Bush and Illuminati?

Comrads,

At late I have become very interested with the happenings of September the 11. I also have the feeling that there is more to Bush than there appears to be. Could this be Illuminati? Please tell me whatever thoughts you may have on Bush and any connection you think he may have to the Illuminati. I value all of your opinions because I am but a worried college student who feels that the end of the world is very close at hand.

Thank you for your time and comments,
Sunray

 

Well, I know a bunch of people that firmly believe that Bush is part of the Illuminati and they provide all this documentation to prove it and that 9/11 was all a big conspiracy that he helped to engineer. Is that true? It may very well be. I can't say for sure one way or the other. Wouldn't surprise me, though.

 

Yes, Bush is a member of the Illuminati, in particular Skull & Bones, which is the American faction of the Illuminati. But he's very low level compared to some people. Basically, Bush is what you might call an Illuminati stooge -- a useful idiot who is beneficial to the Elite's agenda. Bush is not the one running the show, but his handlers whould like us to think he is.

As much power and wealth the Bush crime family possesses, they are still very low on the Illuminati pyramid.

I believe Bush had little to nothing to do with the September 11th attacks. There are factions within the intelligence agencies that wield far more power than the president does. These people don't answer to the president, but the REAL masters -- the ones who control the president. Once you come to understand that Bush (like all presidents) is just a figurehead, this becomes easier to understand.

Was Bush aware of what happened on September 11th? Absolutely!

 

the real 'illuminati' (though i wouldn't call them very illumened or enlightened) are the rand corporation. its representation of, and service to, the mentality that pulls bush's puppet strings, are a matter of public, if not widely publicised record.

the rand corporation, for those who don't know, is a right wing think tank, that is defacto, the closest thing the world wide corporatocracy collectively has, to a brain. (mostly though, it (the corporatocracy) just automaticly persues the circular illogic of little green pieces of paper, without concern for, or even awairness of, anything else. that is what it has rand for. to be it's sole awairness of anything else.)

they are ultimately the jakel masters, who have more influence over coveret opperations, then any elected official in any government. even though it's individual members may not or may see themselves as such. some may realize they are more then others, even there.

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Pressed Rat knows what he's talking about - listen to him.

Themnax, the Rand Corporation is an Illuminati organization, yes, but far from the brains of the operation. It is led, in this vibratory frequency, from the City of London, a 4km square (I think) section of London that is actually it's own sovereign state. They have been running the world from there for hundreds of years, and from Rome and Sumer for thousands of years before that.

And of course, the real brains of the operation are no in this frequency range, or 'dimension'. They reside in the lower 4th dimension, while we reside in the 3rd. That is where the shots are really called from.

 

To compare the IDEA, "Enlightened" and G.W. Bush is a joke.
He's anything BUT that!

 

I got this book at Border's a couple months ago called Rule by Secrecy and it's all about supposed secret organizations in the United States including the Illuminati...it's a pretty good book and it's really freaky to think that there's so many "higher-up" people out there that are pretty much out to get us.

 

Yeah, that's by Jim Marrs. It's a good book for those new to the subject of secret societies and forbidden history. I definitely recommend it to people who are new to the subject and wanting to get a basic overview. It's probably one of the first books I'd ever read regarding the global conspiracy. It can be found at almost any bookstore, as well as the better public libraries, so I encourage people to give it a read if they haven't done so already.

 

I used to be in some what of a secret society
it was called DeMolay
pretty much a lower version of the masons for youth.

 

Yea my father read that book. Its very intresting and sheds light on what has been kept hidden.

 

anything further cadencekid?...i figure everyones kept in the dark until you reach 33rd degree or related heights

 

You only really find out most of what's going on in the "unofficial" levels, above 33.

 

I would have to say that Bush is actually doing the total opposite of the beliefs of the true Illuminati. There was a time in American history when an anti-masonic political party formed just to counter the Masonic ideals that helped build this country. Bush is only a contemporary of that anti-Masonic thinking and look at where its got us.

 

What are you talking about?

 

Once again....



Bush is a member of Skull & Bones, which is a high-ranking masonic order. Every member of S&B is automatically, at the very least, a 33rd degree mason. And keep in mind there are degrees that go well beyond the thirty-third degree. What most people don't know is that the true masonic structure isn't a pyramid, but a circle composed of 360 degrees. True Illuminized Freemasonry, contrary to what many think, doesn't start until around the 40th degree. This is where the saying "life begins at 40" derives from.

Skull & Bones is the American branch of the Bavarian Illuminati. Bush might not seem like the "enlightened GOD" of Illuminism that, say, a person like Albert Pike was, but Bush is just a puppet at a goafer level. The Bush family as a whole, including daddy Bush, are actually very low level Elites, who are merely servants to the real Elite running the show from behind the scenes.

Those who wield the real power almost NEVER exist in the forefront. They exist out of the spotlight, behind the curtain of manufactured news and events as portrayed by the media.

 

Thats right. Check this out. www.bushisantichrist.com The end is already here. www.satansrapture.com

 

The Freemasons were responsible for many of the ideals behind setting the foundations of the United States and its consitution and was heavily involved in the enlightenment movement of the 18th century. Why is it that they now are doing the opposite of what they started to do? Or is it that these low level elites are just so ignorant of the true goals, that they do the opposite of what they are supposed to do. The Illuminati's goal is to have no governments or religions. The current Bush administration is pro-government control and pro-christian.

What is the basis that you think that Skull and Bones is related to Freemasonry? The skull and bones insignia from an old Knights Templar flag. Which was a military branch of the Catholic Church. That sounds more like what the the skull and bones group is doing now. The Catholic Church has always been opposed to Freemasonry.

 

1. Yes. They do whatever they have to do at the moment. At the time, it served them to create a "free" nation where people has justice and the ability to do whatever they wanted within reason. Of course, it has never actually been a free nation, and what freedom there was is now being curtailed as it now serves them to take it away. They see it as nothing more than a means to an end. They created it, now they are removing it.

2. The Illuminati's goal is to have one government and one religion. The Bush administration is covertly preparing the nation to be entered into the North American Union, much like the EU. It may appear to be pro-governmental, and it is. It supports centralization of government.

And most of the members of the Bush administration are practising Satanists, so they are not pro-Christian. They say they are in public, but of course they aren't. Christianity is a means to an end as well. When the time is right, it will be dropped in favor of whatever new religion they have people practising. This is true of all religions.

3. The Catholic Church and Freemasonry are controlled by the same people. Of course they play at seperation and polarity. If all these institutions agreed with each other, people would see a connection. That's pretty obvious. Therefore, they act as if they are completely seperate.

 

And if you beieve that - Hail Eris!

But seriosly, Do you have any hard evidence for what you said. I don't expect you to believe what I say but everything I said can be double checked with historical documents as to their legitimacy. The historical Illuminati was banned from several countries and various members jailed due to their beliefs. Which was anti-government and anti-religion. These countries already had a single all powerful religion and government.

It seems highly unlikely that these different groups could all agree with other on any level. Seems more like choas. People trying to grasp at control but like water, the harder they squeeze, the more it slips through there fingers.

 

dd3stp33,

You are simply pushing the pro-masonic propaganda that's out there, not paying attention to anything but the propaganda. You see masonry the way people have been brainwashed to see it, which is not the way it is at all. First of all, the masonic agenda never had to do with America and the love of country. The goal of the masons has always been to rule the world. America to them is just one of many expendable vehicles that have been employed by the bloodlines since the empires of ancient civilization. This agenda has seen the demise of MANY empires, all of which were its own creation. All of whose fate was created by those that gave birth to it.

Masonic "enlightenment" (illuminism) wasn't about enlightenment for the people, but enlightenment for themselves, who are to use this enlightenment to exercise control over the profane -- the ignorant masses they see as cattle needing to be controlled and dominated.

The masonic agenda has always been about the agenda of those in-the-know -- the Illuminated ones. Not the common people they see as dummies in which they seek to control and dominate. And again, I am not referring to all masons, but rather high-rank Illuminated masons. The lower-level masons are nothing more than pawns who haven't a clue what it's all about. Like you, they fall for the mainstream version of events. They also serve as the perfect front to conceal the true agenda of Freemasonry. What better way to conceal a heinous agenda than to use harmless, well-meaning old men and the guise of charity as a front.

When you say that Bush is pro-US government and pro-religion, it really shows your level of conditioning, as this is nothing more than the movie version of events sold to the masses to mislead and misdirect. Bush (rather, his handlers) has done more to DESTROY this country and its Constitution than any president before him. We are facing debt and a devaluation of the dollar that threatens to topple the entire global economy. Add this to a war that has costed billions and billions of dollars, with no end in sight. This will ruin the country. I know, because this is their plan. If you are falling for the lie that Bush is a God-fearing patriot and loves his country, it's understandable to see why you fail to understand what masonry is really all about. Like most people, you have spent your entire life swallowing what has been spoonfed to you by the establishment.

As far as Bush and his religion, this is another front sold to the masses, which both sides of the controlled Left/Right paradigm are falling for. Skull & Bones and Bohemian Grove, which Bush and his daddy are both members of, are not Christian men's societies. These secret societies are dedicated to Molech worship, blood atonement, mock human sacrifice and jerking off naked in a coffin. Moreso, they are dedicated to the complete overthrow of western civilization. They seek to remove individuality from humans and create a "new man" who will "love his servitude," as government propagandist, MI6/RIIA minion Aldous Huxley said.

The Catholic Church and Freemasonry are one in the same. The Catholic Church IS freemasonic in origin, and Jesuits such as Peter Hans Kolvenbach are perhaps the highest ranking masons in the world according to some researchers. ALL ROADS LEAD BACK TO ROME. The idea that the Catholic Church was against masonry was much like everything else we read in most books and see on TV. It was all just a show. A front. A movie version of events.

If you were to compare Catholic symbolism with masonic symbolism, you would see they are one in the same. ALL of the major religions and their symbolism derives from one origin, which is that of the Babylonian sun religions. You must understand that throughout history the Elite have had their own religion that has been concealed from the public, while the masses have been given their manufactured religions to follow, which have served both as a means of divide and control, and a way for the Elite to conceal their own secret religion.

If people really knew their history, they would know that the Catholic Church literally OWNS America. That is the Pope, or rather the people pulling his strings and controlling him. The Pope, like Bush, is also just a puppet. It's all smoke and mirrors, as they say.

As far as your questions about Skull & Bones' links to Freemasonry, either you know nothing about Skull & Bones, or you know nothing about Freemasonry. Skull & Bones was created by masons; its symbolism is masonic, its rituals are masonic. It is masonic. It's an illuminized, freemasonic secret society.