments or concepts.

    They weren't responses to off-topic posts. They were very topic-specific posts with obvious intent to disrupt the Christianity boards with anti-Christian propaganda.

    And most of it WAS actual propaganda too. I didn't get involved at the discussions, but I read your original post -- there was a lot that was false or wrongly inferred.

    Either way, here is where you said that you were responding to the posts on the Islam boards.

    And this is where it infers that, you find the posting of anti-Islam propaganda to be unacceptable, so you go to the Christianity boards to post anti-Christian propaganda.

    I could care less where HE got the sources from. You were the one who was talking about the validity of his sources, when you haven't even seen them -- let alone know which sources they are. You simply said "Dan has his sources." You used a fiction book to drive your propaganda post. And then said "Dan has his sources" when Dan is the one who wrote the book as FICTIONAL, and discredited everything about his sources.

    Perhaps you're not understanding this right ...

    Dan writes a fiction. By its fictional nature, any information his work is based on is necessarily not a "proof" of any claim, because no claim is being made -- it's only a story.

    Then you make a post using his fiction as a non-fiction, and claiming that "Dan has his sources" insinuating that his sources have some value, when they don't. And you don't know whether or not they have value, because you haven't read them, and you don't even know what those sources are.

    So only teenagers argue? That's quite an ignorant thing for you to say.

    And I find it also very arrogant that you dismiss me as some mere "teenager" instead of actually responding to what I have said.

    Have you ever heard of the fallacy "ad hominem"? It's when you say, there is something objectionable about me (perhaps my age, or perhaps the way you think I'm acting), and therefore what I say must be nonsense or silly, and can't be taken seriously.

    This is a logical fallacy. In MANY cases, it is an admission of defeat without admitting defeat respectfully.

    Furthermore, you did not say anything of the sort on that thread about "I did not want to discuss it from a scientific side." You posted this on the philosophy & religion board, but that includes the agnosticism and atheism boards -- and I am more than welcome to bring my scienctific ideas into a philosophy & religion board. I wouldn't have done so had you posted it somewhere else -- somewhere where scientific opinions are invalid.

    And also -- yeah, I did swear. Your post was filled with fodder. There wasn't a single strong claim in there. Everything was based off of things that you cannot show to be true. And I debunked your entire argument, so you left. You couldn't continue, and you knew it.

    You said there that you "weren't in the mood" to respond, and that you would respond at a later date. But you never did.

    So who is the one running away from the argument.

    I don't care if you dislike my choice in words. Whether or not I use any words, it doesn't make my claims or arguments any less valid.

    But ... let's say it did.

    In that case, you're just a Muslim, what do you know? Muslims all act like terrorists and you can't reason with them.

    That doesn't sound very nice to you, does it cat? I'm sure it doesn't.

    But yet you sit here, in your hypocritical chair, calling me a teenager, saying that what I said was nonsense, when you were the one who said you'd respond to it, and you didn't.

    I have every right to claim victory in that argument, by default. You ran away from it, and now you're simply denying it.

    ... oh yeah, and one more thing.

    You said "learn how to be respected guy then come to me."

    Fuck you.

    You're the one spamming the Christian boards with bullshit. You're the one making false claims in posts, and then running away when you get your ass handed to you. YOU'RE the one who needs to learn some respect. I don't care if you don't respect ME or not -- but you owe a LOT of respect to the others on this forum, which you haven't given -- especially to the agnostics and atheists which you INSULTED in your post on the Philosophy & Religion board, which I took offense to, then debunked, and you ran away from.

    Well, you're a real hard thinker there, aren't you ... ?

    Here cat. You want ME to go out and get respected, like YOU?

    Let's find out what some of the people on this thread really think about you:

    "CatStevens if you have nothing usefull to say, shut up.
    I wonder how old you are... 9 or 10 perhaps?
    You and your stupid age bullshit.
    You certainly dont act like someone mature...
    Nope, you run away if you cant keep your ground in a discussion, how cool.
    "

    "You should really do a little more research on the subject."

    Not to mention all the people on the Christian forums who are PISSED off at you for spamming their boards.

    Cat, tell you what. Why don't you go on a pilgrimage somewhere, and go learn about the nature of respect, before you continue acting the way you do.
     
  9. Liroy

    Liroy Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    I guess this is the right term to use here now: Amen!

    Very good post,
    your arguments rock :)
    It's what I was thinking aswell, just couldnt find the right words, i'm glad you however was able to do so though, right on :)

    Peace! :)
     
  10. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Oh yeah, Cat, two more things.

    #1: I wonder how old you are. At least I have the honesty to post my age on the forums. That's the only reason you can even use that argument. Instead you go around mascarading as "cat stevens," whom you are not. I wonder if the real Cat Stevens would approve of you defiling his name like this. I happen to like some of the real cat's music. But I don't like you, and I don't like fakes.

    #2: Just because I'm 19 doesn't mean I'm inexperienced and silly. Take my father for example. He's 42, dumb as a brick. A couple years ago, I asked him what 6 times 6 was, and he said "43," and then said "24." My grandma (his mother) showed him a sentence that said "Nobody can beat ARE prices," and he couldn't even figure out what was wrong with it.

    And yet, by YOUR idiotic logic, I must be even dumber than that because I'm not even half his age.

    Age has nothing to do with how intelligent one is, nor does it have ANYTHING to do with the relevance or truth of what they are saying.

    You're just a loser hiding behind the strawman of age.
     
  11. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    And...:)





    Peace and love

    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
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  12. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    And ...

    That's pretty much all you can do at this point. Smile and nod your head.

    /fin
     
  13. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    anything else...:)
    Peace and love

    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
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  14. Liroy

    Liroy Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Yeah,
    you are pathetic, behaving this way.
    Muslim from top to toe? Fuck that,
    I hope you are not a example of a true muslim,
    if all muslims would be like this we would have a world full of idiots.
    Why cant you just act normal?
    Is that so hard, is that so much asked?
    You start endless discussions, and in the end, you just run away from them.
    Get a life dude, if you are not willing to discuss, then stop opening those filthy topics about things like some goddamn muslim sluts that get suspended from school for violating the rules with their stupid clothing, if you dont want to talk about them anyway.

    So fuck you with your hypocrite bullshit.
    You will never go to your Allah if you behave like this,
    he/she will not tolerate your crap.
    Will you ignore Allah if you start a discussion with him and he proofs you wrong?
    Man, you are so going to get screwed in your afterlife :p

    Allah akbar my ass, you probably use those words everyday while you shouldnt even, seeing you dont behave like a true muslim that would use those words.

    GROW UP DUDE!

    These are my last words regarding you,
    I wasted enough precious time on it.
    (And according to you cat, time is very important, so stop wasting mine)


    Peace and Love to all,
    - Liroy
     
  15. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    go on...:)
    BTW"; I'm not reading anything [​IMG]
    Peace and love

    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
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  16. Hikaru Zero

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    Of course not! Who would want you to read this?

    These posts aren't written for you, cat. They're written for the people who have to tolerate your load of crap, so they can see just how childish you are in reality.

    Hey everybody! Look at me, I'm cat stevens!:

    "TRAAA LA LA LA LAAAA, I"M NOT LISTENING, traaa la fuckin' laaaa, NINETEEN YEARS OLD HAHA, hip hip HORRAY! Now I don't have to deal with the truth, because it was said by a nineteen year old!! PRAISEBETOALLAHMAYHEBEEXALTED!!!"

    If this is how you act on your own threads (more ignoring the truth -- just without the actual running away part), who cares what you think about what I write. You're not even in the conversation anymore.

    So in the meantime, I'm writing this post to all the people out there who are just a little sick and tired of dealing with you.

    Anyone who is fed up with the way cat stevens spams the forums and then runs away with his tail between his legs, feel free to click the "Report Bad Post" icon (it's on the left, next to the online/offline icon) whenever he makes a new thread, and report to the moderators just how sick you are of his disruptive spam drivel.
     
  17. catstevens

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    :)
    Peace and love

    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
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